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flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

"A Canadian thread that can talk about politics when there's something political to talk about" seems reasonably serviceable, and the derails usually don't survive the arrival of relevant topics.

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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3847177

Friendly reminder that we have a cspam canpol thread for all things helsing cracks down on :angel:

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.
I like when people post something local to them that hasn’t yet hit national media.

I like when people get wonky about things like above-100% marginal tax rates.

I’ve picked up a couple good book recommendations here and would totally attempt to engage in some kind of book-of-the-two-months thing. Could be history, politics, social justice, media, entertainment; national, provincial, local. Maybe try to pick things where there’s a thread expert on the topic who can answer some dumber questions and point to further reading?

I don’t understand what the debt bubble thread is for. But its existence seems to cause me no harm.

I appreciate bits like Better Know an Alberta Electoral District or les memes Quebecois no matter how thorough or complete.

Overall I think the mods are doing well. Being reasonably but not infinitely patient with off-topic chat seems to go ok. Kicking out unrepentant racists is good.

Many days a week I learn something from this thread that I wouldn’t otherwise, and as dorky as it sounds that’s really cool.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I think some regular chat should be allowed. There are the LAN threads but they're not all very active on day to day local news.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Canpol: Don't be a dick.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Pharaoh, set my posters free.

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
nationalize all posts

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
A vote for less politics

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
First of all: Helsing, thank you for accepting this thankless task and trying to improve our community here.

flakeloaf posted:

"A Canadian thread that can talk about politics when there's something political to talk about" seems reasonably serviceable, and the derails usually don't survive the arrival of relevant topics.

Agreed. If something seems to be seriously loving up the thread then by all means Helsing should deal with that, but it has to be something beyond "it's not strictly about Canadian politics."

Furnaceface posted:

Trying to balance good and bad news seems like a fools errand and anyone that posts here at all is going to see through any attempts to try and change the tone of our hellish new political landscape.

This does not seem like a helpful attitude. Like, maybe just instead of focusing exclusively on the bad poo poo that's going on, we could try focusing on some of the work that people are doing to stop it? Alberta had student walkouts last week in response to Kenney's GSA bullshit, for example, and I didn't see anyone here mentioning it. We don't need to simply accept that poo poo is going to go from bad to worse and there's nothing anyone can do in response.

TGRS had/has a rule where you can't post unrelentingly negative poo poo except in a quarantine thread, because relevant or not, it's not good to be exposed to the constant deluge of terrible poo poo that occurs in our world without respite. So, you know, maybe our political landscape is hosed right now. But there are still good things happening in this country, and even if they aren't, strictly speaking, of great importance, maybe we should talk about them anyway and celebrate them and derive pleasure from them, if for no other reason than to help us deal with the bad poo poo.

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

Franks Happy Place posted:

Clapping for a landing is at least somewhat justifiable by the fact that the pilot is right there. It's like thanking your bus driver as you get off, I guess?

People could just thank the pilot/crew as they get off the plane. I can't remember a single flight I have taken where the pilot/copilot wasn't right by the door when I got off.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

flakeloaf posted:

The people who sincerely clap in time with a song can gently caress off. The people who sincerely clap in time with a song, but on odd-numbered beats, can gently caress off twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD3iaURppQw

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

EvidenceBasedQuack posted:

Have you guys signed the GND Pact yet?
https://greennewdealcanada.ca

Because if the US can turn a profit and get univeral health care plus a jobs guarantee, I don't see how a Canadian plan wouldn't be beneficial. And as was argued ITT, it would cost more to do nothing.

Thanks, I signed it. That said, I am disappointed that Canada seems really behind on a Green New Deal movement. The sunrise movement is offering weekly training sessions for anyone wanting to organize and the Canadian Leap people have a section for “Get Involved” which is just signing a couple of petitions.

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

It’s a cynical space, but there nevertheless is a lot of knowledge in this thread. Maybe I’ve just Stockholmed myself after 8 years or whatever, but I like the cross-section of posters this thread/CanPol C-SPAM brings in. I will always be in favour of trying to encourage more high-effortish/good-faith posting, but I don’t have any original suggestions about how to make that happen.

All that said I admit I suddenly feel the urge to figure out what it takes to earn a helsing sixer.

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

Something between this



and this



with some (more) coy, liberal vagaries attached.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Nothing but images of Michael Ignatieff and Preston Manning

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Looks like the Greens might take the Nanaimo Ladysmith riding helped in part by the Liberals dropping from 2nd place, to 4th and a NDP decline as well.

thehoodie
Feb 8, 2011

"Eat something made with love and joy - and be forgiven"

Femtosecond posted:

Looks like the Greens might take the Nanaimo Ladysmith riding helped in part by the Liberals dropping from 2nd place, to 4th and a NDP decline as well.

Looks like a pretty sure thing at this point.

SilverMike
Sep 17, 2007

TBD


On the other hand, turnout is cratering because less people give a gently caress about an election when they just have to vote again in another six months.

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Big green vote partly because the greens absolutely cratered in the provincial by-election and the people who really wanted to vote green there but went NDP strategically (because government was on the line) are making up for it now that the pressure is off.

Greens are gonna have a good election in the fall in BC and perhaps nationwide, boosted by a lot of Liberals holding their nose. Kinda like how they did provincially.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Personally I don't mind that this thread is sometimes a chat thread when there's a lull between political news stories. It's always seemed to me to be not just the place to talk about Canadian politics, but also the place where Canadian politics junkies hang out and talk about other stuff, and I think that's fine. I think on the whole we usually strike a good balance between talking about the news, talking about random stuff, and occasional effortposts and more in-depth discussion, even if it's sometimes a bit weird when two of those posting genres are happening at the same time.

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
I could go for a Nanaimo-Ladysmith right about now. That sounds tasty.

e: for thread improvements, I think maybe a bit more positivity could help when and where it's warranted. I'll try and be some of that change when I can, I suppose. I mostly just find poo poo in the news or on Twitter and bring it out for people to laugh or get angry at because my own analytical skills are not amazing.

HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 07:26 on May 7, 2019

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum

Tighclops posted:

nationalize all posts

In celebration of us taking control of our local fates, a meme just for Helsing.



(RIP the briefly progressive past of the Quebec Liberal party)

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

infernal machines posted:

Nothing but images of Michael Ignatieff and Preston Manning

I will never stop posting Stockwell Day on his jetski. :colbert:

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Helsing posted:

Yeah, upon reflection, I think Michael Ignatieff was our Jeb!

Please Rise Up

infernal machines posted:

Nothing but images of Michael Ignatieff and Preston Manning

A mission to collect the various images of himself that Harper used to replace pictures of past Prime Ministers.

Franks Happy Place
Mar 15, 2011

It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.
IMO the "debt bubble" is starting to pop, which makes the topic something that is likely to become explicitly political and therefore relevant to the main thread.

On the other hand the debt thread is about making fun of dumb Canadian debtlords which is good and cool but also pretty negative in tone so if you want this thread to be more positive that may not be a good move

Ok thanks for listening

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Femtosecond posted:

Looks like the Greens might take the Nanaimo Ladysmith riding helped in part by the Liberals dropping from 2nd place, to 4th and a NDP decline as well.

NDP coming in third in a seat they held four months ago is the bigger embarrassment. With those margins Greens can also walk to reelection there in the fall.

I half expect the party leadership to use this as an excuse to pull back on the Green New Deal talk as well.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

DynamicSloth posted:

NDP coming in third in a seat they held four months ago is the bigger embarrassment. With those margins Greens can also walk to reelection there in the fall.

I half expect the party leadership to use this as an excuse to pull back on the Green New Deal talk as well.

"We lost to the Liberals, better talk more like the Liberals to attract their voters."
"We lost to the Greens, better avoid talking about the environment to attract their voters".

Sounds like the NDP to me.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

"A thing happened... move to the right" is basically the modern NDP.

The only negative things I hear about the BCNDP, even among non-lefts, is that they "haven't done anything" and "keep waiting around" regarding housing and money laundering. People want to see cansino managers being frog-marched out, people want to see $3 million dollar student penthouses bought with literal bags of money laundered the same day through a casino seized, people want to see... anything, something. People voted the BCNDP in on a wave of anger about housing and the financial corruption and crimes related to it and were really expecting to see some heads roll.

EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity

Helsing posted:

Current issues I would love to hear people's thoughts on:

--There are currently two Canada focused threads. Not everyone thinks the debt thread warrants its own thread. How do people here feel about it? Is it worthwhile to keep two parallel threads or is it possible we'd have more to talk about here if we merged the two discussions?

--Mental health issues. I think the ChairMaster drama was a timely reminder that mental health is a serious issue that touches us all, and the energy we project into threads like this one does have implications for our collective mental health. Is that a problem that is worth trying to address? Should we strive to include more positive content in the thread or is that just a waste of time in our broken hellworld? Does it make sense to aim for a balance of positive and negative discussion / news or is that goal just inherently vacuous?

--(Lack of) Politics chat. Sometimes this thread feels more like the all purpose Canada chat thread rather than the Canadian politics thread. Maybe that's ok though. Do people want to try and encourage more regular discussion of politics and if so does anyone have any ideas on how we could encourage that kind of discussion?

Longtime lurker/infrequent poster here. Take my input with a grain of salt..

Debt thread: I'm echoing earlier comments about not increasing the amount of negativity and/or cynicism ITT

Mental health: positivity is great, but there's a lot to be angry about. I think how that anger is channeled makes a great difference. Ideas and constructive criticism go a long way vs. snide remarks. OTOH I realize this is a comedy website. I appreciate you taking the time to ask these questions :)

Politics chat vs. beer/keg/food: I don't mind some of it because it amuses me, but keeping the thread about politics is good. I think we've been doing better but maybe it's just me not paying attention.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.
On local radio this morning there's been a bit of chat about the by-election results but most of the coverage so far has been about Canada Post's loving up the image of a Nanaimo Bar on their latest stamp.

Which they did, admittedly. We have our priorities.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

That custard to crust ratio is a national travesty.

I will say the general lack of federal politics kinda sucks, in favour of a revolving door of onpol and bertapol, but that could just be seasonal. I wasn't around for the last federal election. How bad was it? :ohdear:

Will also echo wrt mental health stuff: The world can be a gently caress, be excellent to eachother.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




How do you gently caress up a nanaimo bar?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

That's a very good question. Like 5 seconds on google image search comes up with entirely consistent depictions of how it should look. I think it honestly comes down to WESTERN ALIENATION.

Independant Vancouver Island colony until we get the respect we deserve from Ottawa.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Aces High posted:

How do you gently caress up a nanaimo bar?

In a brawl with a bunch of drunken hicks?

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Stickarts posted:


All that said I admit I suddenly feel the urge to figure out what it takes to earn a helsing sixer.

I'm as curious as you are.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Baronjutter posted:

That's a very good question. Like 5 seconds on google image search comes up with entirely consistent depictions of how it should look. I think it honestly comes down to WESTERN ALIENATION.

Independant Vancouver Island colony until we get the respect we deserve from Ottawa.

Google is showing me a lot of variation, some similar to that stamp in fact, but that is indeed way too much custard compared to the other layers.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Helsing posted:

I'm as curious as you are.

Well we have to make sure the button works. You know, for science.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Someone make an effort OP and gently caress the guy with the Australian avatar who did otherwise

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
My wife was in Toronto late last week and she said she ran across protesters who were being yelled at by Bikers in MAGA hats

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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

DariusLikewise posted:

Someone make an effort OP and gently caress the guy with the Australian avatar who did otherwise

lol I was going to make one when the last thread got closed but ended up losing all motivation when this one already existed. This one's fine for now imo, I'll make a new one when we're actually close to the federal election.

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