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Reveilled posted:I think whether subtle is worth it depends a whole lot on how much your DM actually follows RAW and RAI on casting spells non-subtly. If your DM takes the view that, say, the Verbal component of a spell like Suggestion is just the suggestion itself (i.e. it works like a Jedi Mind Trick), or that the Somantic component of a spell can be hidden via sleight of hand then subtle spell is less worth it. Even with the latter, it's better to not have to roll, than to have to roll.
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I thought Unearthed Arcana was supposed to be a once a month thing but I just checked and there's only been 3 since November?
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Apr 29, 2019 21:18
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Mr. Humalong posted:I thought Unearthed Arcana was supposed to be a once a month thing but I just checked and there's only been 3 since November? They changed their minds about that after getting into a time crunch with the Artificer roll-out. Now they're just doing them when they're ready.
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Apr 29, 2019 21:32
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Apr 29, 2019 21:35
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They’re all busy not paying attention to AL while it becomes even more convoluted for Season 9.
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Apr 29, 2019 21:39
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They've got a number of books that came out and are coming out too so yeah they're probably prioritizing those.
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Apr 29, 2019 22:14
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You'd think with all the hiding Mearls is doing from social media he could create some content.
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Apr 29, 2019 22:19
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Mr. Humalong posted:You'd think with all the hiding Mearls is doing from social media he could create some content. Mike Mearls was not put in that job to sully himself with work, he is there to be honored.
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Apr 29, 2019 22:20
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Mr. Humalong posted:You'd think with all the hiding Mearls is doing from social media he could create some content. What is supposed to be happening now?
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Apr 29, 2019 22:29
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What's a good price for a griffon in 5e? I've found a questionable source saying the broom of flight is 10kGP and that's something I'd say is objectively better than a griffon because it doesn't tire and has no upkeep costs. I'm ruling that the griffons themselves can't be used in combat and are just there to be a mount that can traverse obstacles in overland flight. I'm not having the griffon as a combat trained unit that delivers beak and claw attacks. Ultimately I'll fudge the price or any alternate means of attainment for the fun's sake but I guess for a ballpark I just want to ask the thread what a good price would be. That is, if we're putting rule zero aside and if we were to balance it with other extant items and services in 5e.
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Apr 29, 2019 22:46
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Azza Bamboo posted:What's a good price for a griffon in 5e? Personally I'd probably put the price at 'success on a session or so of side questing', rather than money. Griffons don't seem, to me at least, like the kind of things that are commonly available to buy, but rather the kind of things you need to find a specialist for or capture from the wild.
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Apr 29, 2019 22:49
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I already have the idea for a sidequest in mind but the quest giver is a breeder/trainer who sells. Also later on if a trained griffon has a ballpark price it could be a kind of optional-quest success mode in the middle of combat: if you can somehow capture their griffon mounts as a result of this fight, you get [money] for each one sent back.
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Apr 29, 2019 22:56
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Azza Bamboo posted:I already have the idea for a sidequest in mind but the quest giver is a breeder/trainer who sells. Also later on if a trained griffon has a ballpark price it could be a kind of optional-quest failure mode in the middle of combat: if you can win this fight without killing their griffon mounts you get [money] for each one saved. If they actually want the mounts, why wouldn't they keep the captured ones for themselves? The monetary part is too campaign dependent to give good advice, IMO. 5E has terrible guidelines for wealth and purchasing of non-basic items. A griffin should probably be ten times as expensive as a trained warhorse, in my mind. But some games have level ten characters with a thousand gp to their names, and some have a hundred thousand.
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By "later on" I meant "after everyone has griffons". Your question does raise a point. I've GMed for this group before and once or twice out of many times they've surprised me with "this loot you gave us sucks, we're going to sell it at the next opportunity".
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Apr 29, 2019 23:20
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RAW, Broom of Flying is worth 500gp. Tops. It's an Uncommon item. Which yeah is pretty fucky for what it is, but I suppose it also doesn't have a seat belt.
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So, like a belt of giant strength clearly makes you feel strong, and boots of elvenkind would make you feel light on your feet. But how would a character feel with a clockwork amulet? Once a day, you feel totally and completely average. You have a normal one.
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Apr 29, 2019 23:38
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Azza Bamboo posted:By "later on" I meant "after everyone has griffons". Selling stuff like that can be totally fine if they're into that. The new AL also has an item crafting system where you're rewarded with redeemable loot points if they're into that sort of thing.
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Apr 29, 2019 23:38
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Josef bugman posted:What is supposed to be happening now? Mearls has pretty much vanished from the internet. Has not been mentioned in months by WotC
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I think you will find that Mr. Mearls is still listed as an important guest at D&D Live Presents The Descent! live on Twitch.TV on May 17th: http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/events/dndlive-groups-guests
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Apr 29, 2019 23:51
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Toshimo posted:I think you will find that Mr. Mearls is still listed as an important guest at D&D Live Presents The Descent! live on Twitch.TV on May 17th: http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/events/dndlive-groups-guests Ah then that is the first mention I have seen of him in a long while. Anyway the Descent looks cool, probably going to announce a Nine Hells book there, which I have always found interesting. Fiendish Codex II was the first D&D game book I ever read.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Mearls has pretty much vanished from the internet. Has not been mentioned in months by WotC That's odd. I mean it's also odd that someone just "not being on the internet" is considered odd too ofc.
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Josef bugman posted:That's odd. I mean it's also odd that someone just "not being on the internet" is considered odd too ofc. Just to be clear, when you are a public face of a brand, and tweet, facebook, etc. as part of the brand and you go abruptly radio silent for months and get pulled from various podcasts/streams, everybody knows exactly how turbofucked you are. It's not just "oh, I haven't seen this guy around so much".
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Toshimo posted:Just to be clear, when you are a public face of a brand, and tweet, facebook, etc. as part of the brand and you go abruptly radio silent for months and get pulled from various podcasts/streams, everybody knows exactly how turbofucked you are. It's not just "oh, I haven't seen this guy around so much". I mean, maybe he's just having a break? I know it's not likely but it's not that odd surely. Am I so old that I don't know how marketing works?
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OK, theorycrafting time. I have a character concept that I may not get to play for a while, but I'm trying to work out the best class/race/archetype combination to fit the characterization. Basically, Rogers says things and behaves in ways that match Mr. Rogers, but makes them as creepy as possible. (Imagine Peter Lorre asking if you would be his neighbor.) That doesn't necessarily mean he's an assassin or a serial killer or a murderhobo (beyond the while "is a PC" thing), just that his affect is amazingly skin-crawling. Bard seemed like an obvious choice, especially given Mr. Rogers' musical talents, and inspiring people creepily would be fun. But the only archetype that really seems apt for the concept is College of Whispers, which is meh. I can probably rule out barbarian and druid, but there's still a bunch of other possibilities. (I admit to considering Warlock-Great Old One so he can be creepy telepathically.) Any suggestions?
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Narsham posted:OK, theorycrafting time. I have a character concept that I may not get to play for a while, but I'm trying to work out the best class/race/archetype combination to fit the characterization. Basically, Rogers says things and behaves in ways that match Mr. Rogers, but makes them as creepy as possible. (Imagine Peter Lorre asking if you would be his neighbor.) That doesn't necessarily mean he's an assassin or a serial killer or a murderhobo (beyond the while "is a PC" thing), just that his affect is amazingly skin-crawling. What you're describing is a demeanor, so literally any character class and build works.
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I think it depends whether you want his demeanor to be played as a joke, truly harboring some dark intention, or just awkward. Your description made me think of the way Lizardmen are described as "alien" in their behavior. So he could be a genuinely nice guy but just, really bad at conveying it.
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There are a few characters you could probably pull from to get "naturally unsettling" from. The fire genasi from Campaign 1 of Critical Role freaked the hell out of the players, to the point where a fairly benign request from him made them think they were dropping a nuke into the setting's holy city.
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Josef bugman posted:I mean, maybe he's just having a break? I know it's not likely but it's not that odd surely. You're so old that you don't know how marketing works, yes.
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Narsham posted:OK, theorycrafting time. I have a character concept that I may not get to play for a while, but I'm trying to work out the best class/race/archetype combination to fit the characterization. Basically, Rogers says things and behaves in ways that match Mr. Rogers, but makes them as creepy as possible. (Imagine Peter Lorre asking if you would be his neighbor.) That doesn't necessarily mean he's an assassin or a serial killer or a murderhobo (beyond the while "is a PC" thing), just that his affect is amazingly skin-crawling. I’d go with Cleric, since it leans into the “helping people” part but you could make the appearance of his spiritual weapons and/or spirit guardians incredibly off-putting or unsettling. Hell, his spirit guardians could legit just look like the puppets from the Land of Make Believe and they’d be creepy all on their own.
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All Brooms of Flying should be sentient and act like the magic carpet from Aladdin and constantly troll the players.
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Narsham posted:OK, theorycrafting time. I have a character concept that I may not get to play for a while, but I'm trying to work out the best class/race/archetype combination to fit the characterization. Basically, Rogers says things and behaves in ways that match Mr. Rogers, but makes them as creepy as possible. (Imagine Peter Lorre asking if you would be his neighbor.) That doesn't necessarily mean he's an assassin or a serial killer or a murderhobo (beyond the while "is a PC" thing), just that his affect is amazingly skin-crawling. "Creepy Mr. Rogers" is exactly the bard in my party's "rival party of douchebag adventurers who take jobs at cross-purposes with us and sometimes steal credit for things we did." But it's all good, we killed or neutralized most of them in the preamble to the final BBEG fight of our campaign last week. Man gently caress those guys. And kudos to my DM's ability to do such a contemptuous and unsettling voice.
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Arthil posted:You're so old that you don't know how marketing works, yes. Dang. Ahhh well. Have there been any rumours coming out about it?
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Conspiratiorist posted:I'd be happy if he just disappeared forever. What is the issue with him, if you don't mind me asking?
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Josef bugman posted:What is the issue with him, if you don't mind me asking? It's a big can of worms, but you can get a mild, short version of it by reading the end of the previous thread's op. And also he's just really bad for the industry as a creative head.
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Josef bugman posted:What is the issue with him, if you don't mind me asking? Mike Mearls brought on one Zak Sabbath as a "consultant" for D&D 5e. I'm using scare quotes because it's not entirely clear how much input he had into the project, but at the minimum it was a marketing ploy to try and curry favor with players of OSR games, which what Zak S is (in)famous for. Zak S is serial harasser, as in "drives people out of the country/out of all internet presence" level of harassment. When Zak S was first brought into the project, survivors of his behavior, along with their supporters, petitioned Mearls to please leave him out of it, citing his history of abuse. Mearls then proceeded to ask for proof of these allegations, and then, when such proof was submitted, sent the proof to Zak S himself, presumably to have it verified. Naturally, these allegations were denied and disputed, and Mearls stood by his man. That was years ago. The tipping point was earlier this year, when Mandy Morbid, a former friend of Zak's released an account detailing physical and psychological abuse at Zak's hands. It immediately went public enough, and came from an unimpeachable source, such that Zak could not pull his usual shuck-and-jive of deflecting, accusing his accuser of lying, and so on. It was basically what broke the dam on what was more than a decade of people trying to convince the hobby to please divest themselves of this awful, awful person. And for once, there was enough of an uprising that the accusations couldn't be hand-waved-away anymore. WOTC released a milquetoast non-apology about the issue, and Mearls I believe sent out a single, badly-received tweet about it, which was completely insufficient given how much he knew about all this and how complicit he was in (re)enabling the abusive behavior to continue. Apparently the consultant credit has been dropped from the latest printings of the book, and WOTC has tried to make some ineffectual and insincere attempts at contrition, and since about February we haven't heard a peep from Mearls at all. ___ The very short version is that Mike Mearls actively harbored a known abuser within the ranks of D&D, and tried to pander to his fanbase in a ghoulish attempt to market the game to a broader audience.
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So, what would folks advise Mearls to do? I mean in this instance the best thing should defo be "I was/am an idiot, I am resigning from DnD to spend more time with important stuff". Also is Mearls the bloke who looks a lot like Stefan Molyneux?
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No, Mearls looks like a kid who had many unfortunate nicknames in school and also got beat up for his lunch money. As for what he should do, is just quit the industry and any kind of public-facing role forever. Maybe that's what he's been (forced to) doing? Who knows.
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Josef bugman posted:So, what would folks advise Mearls to do? I mean in this instance the best thing should defo be "I was/am an idiot, I am resigning from DnD to spend more time with important stuff". I personally don't have much of an investment in what Mearls should do, besides stepping down and letting someone else man the development of the game, I just think it's "funny" that he got owned so hard that he was probably issued a gag order to just stay off all social media. quote:Also is Mearls the bloke who looks a lot like Stefan Molyneux? You might be thinking of Venger Satanis, who is another flavor of OSR reprobate, but is a different person.
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