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hobbesmaster posted:uh wtf is going on at 30s, thats C code and ≤ isn't a C operator microsoft decided to hop on the "stupid ligatures programming font" craze and make yet another one
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akadajet posted:microsoft decided to hop on the "stupid ligatures programming font" craze and make yet another one ah i wonder what the first "critical security vulnerability because the programmer used the wrong font" will be
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May 7, 2019 01:11
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Beamed posted:can we talk about them sliding interoperability with java in there as a loving cliff note unless I'm misreading it, it's already something supported through Mono. so the idea is that it'll be supported within .NET Core too. but it's not a new thing.
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May 7, 2019 02:11
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It's hard to get too excited about java interop in 2019 but maybe when people ask how to make a cross platform gui in .dotnet core we can tell them to use javafx now.
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May 7, 2019 02:22
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it sounds like instead u just use uwp or winforms.
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May 7, 2019 02:23
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one .NET exists because MSFT employees are too afraid to admit mono does better at some things and didn't want to use it in their projects so it was easier to rebrand everything
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May 7, 2019 02:28
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Shaggar posted:it sounds like instead u just use uwp or winforms.
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May 7, 2019 02:30
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it seems like maybe they're making them cross platform? or maybe they're just making them run on windows on .net core which I guess why is that even an issue?
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May 7, 2019 02:35
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mystes posted:Neither of those is cross platform. Also I'm not that fond of WPF. and winforms is ancient
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May 7, 2019 02:45
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Shaggar posted:it seems like maybe they're making them cross platform? or maybe they're just making them run on windows on .net core which I guess why is that even an issue? Maybe it has to do with Microsoft's internal politics, too.
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May 7, 2019 02:46
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The_Franz posted:and winforms is ancient mystes fucked around with this message at 02:50 on May 7, 2019 |
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May 7, 2019 02:47
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the vibe I get is that UWP was satya giving the windows org a chance to fail in order to justify chopping them in half and handing the pieces to the office and azure orgs.
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May 7, 2019 02:53
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pram posted:windows is not unix thank goodness
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May 7, 2019 03:03
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can I actually copy paste like every other app written in the last 30 years in this new command line thing
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May 7, 2019 03:11
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:can I actually copy paste like every other app written in the last 30 years in this new command line thing   
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May 7, 2019 03:15
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:can I actually copy paste like every other app written in the last 30 years in this new command line thing you've been able to for going on four years now, so probably
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May 7, 2019 03:17
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brap posted:the vibe I get is that UWP was satya giving the windows org a chance to fail in order to justify chopping them in half and handing the pieces to the office and azure orgs. the right move imo
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May 7, 2019 03:18
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https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/6/18528881/microsoft-edge-macos-mac-browser-teaser-build-2019 why "Mac owners have been waiting to hear more details about when Edge will be available on macOS" man talk about fake news
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May 7, 2019 04:10
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Drastic Actions posted:one .NET exists because MSFT employees are too afraid to admit mono does better at some things and didn't want to use it in their projects mono is garbage and they were right to port framework instead
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May 7, 2019 04:11
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i thought mono was just code for getting knocked up in high school
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May 7, 2019 04:13
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SRQ posted:https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/6/18528881/microsoft-edge-macos-mac-browser-teaser-build-2019 as with most things microsoft is out of touch and hasn't caught on that even apple is writing off macos these days
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May 7, 2019 04:13
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I tried using chedge and greenpos is the wrong color.
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May 7, 2019 05:01
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Shaggar posted:greenpos is the wrong color. we know
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May 7, 2019 05:11
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in chome its wrong which why insane orange yospos users may use the orange version
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May 7, 2019 05:13
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Shaggar posted:in chome its wrong which why insane orange yospos users may use the orange version Ah so Edge is wrong too. Interesting.
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May 7, 2019 06:36
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:can I actually copy paste like every other app written in the last 30 years in this new command line thing isn’t it more of a “home” for poo poo like powershell and cmd rather than a replacement for them?
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May 7, 2019 06:38
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i cant get this loving terminal to build this is bullshit
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May 7, 2019 07:11
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pseudorandom name posted:all that effort reimplementing the Linux ABI from scratch just thrown away pretty sure the history of the picoprocess stuff actually predates wsl by some margin, being something they were fiddling with for weird azure/iot usecases, so i expect it'll stick. they are also not getting rid of the original way of running wsl, as it is a lot more lightweight for single processes (and since it interfaces with very well-defined syscall interfaces on both sides the maintenance effort should be pretty close to zero) all very exciting either way, i do love wsl.
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echinopsis posted:isn’t it more of a “home” for poo poo like powershell and cmd rather than a replacement for them? (incidentally, the source code to conhost is included with the windows terminal source code on github)
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Pardot posted:i cant get this loving terminal to build this is bullshit gave it a go and it built. had to install the .net 4 and 4.5 target and atl beyond what is default in the vs 2017 build tools c++ profile, and the readme has you build all targets (e.g. crosscompile arm64) so go 'MSBuild OpenConsole.sln /p:Configuration=Release /p:Platform=x64' to not need every dependency on earth. while the new terminal seems pretty neat i would suggest not bothering trying to build it unless very curious though, hardly a large leap forward.
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May 7, 2019 12:05
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:gave it a go and it built. had to install the .net 4 and 4.5 target and atl beyond what is default in the vs 2017 build tools c++ profile, and the readme has you build all targets (e.g. crosscompile arm64) so go 'MSBuild OpenConsole.sln /p:Configuration=Release /p:Platform=x64' to not need every dependency on earth. is it more than just the three terminals available in windows but bolted together?
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May 7, 2019 12:33
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spankmeister posted:Ah so Edge is wrong too. Interesting. in chome based edge its wrong. in regular edge its correct
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:can I actually copy paste like every other app written in the last 30 years in this new command line thing Windows has a fairly new feature where if you press win+v it will show you your clipboard history.
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May 7, 2019 13:33
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Hoobastank4ever97 posted:Windows has a fairly new feature where if you press win+v it will show you your clipboard history. uhh.. that sounds like a terrible security flaw to me e: just looked it up and it syncs to MS servers?? jesus lol
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Boiled Water posted:is it more than just the three terminals available in windows but bolted together?
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mystes posted:What thee terminals?
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The Kins posted:assuming he means cmd.exe, powershell and bash or whatever other horrible thing you're putting wsl through (one of the screenshots is midnight commander and some other stuff by way of tmux)
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Last Chance posted:uhh.. that sounds like a terrible security flaw to me it syncs across computers. its super good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbpjLchrYgw&t=3175s ouch!
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:gave it a go and it built. had to install the .net 4 and 4.5 target and atl beyond what is default in the vs 2017 build tools c++ profile, and the readme has you build all targets (e.g. crosscompile arm64) so go 'MSBuild OpenConsole.sln /p:Configuration=Release /p:Platform=x64' to not need every dependency on earth. it would build fine for me but deploying the solution would fail but I figured out my problem was that i wasn't a windows insider. i tried to do that once but it failed and i assumed it was cause they were blocking me. this time it worked, but also i recently joined some internal beta tester thing, so maybe i'm in some security group that allows windows insider or maybe something else was wrong before, i'll never be able to know  but once i did the windows insder and changed to some other version of windows, it all worked. and yeah it wasn't worth all that, but my biggest complaint from now having to use windows now is how bad both the default terminal is and comemu/cmder are, so I really had high hopes for this. it's still a ways off from being released for real so maybe it'll get cool
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