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I made it about a third of the way into The Lies of Locke Lamora when I was 18 before realizing that I was too old for it. It honestly reads like a YA novel.
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Lynch is good. He's fast paced, moves the story along, and isn't up his own rear end with prose.
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Apr 27, 2019 12:41
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Lies of Locke Lamora owns. Especially if as your measuring stick you're using Rothfart.
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Apr 27, 2019 14:11
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I made it about a third of the way into The Lies of Locke Lamora when I was 18 before realizing that I was too old for it. It honestly reads like a YA novel. You're never too old for Animorphs. Also those quotes are pretty laughable because we really don't learn poo poo of value. We know currency, yeah, because that's what the entire drat books are about, and it isn't even very consistent with that one thing. We don't know anything about the world outside of the Four Corners, and hell, we barely know anything about the world INSIDE the Four Corners. It's set in a small continent with only a few nations and we know very little about most of those nations as is.
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Apr 27, 2019 18:43
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Sham bam bamina! posted:You say "criteria" as if there's some sort of judgement going on. You can throw any old horseshit you want into a fantasy world, and the readers will eat it right up. That was more the point of my statement. Good writing, interesting characters, interesting plot? No, what they want is a map that shows where castle Belzenlock is in comparison to The Northlands. Hint: to the South.
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Apr 27, 2019 19:08
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Reene posted:I will fight you Lynch is way better  ElGroucho posted:Lynch is good. He's fast paced, moves the story along, and isn't up his own rear end with prose. Benson Cunningham posted:Lies of Locke Lamora owns. Especially if as your measuring stick you're using Rothfart.
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Apr 27, 2019 19:35
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High praise indeed. Unencumbered by trifles like "prose", the fast-paced, quickly-moving Gentleman Bastard series surpasses even the standard set by the Kingkiller Chronicle. You guys could seriously be talking about Dean Koontz here. Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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Apr 27, 2019 20:45
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Lynch rules because his hero fails every now and then
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Apr 27, 2019 21:00
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Sham bam bamina! posted:High praise indeed. Unencumbered by trifles like "prose", the fast-paced, quickly-moving Gentleman Bastard series surpasses even the standard set by the Kingkiller Chronicle. I dunno, this really sounds like you're intentionally misunderstanding them for a dumb dunk. Since like, the comparison is to Rothfuss, who is absolutely up his own rear end with prose.
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Apr 27, 2019 21:08
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Of course I was going for a dumb dunk. You could have bolded "even the standard set by the Kingkiller Chronicle" too. But I do think that the compliments people are giving Lynch here are surprisingly tepid for the enthusiasm of their delivery.
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Apr 27, 2019 21:29
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Of course I was going for a dumb dunk. You could have bolded "even the standard set by the Kingkiller Chronicle" too. But I do think that the compliments people are giving Lynch here are surprisingly tepid for the enthusiasm of their delivery. Maybe they like it a lot even though they know it's not some amazing wonderbook of Pure Literature. And also there's someone in the thread who goes for dumb dunks on even the slightest amount of "like book".
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Apr 28, 2019 00:56
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Abercrombie vs. Lynch deathfight, go!
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Apr 28, 2019 01:58
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Scott Lynch, Rothfuss and Neil Gaiman all live in Wisconsin. Must be the cold weather and heavy drinking.
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Apr 28, 2019 03:05
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I got about a third of the way into Lies of Locke Lamora before realising that there was one female character in the book, and she dies to motivate the male main characters.
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Apr 28, 2019 03:06
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Gluten Freeman posted:I got about a third of the way into Lies of Locke Lamora before realising that there was one female character in the book, and she dies to motivate the male main characters. That's funny, Lynch caught flak from the chuds for making a pirate captain a woman in the 2nd book
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Apr 28, 2019 03:16
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Gluten Freeman posted:I got about a third of the way into Lies of Locke Lamora before realising that there was one female character in the book, and she dies to motivate the male main characters. As much as I enjoy the series, this happens again in the second book.
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Apr 28, 2019 03:27
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Subvisual Haze posted:Scott Lynch, Rothfuss and Neil Gaiman all live in Wisconsin. Must be the cold weather and heavy drinking. Lynch moved a couple of years ago to Massachusetts or somewhere nearby.
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Apr 28, 2019 03:28
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Subvisual Haze posted:Scott Lynch, Rothfuss and Neil Gaiman all live in Wisconsin. Must be the cold weather and heavy drinking. It's either write fantasy novels or be a serial killer. Those are the only two occupations available in Wisconsin.
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Apr 28, 2019 05:46
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Benson Cunningham posted:Lies of Locke Lamora owns. Especially if as your measuring stick you're using Rothfart. Random series on Kindle Unlimited own compared to Rothfuss so you aren't really saying much there.
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Apr 28, 2019 06:45
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Random Series is a brilliant trilogy though. The PoV narrators in Stochastic Sequence are delightfully unpredictable while the tangled web of deceit in Deterministic Parallels is a joy to unravel due to - and not despite - the unusual narration explaining each twist before it happens.
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Apr 28, 2019 15:08
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Evil Fluffy posted:Random series on Kindle Unlimited own compared to Rothfuss so you aren't really saying much there. Turns out fantasy has an embarrassingly low bar to measure up against.
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Apr 28, 2019 18:03
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Dienes posted:As much as I enjoy the series, this happens again in the second book. Then the third book had what was supposed to be a high stakes, cutthroat cat and mouse game of political intrigue come off as a tepid fraternity prank war. I wish Lynch the best as a person but I really don't get the praise he gets. Being better than Rothfuss isn't a bar worth celebrating
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Apr 28, 2019 18:24
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Lynch has admitted he has done bad with regards to fridging Nazca and Ezri which is something that writers like, uh, Rothfuss won't even do. And has tried to do better in each successive book, which I think he has; Zamira loving owns, and the way he wrote Sabetha is probably the best way he possibly could have written her after two books of buildup. The next book has promised to have lots and lots of queer people in it, so that's something to look forward to as well. As for the third book, it's a transparent bridge novel, but the real story was the Esparra poo poo anyway. Also there's nothing wrong with YA. 
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Reene posted:Also there's nothing wrong with YA. Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Apr 28, 2019 |
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Apr 28, 2019 19:19
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Lynch is good for exactly one time with one book when you were doing mindless fantasy skim reading and didn't know any better and then once you do, you try re-reading it or reading the second book and you realize your terrible mistake
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Apr 29, 2019 05:09
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Funny, I had a similar experience with Rothfuss. Which may've ruined my patience for the Lies of Locke Lamora. Started off right up my alley, but felt too childish to finish. And I still answer Guess What with Chicken Butt.
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Also, Lynch is fine in audiobook format. He got me through a couple of unwanted road trips. Try listening to Rothfuss on audio book. You'll be screaming "WHO GIVES A gently caress!!!" in traffic. You'll feel ashamed at the sex ninjas. And you'll be begging for vehicular death any time Deena comes around.
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ElGroucho posted:Also, Lynch is fine in audiobook format. He got me through a couple of unwanted road trips.  I audiobooked lynch as well, most annoying part was not knowing how Camorr etc was spelled.
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idiotsavant posted:to be fair rothfuss only comes across as a creepy weirdo whereas whedon is at the very least an actual abuser So uh I’m quoting this 2 month old post to say that Rothfuss is indeed a creepy weirdo. I was at a convention and a recent acquaintance, a woman half his age, geeked out upon meeting him and invited him to sit and talk at a table with other fans. He offered her a private chat in his hotel room with the promise of ice cream. She says no at which point he promptly about faces leaving a trail of dust and beard hair behind him, just total cold shoulder. I got loads of inside baseball on his dealings and I can’t speak about it without giving away peoples’ identity but let’s just say that the only professional thing this guy runs correctly is his charity which is the only nice thing I can say about the dude. If you’re in a business deal with him he will forget your name, blow you off, and waste your time and money. al-azad fucked around with this message at 09:16 on May 4, 2019 |
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al-azad posted:So uh I’m quoting this 2 month old post to say that Rothfuss is indeed a creepy weirdo. I was at a convention and a recent acquaintance, a woman half his age, geeked out upon meeting him and invited him to sit and talk at a table with other fans. He offered her a private chat in his hotel room with the promise of ice cream. She says no at which point he promptly about faces leaving a trail of dust and beard hair behind him, just total cold shoulder. Drawing right from the pedophile's play book, that one. Surprised he didn't tell the grown-rear end woman that if she came up she could have a puppy, too.
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 I don't even know, but I'm surprised he approached a woman after writing Kvothe.
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al-azad posted:
Dude, his charity is like the scummiest possible version of a charity while still being legal. It takes contributions, pays its employees, and forwards the remaining contributions to real charities. After everyone gets a cut, how much money do you think actually reaches the intended needy?
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May 4, 2019 21:49
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I demand more tea, sis
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BananaNutkins posted:Dude, his charity is like the scummiest possible version of a charity while still being legal. It takes contributions, pays its employees, and forwards the remaining contributions to real charities. After everyone gets a cut, how much money do you think actually reaches the intended needy? Lol I was actually about to come here to post the same thing. It's about as much of a scam as you can get while still being legal.
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al-azad posted:So uh I’m quoting this 2 month old post to say that Rothfuss is indeed a creepy weirdo. I was at a convention and a recent acquaintance, a woman half his age, geeked out upon meeting him and invited him to sit and talk at a table with other fans. He offered her a private chat in his hotel room with the promise of ice cream. She says no at which point he promptly about faces leaving a trail of dust and beard hair behind him, just total cold shoulder. Again, not surprising. I figure the only reason he hasn't had accusers come forward is because he's probably hobo Jeffrey Dahmer or the fact that even his fans are repulsed by him.
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May 4, 2019 23:26
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BananaNutkins posted:Dude, his charity is like the scummiest possible version of a charity while still being legal. It takes contributions, pays its employees, and forwards the remaining contributions to real charities. After everyone gets a cut, how much money do you think actually reaches the intended needy? That's not scummy at all, nonprofits are allowed to pay employees a salary. The tax forms are publicly available, you can see exactly how much money is left.
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May 4, 2019 23:31
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Can't believe this shithead does fundraising for charity. You guys really need to settle down.
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May 4, 2019 23:42
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Can't believe this shithead does fundraising for charity. I see he's paying himself 6 figures and has been giving himself a 10-20K raise each year. No wonder he isn't writing.
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al-azad posted:That's not scummy at all, nonprofits are allowed to pay employees a salary. The tax forms are publicly available, you can see exactly how much money is left. The point is that he's acting as a funnel to other charities that are actually doing things. He's a glorified middle man that collects money because a certain class of nerds love endorsing nerd venues over venues that get poo poo done. I don't think he's horrible for doing so, but let's call a spade a spade.
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al-azad posted:So uh I’m quoting this 2 month old post to say that Rothfuss is indeed a creepy weirdo. I was at a convention and a recent acquaintance, a woman half his age, geeked out upon meeting him and invited him to sit and talk at a table with other fans. He offered her a private chat in his hotel room with the promise of ice cream. She says no at which point he promptly about faces leaving a trail of dust and beard hair behind him, just total cold shoulder.
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