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kiimo posted:edit: also he's a loving Desean Jackson clone for every desean jackson there's 100 little nobodies
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Well I trust the Chiefs scouting department when it comes to on the field wide receivers. The tape on Hardman is impressive.
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Apr 27, 2019 03:49
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The Chiefs defense is coming together it feels like
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meh. if his name was rapey mcstabsman i'd be more worried that he was gonna be real good for the chiefs
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Apr 27, 2019 03:51
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The next few years are gonna be fun hearing about this.
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Apr 27, 2019 03:55
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kiimo posted:This DT looks like Dontari Poe if Dontari Poe instead of a bad back had badass backflips He's a lot smaller than Poe (which isn't saying he's small, just that Poe was ridiculously huge). Certainly appears athletic though.
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well when you follow up jovan belcher with kareem hunt and tyreek hill it looks less like a coincidence and more like a commitment to excrement.
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Apr 27, 2019 03:57
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Kareem didn't have any character issues before the draft. Neither did Belcher. Fair enough on Hill.
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Mecole Hardman seems to be a bad pick, a lot of people have him as a 4th rounder. I guess we picked him because he’s somewhere between DAT and Hill and fits the system but ehh I really like both defenders taken so far.
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Mecole Hardman seems to be a bad pick, a lot of people have him as a 4th rounder. I guess we picked him because he’s somewhere between DAT and Hill and fits the system but ehh He's supposed to have a high ceiling I guess. He seems like the type of guy Veach falls in love with because he sees the possibility and ignores that he might not get there.
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Apr 27, 2019 04:20
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You're crazy. He's only played WR for two years. He looks positively badass and confident in his routes. He's fast and effective. They had their choice of wide receivers, traded up and passed up a ton of guys to take him. The SEC guys I know are texting me saying he's a beast. The Chiefs ignored his teammate, Calvin Ridley's brother. They know what they're doing. He seriously plays like DeSean Jackson. edit: Also Parris is apparently not great at tracking the deep ball I'm seeing. I mean maybe he flops but he's no Chris Conley.
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Apr 27, 2019 04:23
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I mean I did say he had a high ceiling which is certainly better than the other way around. He's just not there yet and, well, we've all seen those guys not pan out over the years. He is supposed to be the best or one of the best returners available this year so they'll get production out of him there at the least.
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Sorry was responding to Shoah, not you GB
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See I'm actually all right with that. He's competing for the backup position and they got him in the second round and not early. Especially since they got Risner I think it's okay to take a stab in the dark to find a good player. Granted there were a lot of really good players still available too as for mecole hardman, here are his athletic measurements https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1121945658011860992
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DeSean Jackson: 5-10 175 V.Poor
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kiimo posted:DeSean Jackson: Don't pay attention to the size portion, obviously. I myself love me some small receivers. That's really just to include that information but it's taken as a given that there are more than one type of receiver
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For what it's worth, according to Veach they had to trade up for Hardman https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1121986592380469248 I think he said the same thing about Speaks last year and I didn't buy it then.
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Apr 27, 2019 05:18
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Draft every WR faster than 4.35.
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Play posted:See I'm actually all right with that. He's competing for the backup position and they got him in the second round and not early. Oh I think it’s fine. My point was that it was funny that Elway went out of his way — in a tweet — to reassure Flacco that he was the starter.
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Grittybeard posted:For what it's worth, according to Veach they had to trade up for Hardman catfished
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I was worried about taking Lock with the 10th pick (less so after the Flacco trade) but at 42, it's fine. He'll probably suck but that's all you'll ever get in the second round. It'll help if they can manage to keep the same coordinator for more than a year
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https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/...hp%3Ft%3D322610 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48ZOC8w9B5I https://twitter.com/TrainIsland/sta...2610%26page%3D2 https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/sta...2610%26page%3D2 https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan...2610%26page%3D3 quote:Overall, Thompson is a Tarik Cohen-type of prospect: undersized with minimal power, but his start-stop athleticism and instant juice make him a dangerous player in a complementary role. Instant weapon for the Chiefs offense. kiimo fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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Apr 27, 2019 22:12
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I love the Juan Thornhill and Derwin Thompson picks, like the Khalen Saunders pick, and wish we had grabbed a better WR or CB than the ones we got. Also wish we had taken some kinda TE, there’s nothing behind Kelce. The defense adds of Frank Clark, Thornhill and Saunders are really big.
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SHOAH NUFF posted:I love the Juan Thornhill and Derwin Thompson picks, like the Khalen Saunders pick, and wish we had grabbed a better WR or CB than the ones we got. Also wish we had taken some kinda TE, there’s nothing behind Kelce. The defense adds of Frank Clark, Thornhill and Saunders are really big. Just notified you drafted Thornhill at 63 in the goon draft too. Serendipity. I will take this to mean he will be a perennial all pro.
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I like the picks the Chiefs made, but I thought they really had to come out of this draft with a quality corner. Waiting till the end of the 6th round is a real disappointment. It's going to be a major problem for this team yet again.
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LiquidFriend posted:I like the picks the Chiefs made, but I thought they really had to come out of this draft with a quality corner. Waiting till the end of the 6th round is a real disappointment. What was it 7 corners drafted before the Chiefs picked. Try to get Patrick Peterson maybe
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kiimo posted:What was it 7 corners drafted before the Chiefs picked. Try to get Patrick Peterson maybe The corner that got drafted isn't too impressive either. Short and a little slow https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1122235729617268748 The Khalen Saunders pick is great though. Check him out on tape, a 300 pounder with a solid middle section who bounces around like 200 lb db and does backflips. The kind of movement you don't often see in guys that look like him, and he plays super low to the ground. He was great at the senior bowl against future NFL talent and looks like the kind of one gap penetrating DT which the Chiefs love Darwin Thompson looks like a really fun player and a change of pace back and Juan Thornhill at FS looks real promising as well. 3/5 with the caveat that they didn't manage to get any of the really top guys
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Frank Clark is the good guy we can consider the first rounder. I love every pick but Felton
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Khalen Saunders is faster and more agile than Breeland Speaks lol
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I absolutely hated the Speaks pick and they traded up to get him when there were a number of decent corners available. I'm still waiting to be proven wrong, and now he has tons of quality competition so if he doesn't win the starting role this season I'm already in favor of flushing him. He's slow, unathletic and straight up fat. I would say give him time in the new position and scheme, same as KPass but neither look promising at all.
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Days later and I still have no idea how they could reason creating the worst CB group by trading off Marcus Peters and follow it up by practically not addressing the position beyond some scrap heap pick ups.
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It’s not that bad. Fuller, Breeland and Ward are all average to above average. We just have no clear cut very good to elite CB1 and if any of those 3 guys get injured there’s no one behind them trustworthy. I’m enjoying looking at the new front seven. Should be a fun group.
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There were 8 corners taken in front of the Chiefs so if given the option of taking the 9th best corner or a replacement for Hill I'd rather they did that. They should trade for another corner though and I imagine they will. It's not like we have a cap problem anymore. edit: also Thornhill played two years of corner and lead the NCAA in pass break ups and ints I heard, although I didn't research this stat. He can help. kiimo fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Carr handing the ball off to Josh Jacobs and throwing the ball to Antonio Brown/Tyrell Williams/Hunter Renfrow is a much more exciting group than they started with last year. Hopefully Kolton is moved to RT so Trent Brown can slide into the LT spot. Gabe Jackson may slip back over to LG to replace Osemele and Goode will slide into RG Defense wise, the addition of Ferrell will help Hurst the rest of the line get pressure, the addition of Lamarcus Joyner and Jon Abrams and a new CB2 will hopefully give the d line another split second to get to the QB. The outright weakness is obviously linebacker (still, after ten years), but hopefully Brandon Marshall and Vontaze Burfict will ahahahaha Blitz of 404 Error fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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I find it annoying that the Raiders are being less funny lately and adding quality players. I'd be a lot more annoyed if they added Good Josh Allen though.
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kiimo posted:I find it annoying that the Raiders are being less funny lately and adding quality players. While Josh Allen may have a higher ceiling than Ferrell, he would have to switch to 4-3 and learn a shitload more pass rush moves than just speeding past the OT Ferrell steps in as a dude with something like 50 starts at DE with a full compliment of pass rush moves. I'm not saying that Josh Allen will bust, but on the Raiders Josh Allen probably bust. I think ultimately Ferrells ceiling is something like a Chandler Jones or Robert Quinn which would be awesome. I think his floor is much higher than Allen's, which is good because I'm so sick of failed high ceiling Raiders
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