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Wolfy
Jul 13, 2009

Burt Sexual posted:

Maybe the did that earlier in the day, then winds picked up. And now it’s too windy to replace them. Why not do one section at a time is my issue.
The extremely pessimistic take is the contractor thought they could save money on the crane rental by having all of the pins removed before they got there.

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JackSplater
Nov 20, 2014

Metal Coat? It's already active?!

Powershift posted:

most of the reusable pallets i've seen in Canada re the orange CPC ones, but they never sued anybody and that's probably why they died

We get blue cheps, red PECOs (functionally identical to american block cheps), and these weird-rear end green ones that only ever come with beer. Canadian Tire has its own CTC pallets that are about seventy inches long. There are also some plastic ones I have no idea who owns them that break super easy.

emf posted:

Just the sticker was replaced, right?

I assume so. The PM shop is in another building (and only ever does work for our building if they absolutely have to) and that sure sounds like the least effort. The tank has no sticker right now, at least, so they did something.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Wolfy posted:

The extremely pessimistic take is the contractor thought they could save money on the crane rental by having all of the pins removed before they got there.

That’s illegal!

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Just wanted to say I watched some lindybeige a while back and then my youtub filled up with climate change denial.

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost

Karate Bastard posted:

Just wanted to say I watched some lindybeige a while back and then my youtub filled up with climate change denial.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
It was actually pretty scary. Getting fed nothing but one side's arguments, not all of which are bonkers, can paint a believable picture.

Made me think about what other arguments I'm purposely fed only one side of, cause there's bound to be some. Makes me think about what a nasty danger to democracy this is, with most people deliberately misinformed about important things, about things that matter to them, for mouse clicks. gently caress my bum that's scary.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Google felling a crane on a child is oddly symbolic of that actually.

E: by removing the security bolts meant to keep the whole thing upright, no less.

Karate Bastard fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Apr 30, 2019

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


So on pallet chat:

Bunnings (big Hardware/DIY) chain was fined $11million dollars a few years ago for using CHEP pallets in their warehouses. Funny thing considering their usual go-to was LOSCAM which is a competitor.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/bunnings-11m-pallet-cleanser-20100511-uupr.html

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009







tag yourself

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench
I'm the construction crew that very carefully and neatly enclosed a railing inside a column.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
I'm the railing that leans out at an angle from the stairs

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

CannonFodder posted:

I'm the construction crew that very carefully and neatly enclosed a railing inside a column.

"gently caress it, I'm just doing what I'm told."

Some people just don't give a gently caress.

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987
I'm the fire extinguisher on the truck full of explosive chemicals

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

Powershift posted:


tag yourself
I'm otheonacho, the most powerful of the petroleum distillate-based dips

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

I'm otheonacho, the most powerful of the petroleum distillate-based dips

That's just theater nachos, man

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
огне = fire
опасно = danger

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I was doing a bunch of "research" on combat for a nerd game I was running because D&D's rules are dumb and stupid and discovered this lindybeige character and then based a lot of stuff off that. I didn't know he was a bad :(

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Baronjutter posted:

I was doing a bunch of "research" on combat for a nerd game I was running because D&D's rules are dumb and stupid and discovered this lindybeige character and then based a lot of stuff off that. I didn't know he was a bad :(

He's also not actually that good or knowledgeable. Skallagrim is a better option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR976PhMbDM

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

JackSplater posted:

I was always told $50 each at my transport job. We have a building dedicated 100% to sorting out empty pallets. Chep (american and canadian), Peco, Molson, standard 4-way junk pallets, like 9 types of plastic... We see a lot of pallets. Enough to employ four shifts of 2 people (4-on-4-off 12hr days).

Back when I did shipping and distribution, junk but functional pallets were free from UPS, OK pallets were $5, new pallets were $25. I can't speak to the plastic ones. They always had to be returned. This is for 48"x40" pallets.

We used to give away our broken pallets to our cardboard guy. We'd sell extra pallets to carriers. When we were short, we'd ask our UPS driver for pallets. UPS was always happy to get rid of them. In 10 years, we never paid for a pallet.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Karate Bastard posted:

Google felling a crane on a child is oddly symbolic of that actually.

E: by removing the security bolts meant to keep the whole thing upright, no less.

Reading the articles from the initial analysis, they're saying the people working on the crane didn't read the assembly/disassembly instructions and removed the wrong bolts, making it very easy to tip over.

This is something that the new OSHA standards that were finalized in November talks about. Certification like my company does is the equivalent to a driver's license, or maybe a learner's permit: it's an indicator that you've met the minimum competency standards to operate. It's still the employer's responsibility to ensure that the operators are actually trained on the particular equipment they're going to be using and have documentation that they were evaluated for this competency. There's a good chance that even if these guys were certified (which they may not have been, especially if they weren't in charge of operating the crane itself) they weren't properly trained before being assigned to it.

For the record, I checked. We did not certify them.

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


chitoryu12 posted:

He's also not actually that good or knowledgeable. Skallagrim is a better option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR976PhMbDM

hahahaha i bet this guy was bullied so hard as a kid

what a loving dork

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

Baronjutter posted:

I was doing a bunch of "research" on combat for a nerd game I was running because D&D's rules are dumb and stupid and discovered this lindybeige character and then based a lot of stuff off that. I didn't know he was a bad :(

Well that's another thing that's so scary about this: neither did I, and still don't. For all I know he spoke entertainingly and respectfully about poo poo I found entertaining and mattered gently caress all to me, like why is a halbred shaped the way it is, and iirc he never claimed to be an authority on anything. Maybe he was a führer in his own time, or promoted die totalenkrieg in videos that were never brought to my attention, but I doubt it. He seemed like inoffensive semi interesting entertainment perfect for putting me to sleep workdays. He did make one video that I saw that was like "hmm there are some facts promoted by climate change activists that don't add up, and maybe we should be wary about that" which is 100% accurate (because there are loving idiots everywhere that talk poo poo and hurt their own cause), but me watching that was apparently enough for google to decide to drop me into the trench of climate change denier propaganda and shelter me from any information that might offend my purported climate change denier senses or distract me from its poison comfort food trough.

So none of this was ever brought to my conscious attention of couse. Google is like Mr Creosote's waiter, feeding you garbage with a smile until it kills you and covers everyone in barf, for that sweet sweet ad money and panopticon control over people's decision making.

BlankIsBeautiful
Apr 4, 2008

Feeling a little inadequate?
Dump truck vs. pedestrian bridge just down the road from where I'm working. Glad I got in early today.



https://www.news5cleveland.com/traffic/traffic-news/dump-truck-hit-pedestrian-bridge-on-i-77-southbound-at-pershing-avenue

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

BlankIsBeautiful posted:

Dump truck vs. pedestrian bridge just down the road from where I'm working. Glad I got in early today.



https://www.news5cleveland.com/traffic/traffic-news/dump-truck-hit-pedestrian-bridge-on-i-77-southbound-at-pershing-avenue

From this angle it looks like it might be a tie. Time for a rematch.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
https://i.imgur.com/G5KxMma.mp4

aardvaard
Mar 4, 2013

you belong in the bog of eternal stench

Hooplah posted:

hahahaha i bet this guy was bullied so hard as a kid

what a loving dork

you seem really cool

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
He is really cool.

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


Hooplah posted:

hahahaha i bet this guy was bullied so hard as a kid

what a loving dork

turn on your monitor

sir

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

SpaceCadetBob posted:

Armchair engineering and all, his explanation and evidence looks pretty damning to me. The only part I’m having a hard time with is that he mentioned that maybe someone pulled all the pins at once before removing the sections, but that doesn’t jive with the earlier comment that driving the pins without the tower being supported from above is super hard.

super hard, but not impossible

also the pins coming out would be easier, because the column is already aligned, inserting them is tough if it isn't aligned just so, but that wouldn't be the case for removing them

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Karate Bastard posted:

Well that's another thing that's so scary about this: neither did I, and still don't. For all I know he spoke entertainingly and respectfully about poo poo I found entertaining and mattered gently caress all to me, like why is a halbred shaped the way it is, and iirc he never claimed to be an authority on anything. Maybe he was a führer in his own time, or promoted die totalenkrieg in videos that were never brought to my attention, but I doubt it. He seemed like inoffensive semi interesting entertainment perfect for putting me to sleep workdays. He did make one video that I saw that was like "hmm there are some facts promoted by climate change activists that don't add up, and maybe we should be wary about that" which is 100% accurate (because there are loving idiots everywhere that talk poo poo and hurt their own cause), but me watching that was apparently enough for google to decide to drop me into the trench of climate change denier propaganda and shelter me from any information that might offend my purported climate change denier senses or distract me from its poison comfort food trough.

So none of this was ever brought to my conscious attention of couse. Google is like Mr Creosote's waiter, feeding you garbage with a smile until it kills you and covers everyone in barf, for that sweet sweet ad money and panopticon control over people's decision making.

YouTube's content suggestions can be really weird a lot of the time though. I don't know what the gently caress I watched, but for about three month's it's been suggesting dozens upon dozens of Jordan Peterson videos, which no sane person should be interested in. I repeatedly used the 'Not Interested' feedback thing, but it took a long rear end time to get the hint.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood
Youtube is a white nationalist radicalization engine.

Also sometimes it is a place of beauty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas6akz1jWU

In short, life is full of contradictions.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
I just disabled my YouTube watch history.

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

Karate Bastard posted:

Well that's another thing that's so scary about this: neither did I, and still don't. For all I know he spoke entertainingly and respectfully about poo poo I found entertaining and mattered gently caress all to me, like why is a halbred shaped the way it is, and iirc he never claimed to be an authority on anything. Maybe he was a führer in his own time, or promoted die totalenkrieg in videos that were never brought to my attention, but I doubt it. He seemed like inoffensive semi interesting entertainment perfect for putting me to sleep workdays. He did make one video that I saw that was like "hmm there are some facts promoted by climate change activists that don't add up, and maybe we should be wary about that" which is 100% accurate (because there are loving idiots everywhere that talk poo poo and hurt their own cause), but me watching that was apparently enough for google to decide to drop me into the trench of climate change denier propaganda and shelter me from any information that might offend my purported climate change denier senses or distract me from its poison comfort food trough.

So none of this was ever brought to my conscious attention of couse. Google is like Mr Creosote's waiter, feeding you garbage with a smile until it kills you and covers everyone in barf, for that sweet sweet ad money and panopticon control over people's decision making.

Just this one teensy tiny Joe Rogan video, surely? It's only waaahfer thin.

coke
Jul 12, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOQmQpKHVWA

Journalist: how do we trust you after the mcas system shows a possible flaw in the design and faa certification system?
CEO: our design met the spec and certifications, our pilots were flying it fine but we will train others better, also it was a link in the chain of events

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

coke posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOQmQpKHVWA

Journalist: how do we trust you after the mcas system shows a possible flaw in the design and faa certification system?
CEO: our design met the spec and certifications, our pilots were flying it fine but we will train others better, also it was a link in the chain of events

Our annual meeting at work had a prominent astronaut as its guest speaker and he talked about the MCAS debacle. He described the issue as basically a lack of trust in pilots to be able to handle an issue with the plane, so they created an automated system that would override pilot input to keep them safe. Then when the system fails, there's no way for the pilots to get around it even if they're trained and aware that the system is present and the plane gleefully crashes itself into the ground.

It's an absolute travesty. Instead of using training and competency checks to make sure pilots could handle the new plane's handling quirks, they just decided it was too much work or that the pilots would never be competent enough to trust with it and tried to take it completely out of their hands with technology.

Blorange
Jan 31, 2007

A wizard did it

chitoryu12 posted:

Our annual meeting at work had a prominent astronaut as its guest speaker and he talked about the MCAS debacle. He described the issue as basically a lack of trust in pilots to be able to handle an issue with the plane, so they created an automated system that would override pilot input to keep them safe. Then when the system fails, there's no way for the pilots to get around it even if they're trained and aware that the system is present and the plane gleefully crashes itself into the ground.

It's an absolute travesty. Instead of using training and competency checks to make sure pilots could handle the new plane's handling quirks, they just decided it was too much work or that the pilots would never be competent enough to trust with it and tried to take it completely out of their hands with technology.

It's not about trust, if pilots had to be retrained for the new handling parameters the entire design gets moved into the 'slow and painful' FAA certification pipeline. By pretending the plane was exactly the same from the pilot's perspective, Boeing could get it certified and out to market months earlier.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
I've watched a lot of Jordan Peterson. A lot of it makes sense to me and has actually helped me -especially his university lectures- and none of it threw me into apoplexics, but he was starting to grate on me so I stopped.

Since youtube is unwilling to oblige me I'd be grateful if someone could recommend me an alternative point of view that I'm obviously not being fed. I've tried watching contrapoints but she's such high production values and slapstick for comedy that I'm like Christ do you have a point and if so for the love of God would you get to it please? Don't get me wrong the Jordan Peterson lobster daddy mask in the bath was hilarious, but I'm not necessarily looking for entertainment here but a reasonable point of view, and dragging JP into the bath is certainly one but not the other.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Karate Bastard posted:

I've watched a lot of Jordan Peterson. A lot of it makes sense to me and has actually helped me -especially his university lectures- and none of it threw me into apoplexics, but he was starting to grate on me so I stopped.

Since youtube is unwilling to oblige me I'd be grateful if someone could recommend me an alternative point of view that I'm obviously not being fed. I've tried watching contrapoints but she's such high production values and slapstick for comedy that I'm like Christ do you have a point and if so for the love of God would you get to it please? Don't get me wrong the Jordan Peterson lobster daddy mask in the bath was hilarious, but I'm not necessarily looking for entertainment here but a reasonable point of view, and dragging JP into the bath is certainly one but not the other.

Thoughtslime
Cuck Philosophy
More Contrapoints until you appreciate her although a lot of her videos are pretty trans-focused so that doesn't apply or resonate with everyone but her videos on capitalism are pretty ok.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
I'd rather not watch something with "cuck" in it. Please?

Thanks for the other suggestions though! I'll check it out.

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PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
There's probably an unedited version out there, but Jesus Christ.

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