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Captain Hygiene posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INov9gQ2aUA ahahaha
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Werner Herzog also had no idea what to expect from Comic-Con and ended up loving it.
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Captain Hygiene posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INov9gQ2aUA  this owns
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Werner Herzog also had no idea what to expect from Comic-Con and ended up loving it. link? this sounds delightful.
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Apr 30, 2019 13:35
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Guys, did you know Werner Herzog voiced a character on Rick and Morty? He's a very funny and intelligent person!
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Paladinus posted:Guys, did you know Werner Herzog voiced a character on Rick and Morty? He's a very funny and intelligent person! He also cameo'd on Parks & Rec, what's your point?
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Apr 30, 2019 13:51
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Has he ever interviewed Slavoj ˇi˛ek?
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Apr 30, 2019 13:57
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Paladinus posted:Guys, did you know Werner Herzog voiced a character on Rick and Morty? He's a very funny and intelligent person! To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Werner Herzog
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Apr 30, 2019 13:58
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He was for some reason the bad guy in an action movie. I think he just does whatever the first thing to come to mind is if he's not already working on something.
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Werner Herzog: both one of the world's great directors, and one of the greatest two-bit scary-German character actors.
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Apr 30, 2019 14:52
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That is literally one of five Parks and Rec scenes I’ve ever watched. It was a delight to just walk into a friends house and see that madness on the screen.
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rodbeard posted:He was for some reason the bad guy in an action movie. I think he just does whatever the first thing to come to mind is if he's not already working on something. Jack Reacher, which starred Tom Cruise. The only other fun thing about that movie was the fight scene halfway through where two jamokes attack Cruise's character in a bathroom and it turns into a low-key Three Stooges reference with Cruise as Moe, complete with eye gouges and clonking the two mooks' heads together.
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Oxxidation posted:he was very extremely out of shape There are people like that. I work on the fifth floor of my office building and always take the stairs up. One day while doing so I reach the second or third floor and recognize a coworker from another department who is just standing there completely out of breath. You would think she'd just run a marathon. It was crazy, I actually stopped to ask if she was okay. I would describe my own level of fitness as 'goon-tier' even if I'm not technically overweight. I guess the moral of the story is, no matter how out-of-shape you are, there are always people who manage to do worse
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lifg posted:Werner Herzog: both one of the world's great directors, and one of the greatest two-bit scary-German character actors. Also very casual about being plinked by a pellet gun... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrRNM9cMBDk&t=47s
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Phlegmish posted:There are people like that. I work on the fifth floor of my office building and always take the stairs up. One day while doing so I reach the second or third floor and recognize a coworker from another department who is just standing there completely out of breath. You would think she'd just run a marathon. It was crazy, I actually stopped to ask if she was okay. Its a big thing for the fat acceptance movement to highlight skinny people who have no energy and terrible nutrition as proof that being skinny isnt a sign of being "healthy" as that somehow justifies being 100 lbs overweight. Drink 10 cups of coffee, smoke 2 packs a day, eat a lite salad and a granola bar no poo poo you are going to have health issues. Its not better just because you do the same but with fast food meals 3x a day.
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what does that have to do with their post
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i think people are just yelling their grievances into the void, y'know, an SA thead
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Snow Cone Capone posted:link? this sounds delightful. https://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/216123/ quote:“I have never seen the collective dreams all in one place,” said Mr. Herzog, who claims to have expected men in suits — business suits — when he heard the term “convention.”
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That's pretty cool. I guess it kind of makes sense, I feel like if you can get past the smell of unwashed nerds, it's a pretty good place to see ~30,000 people who are all collectively in a great mood and having fun acting out their fantasies e: I worked security for PAX East a couple of years and it was a similar thing. Even when I had to do the less attendee-friendly jobs (repeatedly telling the same people at the Riot Games booth that they risk having the whole convention shut down if they don't clear the loving fire lanes, for example) I don't think I encountered a single rude or bad-tempered person; everyone (except maybe the people losing at the Magic the Gathering tournaments) was in a really great and friendly mood.
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McCandless died to a neurotoxin previously unknown to science. Getting killed by something the literature said was completely safe isn't really something that more preparation could have helped with. Dude even managed to identify the source of the poison, though by that point it was too late.
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Tunicate posted:McCandless died to a neurotoxin previously unknown to science. Getting killed by something the literature said was completely safe isn't really something that more preparation could have helped with. Dude even managed to identify the source of the poison, though by that point it was too late. okay I think you ended up in the wrong thread but I have got to know context on this
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It's not the wrong thread, we got onto Herzog because the thread was talking about shopping cart cross country goon and I conflated McCandless, who lived in a bus in Alaska and died of poison, and the other guy that died of misadventure in Alaska, eaten by a bear, whom Herzog made a documentary about All's in order, here are my papers
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Tunicate posted:McCandless died to a neurotoxin previously unknown to science. Getting killed by something the literature said was completely safe isn't really something that more preparation could have helped with. Dude even managed to identify the source of the poison, though by that point it was too late. Do you have a source for this? Everything I've seen says it was either ODAP (known about, but hard to tell because toxicity only presents in people who are already badly malnourished) or L-canavanine, neither of which were "previously unknown neurotoxins." e: according to this article, the reason they didn't find a cause of death initially was because they were looking for toxic alkaloids instead of toxic amino acids. quote:To establish once and for all whether Hedysarum alpinum is toxic, last month I sent a hundred and fifty grams of freshly collected wild-potato seeds to Avomeen Analytical Services, in Ann Arbor, Michigan, for H.P.L.C. analysis. Dr. Craig Larner, the chemist who conducted the test, determined that the seeds contained .394 per cent beta-odap by weight, a concentration well within the levels known to cause lathyrism in humans. ODAP was known about at least since WW2, since the guy who figured it out, did so by realizing that Jews in a specific concentration camp in WW2 were experimented on by being fed almost exclusively the same plant McCandless was consuming en masse, and they knew exactly what would happen: quote:a Jewish doctor and inmate at the camp, Dr. Arthur Kessler, understood what this implied, particularly when within months, hundreds of the young male inmates of the camp began limping, and had begun to use sticks as crutches to propel themselves about. In some cases inmates had been rapidly reduced to crawling on their backsides to make their ways through the compound …. Once the inmates had ingested enough of the culprit plant, it was as if a silent fire had been lit within their bodies. There was no turning back from this fire—once kindled, it would burn until the person who had eaten the grasspea would ultimately be crippled …. The more they’d eaten, the worse the consequences—but in any case, once the effects had begun, there was simply no way to reverse them …. The disease is called, simply, neurolathyrism, or more commonly, “lathyrism.”… Snow Cone Capone has a new favorite as of 22:47 on May 1, 2019 |
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tl;dr: there's a big difference between "unknown to science" and "known to science but unknown to some 20-year-old idiot"
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Going to a con with an adult who has never been is wonderful. The whole event really is giant and weird and magical. I went with a friend, and seeing everything through his fresh eyes really filed off some of my cynism.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:tl;dr: there's a big difference between "unknown to science" and "known to science but unknown to some 20-year-old idiot" Concentration camps was a different plant ( the grass pea, Lathyrus sativus), which had the same toxin. Nobody knew that neurotoxin was in the wild potato seeds until they was tested after McCandless died (all the literature said they were harmless and good to eat). He left a note saying "EXTREMELY WEAK. FAULT OF POT[ATO] SEED. MUCH TROUBLE JUST TO STAND UP. STARVING. GREAT JEOPARDY", which was a bit of a hint. It's not uncommon for things to turn out to be ridiculously deadly after being regarded as safe - Paxillus involutus was, until recently, considered to be a totally harmless and tasty mushroom, but it turns out that sometimes it randomly makes you allergic to your own blood and then you die. Tunicate has a new favorite as of 23:08 on May 1, 2019 |
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Tunicate posted:Concentration camps was a different plant ( the grass pea, Lathyrus sativus), which had the same toxin. The only test for it was extremely flawed: https://cen.acs.org/content/cen/articles/91/i43/Chemists-Dispute-WildProtagonist-Chris-McCandless.html It's more likely that he confused wild potato plants with sweet pea plants (the concentration camp experiments plant), since they're apparently extremely similar. e: anyway the overall point is still that he died because he was a moron; if he had even basic survival skills he wouldn't have been so malnourished that ODAP could be toxic.
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Tunicate posted:It's not uncommon for things to turn out to be ridiculously deadly after being regarded as safe - Paxillus involutus was, until recently, considered to be a totally harmless and tasty mushroom, but it turns out that sometimes it randomly makes you allergic to your own blood and then you die. Sure, but apparently literally the only evidence that wild potato even contains ODAP is in that one, apparently badly flawed, test that the Krakauer himself paid for. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that a half-starved teenager would confuse 2 very similar plants, and I'm legit not sure how he would have come to the conclusion that what was making him weak were the copious amounts of seeds he was eating, rather than the near-total lack of any other source of nutrition. Snow Cone Capone has a new favorite as of 23:14 on May 1, 2019 |
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The only test for it was extremely flawed: Yeah, and that's why after that 2013 criticism, they tested wild potatoes seeds again, in 2015. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1080603214002774 quote:Results Tunicate has a new favorite as of 23:18 on May 1, 2019 |
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May 1, 2019 23:15
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Tunicate posted:Yeah, and that's why after that 2013 criticism, they tested wild potatoes seeds again, in 2015. That study actually further refutes the first one. ODAP and L-canavanine are different compounds. They conclusively identified L-canavanine in that second test. Snow Cone Capone has a new favorite as of 23:24 on May 1, 2019 |
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i am not a scientist but
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Lol at the role model killed by potato
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Poor ol' trust fund baby, thought of the wilderness and died.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Werner Herzog also had no idea what to expect from Comic-Con and ended up loving it.  he also played himself in an incredible mockumentary called Incident at Loch Ness in the early 2000s. It's about him trying to make a documentary about the cultural influences of the Loch Ness monster and the shithead Hollywood producer who keeps trying to jazz it up by going behind his back to have cheap animatronic monster parts made that he can sneak into the shots (among many other things). it owns
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The best part about this is Aubrey Plaza managing to creep him out, which I have to imagine is an extremely difficult thing to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqnI_zizaSI&t=307s
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Reiche posted:The best part about this is Aubrey Plaza managing to creep him out, which I have to imagine is an extremely difficult thing to do. goddamn that's amazing
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What was "fell in a terlet" from
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Phy posted:What was "fell in a terlet" from your birth sorry 
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