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Untrustable posted:McCandless? He ate the wrong plant and died 8/10ths of a mile from a way out of his situation. He lived in a bus. lol that this dumbass inspired a generation of worship
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Snow Cone Capone posted:lol that this dumbass inspired a generation of worship Way too many people read Into The Wild and thought "yeah, that's me, fiercely independent with an insatiable wanderlust." They always gloss over the fact that he suffered a painful and unnecessary death because he didn't know what he was doing. "I will live simply off the land, as one does, in the 1800s. I know nothing of farming nor hunting tho". He died from hubris. It's ignorant to think that you can just go into the Alaskan wilderness and live off the land with no training or gear or anything other than a journal and the contents of your bacpack. I feel bad for the dude, but he shouldn't be inspiring anyone.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:37
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Untrustable posted:Way too many people read Into The Wild and thought "yeah, that's me, fiercely independent with an insatiable wanderlust." They always gloss over the fact that he suffered a painful and unnecessary death because he didn't know what he was doing. "I will live simply off the land, as one does, in the 1800s. I know nothing of farming nor hunting tho". yeah that's why it's hilarious that he inspired a generation of worship It's not like the books or movie about him made any effort to portray the dude as a dumbass instead of a moody romantic.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:41
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Untrustable posted:McCandless? He ate the wrong plant and died 8/10ths of a mile from a way out of his situation. He lived in a bus. Iirc, the berries McCandless was using as a staple foodsource had an alkaline that hosed his metabolism. So he didn't like, chomp into a berry and start making GBS threads blood. He just slowly stopped being able to gain nourishment from food, developed fatigue, etc. Amd as he started getting sicker, he ate more and more berries, so...  Tradwell was with his girlfriend(?) and basically woke up to her getting attacked and used his cooking pans to try and fight it off. In Verhoven's Grizzly Man they recover the audio of the attack and play it for a confidant of theirs. It's likely that the bearkiller wasn't one of his buddies but an extremely malnourished bear that had gone way out of its usual haunts to try and, like, not starve.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:45
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Untrustable posted:Way too many people read Into The Wild and thought "yeah, that's me, fiercely independent with an insatiable wanderlust." They always gloss over the fact that he suffered a painful and unnecessary death because he didn't know what he was doing. "I will live simply off the land, as one does, in the 1800s. I know nothing of farming nor hunting tho". If you look at the details of his life it seems almost certain McCandless had some serious mental issues and just abandoned normal life for no valid reason, even refusing an offer to supply him with provisions for his excursion.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:46
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FilthyImp posted:Just to add to the Darwin Awards here: If Paul Verhoeven made a grizzly movie that would be loving sick. It was Herzog’s film, and Werner is the one who listened to the death audio.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:49
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El_Elegante posted:If Paul Verhoeven made a grizzly movie that would be loving sick. Werner Herzog owns and I'll be sad when he dies, but I'll be eagerly awaiting his funeral when the tortured, anguished spirits of everyone he's ever worked with/on fly out of his body like some Ghostbusters poo poo
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Apr 29, 2019 17:51
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FilthyImp posted:Just to add to the Darwin Awards here: The latest theory is an amino acid in wild potato seeds I think.
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Apr 29, 2019 18:01
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El_Elegante posted:If Paul Verhoeven made a grizzly movie that would be loving sick. Hmm.. Herzog's RoboCop? 
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Apr 29, 2019 18:04
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Aphrodite posted:The latest theory is an amino acid in wild potato seeds I think. Yeah I phrased it as "wrong plant" because it's still up for debate why McCandless died. Some say rabbit starvation, some think berries, current theory is paralysis of the legs from bad seeds. No doubt he was severely mentally ill though.
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Apr 29, 2019 18:08
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Untrustable posted:Yeah I phrased it as "wrong plant" because it's still up for debate why McCandless died. Some say rabbit starvation, some think berries, current theory is paralysis of the legs from bad seeds. No doubt he was severely mentally ill though. You can be severely mentally ill and also a dumbass though, they're not mutually exclusive
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Apr 29, 2019 18:10
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*points two thumbs at self*
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El_Elegante posted:*points two thumbs at self*
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Apr 29, 2019 18:13
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Werner Herzog owns and I'll be sad when he dies, but I'll be eagerly awaiting his funeral when the tortured, anguished spirits of everyone he's ever worked with/on fly out of his body like some Ghostbusters poo poo i don't think herzog himself is miserable to work with, he just worked with klaus kinski who might have given him that rep by proxy if kinski had been murdered then his killer would've gotten a charity deduction, not a prison sentence
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Apr 29, 2019 18:16
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It's less I think he's a miserable person and more I think he's like a black hole for other peoples' miseries
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Apr 29, 2019 18:32
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I think Treadwell was also basically suicidal. If i remember right, his general outlook was that he would eventually be killed and eaten by a bear, and that was ok. Really sucks that he brought a new girlfriend along at the same time he decided to stay later in the season than he normally did. Poor girl probably didnt know her BF considered "Bear Scat" to be a step up from human existence.
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Apr 29, 2019 19:04
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Apr 29, 2019 19:05
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herzog is on a personal poo poo list for pointlessly boiling a bunch of rats to death, in a failed effort to dye them. tho he did at least give a voice to the tragedy of insane penguins.
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Apr 29, 2019 19:12
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Was it a goon who was arrested for sexually abusing a minor girl in his care and who delivered some insane screed to a judge about how he was only trying to sexually liberate her (as any good feminist would), or was that just a wild reddit post that got shared everywhere?
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Herzog's Dark Glow of the Mountains is one of the best mountaineering documentaries ever made. (There's almost no climbing in it, as you'd guess.) It also has a scene where Herzog practically forces his subject to relive their most painful memories during ascent while Herzog just sits there and listens. The man is a genius vampire who happens to feed on human misery. e: the post above this jesus what now barbecue at the folks has a new favorite as of 19:35 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Apr 29, 2019 19:33
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Nuns with Guns posted:Was it a goon who was arrested for sexually abusing a minor girl in his care and who delivered some insane screed to a judge about how he was only trying to sexually liberate her (as any good feminist would), or was that just a wild reddit post that got shared everywhere? Yeah that was a goon but I don't remember who it was. It wasn't that long ago though. IIRC he basically said 'hey im not going to be on the forums for a while cause of jail' and somehow it came out that's who he was. He was some sort of graphics artist too maybe??
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Apr 29, 2019 20:08
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elise the great posted:How the gently caress is the FBI kicking down Lowtax’s door because of Avshalom fanfic but Moot gets to run a whole-rear end pedophilia/murder/white nationalist empire without a peep
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Apr 29, 2019 20:22
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Untrustable posted:Way too many people read Into The Wild and thought "yeah, that's me, fiercely independent with an insatiable wanderlust." They always gloss over the fact that he suffered a painful and unnecessary death because he didn't know what he was doing. "I will live simply off the land, as one does, in the 1800s. I know nothing of farming nor hunting tho". How? I read into the wild and ita very explicit about how loving stupid the dude was
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Apr 29, 2019 20:56
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Nuns with Guns posted:Was it a goon who was arrested for sexually abusing a minor girl in his care and who delivered some insane screed to a judge about how he was only trying to sexually liberate her (as any good feminist would), or was that just a wild reddit post that got shared everywhere? It's sad but this probably describes multiple goons But I think you mean this guy http://www.newsminer.com/news/local...75f68c9db7.html His 'concept art' was for star citizen Also not a goon from what I can tell
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Apr 29, 2019 21:09
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barbecue at the folks posted:Herzog's Dark Glow of the Mountains is one of the best mountaineering documentaries ever made. (There's almost no climbing in it, as you'd guess.) It also has a scene where Herzog practically forces his subject to relive their most painful memories during ascent while Herzog just sits there and listens. The man is a genius vampire who happens to feed on human misery. Herzog did that same trick in "Little Dieter Needs to Fly." He had a former Vietnam POW give a tour of his capture, imprisonment, and escape. It's amazing.
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Apr 29, 2019 21:21
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Accordion Man posted:No, the best part was his route would have taken him through the deserts of I think it was Nevada where there isn't any kind of civilization for hundreds of miles. You know a region where people have gotten stranded and died even when they had a car. He was going to hike through Nevada, Arizona, and West Texas deserts, and I believe he was starting his trip in spring or early summer. It would have been hundreds and hundreds of miles through near-featureless desert. West Texas in particular is famous for being boring just to drive through.
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Apr 29, 2019 21:41
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fool_of_sound posted:Yeah that was a goon but I don't remember who it was. It wasn't that long ago though. IIRC he basically said 'hey im not going to be on the forums for a while cause of jail' and somehow it came out that's who he was. He was some sort of graphics artist too maybe?? Blue On Blue posted:It's sad but this probably describes multiple goons Oh, yep, that's the guy. Thanks, narrowing it down to Star Citizen weirdos made it easier to search for details. He did have an account here too: https://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=123673 God his quotes from his trial are even more unreal than I remember quote:FAIRBANKS — A 37-year-old Fairbanks man who was sentenced Monday to 45 years in prison for sexually abusing a young girl under his care told the judge he was a “feminist and pacifist” who had “earnest conversations” with the girl “about gender equality and how she should be able to expect the same respect as any man.”
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I cannot imagine what his psych eval would have said. Jesus Christ.
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Apr 30, 2019 02:11
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El_Elegante posted:I cannot imagine what his psych eval would have said. Jesus Christ. Yeah I think I'd be tempted to suggest crucifixion too
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Apr 30, 2019 02:37
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To continue the trend: the guy was also really into Star Trek and did ship designs for that too
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Apr 30, 2019 02:45
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theflyingorc posted:He was going to hike through Nevada, Arizona, and West Texas deserts, and I believe he was starting his trip in spring or early summer. Having grown up there its boring af to drive through, but spending a day there is anything but, between the coyote/wild dog packs, snakes, scorpions, sun that will kill you in a couple hours if you don't know how to handle it, and I am probably forgetting a few things because its been a few decades. Also, my favorite part of the Muerte Death Hike for Mental Health Awareness is the attempt to drive across the country that followed it, where his BMW broke down halfway through Death Valley. And then the fact that the whole goal of the trip was to help take over his father's business in Florida. Turned out to be a stump removal company. This kids gonna do great at that.
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Apr 30, 2019 02:46
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Werner got shot while filming an interview and dismissed it, continuing to talk as if he just scratched an itch
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Apr 30, 2019 02:51
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Untrustable posted:Yeah I phrased it as "wrong plant" because it's still up for debate why McCandless died. Some say rabbit starvation, some think berries, current theory is paralysis of the legs from bad seeds. No doubt he was severely mentally ill though. Dude died because he was a mentally ill idiot who wandered into the wilderness with no supplies or preparation. The exact mechanism of his death is largely irrelevant because he was essentially doomed the moment he left civilization.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Werner got shot while filming an interview and dismissed it, continuing to talk as if he just scratched an itch i have this in my favorites to show people bc i cant believe how casually he brushes it off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrRNM9cMBDk&t=45s e: god i forgot werner wears floral boxers. very chic
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Apr 30, 2019 03:34
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I thought you meant from a real gun. Still, he no sells getting an airsoft to the balls pretty well.
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El_Elegante posted:It was Herzog’s film, and Werner is the one who listened to the death audio.
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Apr 30, 2019 04:02
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Ghostlight posted:although he does do it in front of the guy's ex-girlfriend to whom the audio tape belongs and then is just like "you should never listen to this" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INov9gQ2aUA Also resulting in low-key one of my favorite internet things.
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Apr 30, 2019 04:09
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There was also the time Werner saved Joaquin Phoenix from a car crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDcnLfLaFiY
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Captain Hygiene posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INov9gQ2aUA
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