Cynic Jester posted:

2019: Moving to Germany to dodge the Nazis.

Kidney Stone posted:

Like the worst übermensch ever. If his party gets any influence in the parliament, wife and I have talked about moving to the Harz in Germany.

KozmoNaut posted:

Just don't move to Thuringia or Saxony, or anywhere in Bavaria for that matter.

Kidney Stone posted:

Nay, it'll be somewhere in Niedersachsen - close to the in-laws.

DN ledare posted:

Antifascistisk aktion, Afa, är en del av den autonoma vänster som av Säpo pekas ut som ett av de tre stora hoten mot demokratin i Sverige. Medan de våldsbejakande islamisterna använder terrordåd präglas vit makt-miljön och de autonoma av ”våld, hot och trakasserier för att avskaffa eller ändra vårt demokratiska styrelseskick” (Säpos årsbok 2018).

Att en hyllning av en sådan grupp dyker upp på en kampanjbild, vilket Aftonbladet avslöjade, hade lett till krishantering på överväxel i ett normaldemokratiskt parti. Affischerna hade makulerats, pudlarna strömmat tätare än i en cirkusmanege. Vänsterpartiet? Nej, där tas antidemokratiska budskap med största ro.

Vänsterpartiets kampanjaffisch.
Vänsterpartiets kampanjaffisch.
”Det är inte ett problem att folk är antifascister (...) Men vi har ingen längtan att göra reklam för en annan organisation”, sa kommunikationschefen Marie Antman. Som om problemet var att en Pepsitröja råkat glimta förbi i den senaste Cokereklamen. Som om V inte haft något att invända om det dykt upp en avdammad IS-brigad och meddelat sin beredskap att ansluta sig till partiets antifascistiska kamp.

Affischerna hade makulerats, pudlarna strömmat tätare än i en cirkusmanege.
Vänsterpartiet kritiseras inte sällan för att det aldrig gjort upp med decennier av diktaturslickande. Då reagerar partister med en särskild sorts darrande underläpp: Vi som bara vill ge barn gratis glasögon och skapa rättvisa genom att ta de rikas pengar, hur kan ni anklaga oss för sådana hemskheter?


Och då finns svaret just här. Bland partiföreträdare som fortfarande inte kan ta avstånd från förtryckarregimer som Kuba och Venezuela och bland talespersoner som svajar och hummar och bräker när de konfronteras med antidemokratiska rörelser. De står ju på rätt sida och är så härligt antifascistiska, kamrat.

badCombina posted:

One day I want a movie made about the apocalypse in sweden due to the bock not being burnt.

Lima posted:

Ugggh hopefully Paludaneren will steal just enough votes from NB that neither of them gets voted in

lilljonas posted:

Some skadegläde while slowly sliding into hellworld: Ulf Kristersson's M is now polling worse than AKB's M did when she was unceremoniously kicked out by her party.

lilljonas posted:

Some skadegläde while slowly sliding into hellworld: Ulf Kristersson's M is now polling worse than AKB's M did when she was unceremoniously kicked out by her party.

Cardiac posted:

Does that actually matter since those voters are currently going KD instead of M?

lilljonas posted:

It one way it doesn't matter.

But in the larger scheme of things it matters in that it follows a current trend with large parties that historically led coalitions being weakened, and you see that in more countries than Sweden. S are also slowly losing votes. With M as weak as they've been lately, they're much less likely to be able to create a consensus for political ideas on the right wing. Compared the current climate to the Alliansen heydays when they basically strongarmed a lot of the parties to only try to influence specific areas that M didn't care as much about. So you'd have Kd pretty much only talk about pensioners, Liberals only talking about education, etc.

M keeps retreating into an area where their competition is either more established (Sd) or more charismatic (EBT being far more popular among populists than the grumpy and uncomfortable Ulf). They're risking becoming more and more irrelevant.

So what's their big political push for the European elections? "Hey here's Tobé saying that we need much fewer immigrants!". Great, the people you're trying to attract already prefer Sd and Kd, and all you're doing is pushing away the few remaining who doesn't agree on leaving traditional M policy in favour of anti-immigrant rhetorics.

Revelation 2-13 posted:

I think the 'the resistance didn't do enough' line, is the most hindsight, safe, armchair-'well I personally would have resisted much more', comfortable view a person can take.

Nenonen posted:

Also resistance and collaboration are not water and oil: Oskar Schindler is the most famous example of an opportunist Nazi businessman in occupied Poland who contributed to the war effort but also saved human lives from Holocaust. People did what they had to to help their families survive, some just had better opportunities to resist. Also some had no qualms in resisting. And finally some were full quislings.

V. Illych L. posted:

what we're taking issue with, katt, is that your go-to examples of fascists being outsized powerful are countries under military occupation and martial law rather than, you know, the obvious examples of italy (at the time of the march on rome mussolini had single-digits support iirc, though the nationalists all-told made something like 20% in the preceding election) or austria or actually germany where the nazis just utterly balooned following the great depression

Cardiac posted:

Who could have predicted that the changes to the Swedish school during the 90s would lead to the current issues? Specifically the municipalization and the free school reforms.
Apparently the OECD.

https://twitter.com/rektorhamid/status/1123360794236919808?s=21
The actual report in the last tweet.

Nenonen posted:

These are interesting points, however we also shouldn't forget that in all of these cases there was a large demographic of WW1 veterans who were widely respected but who felt betrayed, and very shallow constitutional history. Additionally the Russian revolution and failed revolutions in Germany had filled European conservatives with a fear of anything socialist. The political atmosphere was quite different from anything that we have today, eg. support for any type of monarchy where kings wield any political power is laughably low even in the remaining kingdoms.

V. Illych L. posted:

could you possibly tl;dr this? i'm interested but not going to subject myself to the swedish devil tounge or an oecd report i'm not competent to read for it

Katt posted:

He was also greatly persecuted in West Germany as a "Jew lover" after the war. Even to the point where the legal authorities acted against him (judges and officials in West Germany were like 70% former nazis)

quote:

Schindler`s clear indictment of German war criminals in the trials after the war nourished the hatred that many in Germany felt for him. He was persecuted, he was sworn at on the streets, and stones were thrown at him.

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Poil posted:

I was visiting a friend today and where he lives they've thrown up a ton of election posters all over the place. Like every single lamp post. And they're all from KD and their slogan is "make eu lagom again". Because nothing says sophistication, dignity and professionalism like swenglish and trump memes. That's a solid association to create. Maybe M will create a "arbetarpartiet get frihet" poster too.

Fader Movitz posted:

The debate was pretty bad. A weird free for all that had very little to do with the EU. I'd be more interesting if it was actual candidates for the EU parliament that had to talk eu politics. Not the same loving immigration debate again.

24Syv.dk article sub-headline posted:

Rasmus Paludan was in 2015 fined for insulting a cop. In the court, it was revealed that a head injury in 2005 caused a behavioural change with Paludan.