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Random Stranger posted:I really loving hate that "I don't believe in you" line. Tony has met Odin and lives in a world where magic is real, gods hang out in his living room, supernatural embodiments of concepts regularly appear, and all of this is testable and repeatable. As a "scientist" he should 100% believe in gods in that kind of world. But the writer just goes "scientist = atheist" without understanding either concept. quote:"I don’t hold with paddlin’ with the occult," said Granny firmly. "Once you start paddlin’ with the occult you start believing in spirits, and when you start believing in spirits you start believing in demons, and then before you know where you are you’re believing in gods. And then you’re in trouble."
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Coincidentally I was thinking about the golem in another of Pratchett's books who states that he doesn't believe gods exist, right afterwards he's struck by a lightning bolt which he shrugs off with, "That's Not Much Of An Argument."
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Tony has repeatedly told Dr. Strange that he doesn't believe magic is a thing, it's just a clumsy unscientific way to channel existing scientific elements that we've yet to completely understand. That's perfectly consistent with how he views the world and the character's strengths and flaws. Sometimes superhero skepticism is loving dumb, like in the 90s when Blade teamed up with Spider-man and Spidey was like "vampires aren't real, you crazy man" even though he's definitely seen enough to know they're real, including that time he fought Dracula. But I don't think Iron Man's interactions with Odin are on that level.
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"Vampires aren't real Blade, everyone knows that. Now come help me beat up my long time foe, Morbius!"
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Infinitum posted:"Vampires aren't real Blade, everyone knows that. Now come help me beat up my long time foe, Morbius!" It's no vampires, they're allowed to have one!
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Morbius is the result of a scientific treatment gone wrong, giving him superhuman abilities, aversion to light and the need for blood to survive, though. Completely different to vampires.
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And Vampirella's just from a planet where there's just blood instead of water. What.
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Lurdiak posted:Tony has repeatedly told Dr. Strange that he doesn't believe magic is a thing, it's just a clumsy unscientific way to channel existing scientific elements that we've yet to completely understand. That's perfectly consistent with how he views the world and the character's strengths and flaws. The problem is that's circular. "Magic doesn't exist. I just arbitrarily define it as something different and therefore it doesn't count even though magic is clearly performed in front of me every day." It requires defining magic as something in opposition of science, a common trope in lovely fantasy, as opposed to being just another part of the universe. If "magic" is saying the same words and performing the same gestures and getting the same results, then it's also science. It's the writer making distinctions that don't textually exist for the sake of making a point that doesn't make any sense in the context of the story, and typically it comes from the writer not understanding what science is.
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Random Stranger posted:The problem is that's circular. "Magic doesn't exist. I just arbitrarily define it as something different and therefore it doesn't count." Does that not sound like the kind of annoying poo poo Tony would pull to make himself sound smart for not changing his worldview?
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Lurdiak posted:Does that not sound like the kind of annoying poo poo Tony would pull to make himself sound smart for not changing his worldview? Actually, yeah. I forgot Tony is the worst human being in the Marvel universe and that does put things into context.
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Random Stranger posted:Actually, yeah. I forgot Tony is the worst human being in the Marvel universe and that does put things into context. Second worst. Beast is number one
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He said "human". :friendsofhumanity:
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Random Stranger posted:The problem is that's circular. "Magic doesn't exist. I just arbitrarily define it as something different and therefore it doesn't count even though magic is clearly performed in front of me every day." It requires defining magic as something in opposition of science, a common trope in lovely fantasy, as opposed to being just another part of the universe. If "magic" is saying the same words and performing the same gestures and getting the same results, then it's also science. It's the writer making distinctions that don't textually exist for the sake of making a point that doesn't make any sense in the context of the story, and typically it comes from the writer not understanding what science is. Ehhh, I can see it. I genuinely don't know the details of how a car engine works, but even in a universe with actual wizards I'm not likely to accept "it's magic" as an answer. Tony might not know why a particular set of runes, glyphs, hand motions and syllables cause a rift to tear open between dimensions, but he's also not likely to accept "it is the will of the vashanti" as an answer either; he's holding out for the right to say "Dr. Strange's gibberish and specific finger waggles manage to exploit X loophole in the physical anomalies caused by Y phenomena." ...And once he can, he gets to tell everyone to gently caress off when they call it magic. Consistency doesn't play into it--the sun rises every day, right on schedule, but we've (mostly) stopped calling that a miracle or attributing it to the will of Ra or whatever. Then again, we do still say "the sun rises" even though we know it's not literally rising anymore, and natural disasters are still called "acts of god" in insurance and liability parlance, so gently caress me I don't know maybe Tony is just a dick
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Actually the sun rising every day IS a miracle you cynical bastard
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theflyingorc posted:Actually the sun rising every day IS a miracle you cynical bastard music is all magic you can't even hold it edit: it's just there in the air double edit: I should have just posted this 
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Gnome de plume posted:Morbius is the result of a scientific treatment gone wrong, giving him superhuman abilities, aversion to light and the need for blood to survive, though. He doesn't even need blood, just this "plasma" thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBN1uDbVN1Y
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Mierenneuker posted:He doesn't even need blood, just this "plasma" thing. Noone told me Morbius was a Jehovas Witness!
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Went looking up the old Deadpool issue where he impersonates Tony Stark and goes on a bender in an Ironman suit. The whole issue is delightful   (Deadpool 2013 - #7)
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Mierenneuker posted:He doesn't even need blood, just this "plasma" thing. Morbius crawling home to his bedroom just covered in pictures of Havoc from his X-force days.
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Infinitum posted:Went looking up the old Deadpool issue where he impersonates Tony Stark and goes on a bender in an Ironman suit. Doesn't someone around here have that terrifying last-panel Jonah as an av? Or am I thinking of a different equally-terrifying Jonah?
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  Great job, colorist. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures #3 (1988)
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Phy posted:Doesn't someone around here have that terrifying last-panel Jonah as an av? Or am I thinking of a different equally-terrifying Jonah? A bunch of people did for a while, myself included
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It's the second-best Jonah someone can have as an avatar.
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hup posted:A bunch of people did for a while, myself included Was that before or after a bunch of us had the Spidey Hard Hat avatar? I think that's still kicking around on a goon or two.
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Elfface posted:It's the second-best Jonah someone can have as an avatar. As a guy with the 3rd best, you would know right?
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Lobok posted:Was that before or after a bunch of us had the Spidey Hard Hat avatar? I think that's still kicking around on a goon or two. I think that was about the one time I contributed something to the forums.
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Lunatic Sledge posted:Then again, we do still say "the sun rises" even though we know it's not literally rising anymore, and natural disasters are still called "acts of god" in insurance and liability parlance, so gently caress me I don't know maybe Tony is just a dick quote:WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF YOU HADN'T SAVED HIM? The rest of this conversation is even better and high on my list of all time favorite Terry Pratchett passages but doesn't directly apply to the discussion.
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I like that the device is shooting waves of solid white. It looks weird and good.
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Its a whipped cream dispenser
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Synthbuttrange posted:Its a whipped cream dispenser Or Shaving Cream, the one thing that could stop a norseman, removing their beards.
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It's shooting Ink Remover, erasing characters for good
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Samuringa posted:It's shooting Ink Remover, erasing characters for good  ??
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What's the greatest Kirby mouth of all?
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Discendo Vox posted:What's the greatest Kirby mouth of all? I was gonna do a joke post, but ended up spending about 30 minutes looking at Kirby double page spreads. In any case, here are my nominations for best Kirby mouth
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