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Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Rhyno posted:

Excellent. I'll probably head over to BB on Monday to check it out in person.

For what it’s worth it looks pretty wonky until you calibrate it. At least mine did. I’m basically using the default rtings settings for the tv and it looks very nice.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/6-series-r617-2018/settings

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namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

American McGay posted:

I'm not sure the exact differences of the E series compared to the C series but it might just be casing/speakers, which may or may not be particularly important to you. If you like the look of the TV then that's a decent enough deal, but if you look around you should be able to find a C series for ~300 cheaper and the panel portion of the TV will be exactly the same.

Thanks very much for the input. We are going to take a look at one in person and see if it makes sense after a 24 hour cool down :)

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real
Someone needs to change the thread title to "Just get the TCL or the LG OLED"

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Rhyno posted:

I'm a little out of touch with TVs these days, what are the best bang for the buck options in the 65" 4K neighborhood? I actually need it to fit in a 68" wide section of the wall so I'm not sure if a 70" would fit there or not.
I'm not recommending this television per se, but for reference purposes this 75" TCL is just under 66" wide. So if you're confident in your measurements you can get 33% more screen area in there compared to a 65" television.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

tetrapyloctomy posted:

I'm not recommending this television per se, but for reference purposes this 75" TCL is just under 66" wide. So if you're confident in your measurements you can get 33% more screen area in there compared to a 65" television.

That might be a bit insane for the space. My viewing distance isnt quite far enough to make that worthwhile either.

Maybe in the living room!

FateFree
Nov 14, 2003

Question - my whole life I've been routing my home theater inputs into a receiver, and an hdmi out to the TV. However I just bought a Samsung Q90, and it has an external input box and a universal smart remote and I'm wondering, should I be reversing my initial idea and instead on super smart tvs, insert all the inputs into the tv, and have a single ARC out to my receiver? Is this blasphemous? It seems to make sense but I want to ask before I go through with it all..

The Big Bad Worf
Jan 26, 2004
Quad-greatness

FateFree posted:

Question - my whole life I've been routing my home theater inputs into a receiver, and an hdmi out to the TV. However I just bought a Samsung Q90, and it has an external input box and a universal smart remote and I'm wondering, should I be reversing my initial idea and instead on super smart tvs, insert all the inputs into the tv, and have a single ARC out to my receiver? Is this blasphemous? It seems to make sense but I want to ask before I go through with it all..


Samsung smart TVs in particular have really aggressive automatic device detection that really doesn't like it when the device connected to an HDMI port changes. I don't have hands-on experience with the Q90, but the Q6FN I have will try to figure out what device just got plugged in or swapped out if I change anything, and this also comes with a bonus factory reset on the picture options for that input.

You will probably find that you have to fiddle with the fewest things possible if you connect as many things as you can directly to the TV. Be advised that the capabilities of what you hear and what you see will be determined by the least capable device in the chain - I don't think Samsung TVs are yet equipped to pass through DTS/Dolby Atmos or other high end audio streams via ARC or Optical audio, and if you have an older receiver, it may not pass through 4k video or HDR signals to the TV.

halokiller
Dec 28, 2008

Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves


Astro7x posted:

Someone needs to change the thread title to "Just get the TCL or the LG OLED"

Sony's still the best non-OLED TVs to get right?

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.

halokiller posted:

Sony's still the best non-OLED TVs to get right?

Yep.

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

halokiller posted:

Sony's still the best non-OLED TVs to get right?
Depending on your usage needs it's the best panel available, but the price also reflects that.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
I just picked up one of these for $925 in Canada and its a hell of a TV for the price. Huge upgrade over the 49" inch Avera 4K TV with no HDR capabilities I previously had. Anyone else had any experience with the higher end Hisense models?

The RTings review I read seems to mention this TV has some brightness issues but I haven't really noticed them yet but I am coming up from a really cheap 4K and saved around $250-$300 on this vs a TCL 6.

https://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/details.aspx?categoryId=0&productId=41999&sku=65H9908

Le Saboteur fucked around with this message at 19:42 on May 6, 2019

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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My TV is not here yet and I have no idea where it is because the shitass shipping company my seller used doesn’t have a functional tracking system. Also they get mad if you ask them for an update because apparently that’s an unreasonable request in the year of our lord 2019.

where my TV at :shepface:

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

gently caress em. Email them twice a day asking for an update.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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Has anybody itt ever dealt with AM Trucking before or know how to get them to give me a shipping update or an ETA?

Something Offal
Jan 12, 2018

by FactsAreUseless


This is the most parody-seeming non-parody map I've seen. What does it even mean?

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
I expect your TV may no longer be your TV.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

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Something Offal posted:



This is the most parody-seeming non-parody map I've seen. What does it even mean?

The Service Maps link is loving useless. It says “Click a state for terminal details” (what “terminal details” is supposed to tell me I have no loving idea), but when you click a state, nothing happens.

The Tracking link is equally useless. All it does is give you a date two weeks out that your poo poo is supposed to be delivered by, which tells you loving nothing at all. I have no idea where my package is right now, and none of the other buttons seem to do anything.

... actually I take that last part back. There’s an “Email Tracing Link” button that MIGHT tell me where my package is right this second, but according to that, my package was last in New York and it doesn’t say when the gently caress that was.

I’m thinking about leaving this eBay seller a bad review just because their choice of shipper is loving unacceptable. It’s 2019. My rear end should be pampered 24/7 with up-to-the-second shipping updates for my huge $1400 superTV.

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
Oh no a bad review. :ohdear:

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug
If you google consumer reviews on AM Trucking you'll find an impressive litany of "worst shipping company ever" complaints.

I hope you get your TV someday.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
I had some questions about calibrating a TV out of the box so for mine I used the RTings calibration settings here as I believe this is the US version of my TV: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/h9e-plus/settings

Now I've never calibrated a TV before just kind of messed with the settings until I got some semblance of what I thought was right. The result of RTings calibrations seems to have produced a much warmer image, but the colours don't seem quite as vibrant as they did out of the box. But they were possibly too vibrant straight out the box. Just wondering if this is kind of the effect you expect when going through a calibration?

I think the image overall will be more pleasing to the eye over time, it just feels a bit weird right now as the calibration changed quite a bit.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Le Saboteur posted:

I had some questions about calibrating a TV out of the box so for mine I used the RTings calibration settings here as I believe this is the US version of my TV: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/hisense/h9e-plus/settings

Now I've never calibrated a TV before just kind of messed with the settings until I got some semblance of what I thought was right. The result of RTings calibrations seems to have produced a much warmer image, but the colours don't seem quite as vibrant as they did out of the box. But they were possibly too vibrant straight out the box. Just wondering if this is kind of the effect you expect when going through a calibration?

I think the image overall will be more pleasing to the eye over time, it just feels a bit weird right now as the calibration changed quite a bit.

I literally came here to post a realization I just had after a week with my new TCL so I’m going to reply to you with it.

Calibrate your tv to the rtings calibration and wait a week. Pay attention to things you notice about the picture but don’t overthink and try to adjust as little as possible. I 100% guarantee you that your perception of it will be much clearer and you won’t have that A/B comparison jumbled vision. The first few days while you’re messing with the calibration after seeing the stock settings aren’t going to tell you anything because our eyes and brains are weird and bullshit us. The rtings people are very good at what they do and I’m speaking as someone who has been very not into the idea of a “best” calibration like you can find around the internet.

Kilometers Davis fucked around with this message at 05:21 on May 7, 2019

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

American McGay posted:

The perfect way to calibrate your new TV is to not listen to what anyone says online and sit down for 20 minutes one day flipping through every available setting until you get a picture that you like and then just keep it on that picture setting regardless of content or input or any other factor. You don't need one setting for sports and one for movies and one for daytime TV. Just find something that looks good to you and literally never change it after.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Agree with the above. Get the motion and color space settings right, brightness and contrast levels so your white and black points aren’t all over the place then never worry about it again. I was worried when I put a receiver back in my chain that running all my devices through one HDMI input would screw me as I couldn’t fine tune each thing and that was the dumbest thing that ever entered my brain.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Number_6 posted:

If you google consumer reviews on AM Trucking you'll find an impressive litany of "worst shipping company ever" complaints.

I hope you get your TV someday.

If I haven’t gotten the TV or a sufficient update on its whereabouts by Friday, I may just return it again and reorder it from this place instead.

https://www.abesofmaine.com/LG_Electronics_OLED55C8PUA_55-Inch_4K_Ultra_HD_Smart_OLED_TV_1037037.html

Same price as eBay, AND they have an express shipping option, which eBay doesn’t.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Question,

I was cross checking the TCL
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-65-class-led-6-series-2160p-smart-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr-roku-tv/6204551.p?skuId=6204551

on Amazon as I have $142 in gift card credit there. The search turned up this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0798B2L5H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oKs0CbR0S33M2

What's the real difference between them?

Edit: Between the 5 and 6 series I guess?

Rhyno fucked around with this message at 14:14 on May 7, 2019

LordOfThePants
Sep 25, 2002

AM Trucking delivered my C8. I got an automated phone call (and text) about two days before delivery asking me to confirm a delivery window (mine was 6-10pm on a Friday).

The day of delivery, they called at the beginning of the window (again, automated). The driver called me a couple of times to give me an ETA. I got a few more automated update calls that evening.

They ended up showing up pretty late, like 9:30, with the TV. Two guys that looked very sketchy but were polite. They pulled the screen out, powered it on to confirm it worked, and then boxed it up. I signed for it and they took off.

I’m pretty sure they drove 2-3 hours (one way) to deliver just my TV. I live out in the middle of nowhere so if you’re in an urban area the service may be better.

Phera
Nov 11, 2007
Dead from the neck up.

I. M. Gei posted:

If I haven’t gotten the TV or a sufficient update on its whereabouts by Friday, I may just return it again and reorder it from this place instead.

https://www.abesofmaine.com/LG_Electronics_OLED55C8PUA_55-Inch_4K_Ultra_HD_Smart_OLED_TV_1037037.html

Same price as eBay, AND they have an express shipping option, which eBay doesn’t.

Newegg also has a sale on a bunch of the 2018 LG OLEDs this week if you or anyone else are interested.

55" C8 for $1299 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889007646

55" B8 for $1049 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIAJKJ8JF8704

55" E8 for $1349 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIAJKJ8J41164

65" B8 for $1699 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9KB8S06050&Description=lg%2065%20b8&cm_re=lg_65_b8-_-89-007-664-_-Product

65" C8 for $1849 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889007642

All pricematchable with Best Buy but the stores might not have any in stock still. They offered to order and deliver it for me but I just decided to go with Newegg.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Phera posted:

Newegg also has a sale on a bunch of the 2018 LG OLEDs this week if you or anyone else are interested.

55" C8 for $1299 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889007646

55" B8 for $1049 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIAJKJ8JF8704

55" E8 for $1349 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIAJKJ8J41164

65" B8 for $1699 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9KB8S06050&Description=lg%2065%20b8&cm_re=lg_65_b8-_-89-007-664-_-Product

65" C8 for $1849 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889007642

All pricematchable with Best Buy but the stores might not have any in stock still. They offered to order and deliver it for me but I just decided to go with Newegg.

Holy poo poo. :stare:

It’d require a 3-hour drive, but if I go the Best Buy price match route I could have both my new TVs at my house TODAY. I could totally swing that. I don’t have gently caress else going on today.

Phera
Nov 11, 2007
Dead from the neck up.

I. M. Gei posted:

Holy poo poo. :stare:

It’d require a 3-hour drive, but if I go the Best Buy price match route I could have both my new TVs at my house TODAY. I could totally swing that. I don’t have gently caress else going on today.

You may want to call ahead and make sure they have it in stock and that they'll price match. Newegg came up on their computers for them to price match for me but I'd hate for you to make a 3 hour drive for nothing.

Monday_
Feb 18, 2006

Worked-up silent dork without sex ability seeks oblivion and demise.
The Great Twist
re: calibration

If you're a huge dork like me you can buy a colorimeter and have more fun loving around with the settings on your TV than actually watching it.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Phera posted:

You may want to call ahead and make sure they have it in stock and that they'll price match. Newegg came up on their computers for them to price match for me but I'd hate for you to make a 3 hour drive for nothing.

BestBuy.com says Newegg is on their list of online companies they do price matching with, so I think I’m good.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I have a colorimeter because I'm a huge dork but also because I'm colorblind so it's basically the only way I can get things accurate.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Rhyno posted:

Question,

I was cross checking the TCL
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-65-class-led-6-series-2160p-smart-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr-roku-tv/6204551.p?skuId=6204551

on Amazon as I have $142 in gift card credit there. The search turned up this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0798B2L5H/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oKs0CbR0S33M2

What's the real difference between them?

Edit: Between the 5 and 6 series I guess?

Just look at this comparison.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/tcl-r617-vs-tcl-s517/613/619?usage=7318&threshold=0.1

5 Series doesn't have local dimming due to an edge back light instead of full array. The Peak Brightness is also not at good as the 6 series, so you're not going to be able to see the beauty of HDR

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Astro7x posted:

Just look at this comparison.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/tcl-r617-vs-tcl-s517/613/619?usage=7318&threshold=0.1

5 Series doesn't have local dimming due to an edge back light instead of full array. The Peak Brightness is also not at good as the 6 series, so you're not going to be able to see the beauty of HDR

Outstanding, thank you.

So one last dumb question, what's different between the 65R615 and the 65R617? The 5 being the Best Buy model and the 7 being the Amazon model. Just different numbers for different retailers?

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Rhyno posted:

Outstanding, thank you.

So one last dumb question, what's different between the 65R615 and the 65R617? The 5 being the Best Buy model and the 7 being the Amazon model. Just different numbers for different retailers?

The 617 has some voice control. That's it.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

GreenNight posted:

The 617 has some voice control. That's it.

Oh I don't care about any of that.

So Best Buy has 24 months no interest so I guess I'll just buy it.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Rhyno posted:

Outstanding, thank you.

So one last dumb question, what's different between the 65R615 and the 65R617? The 5 being the Best Buy model and the 7 being the Amazon model. Just different numbers for different retailers?

R615 is an IR Remote, R617 is a Wifi Direct remote. The difference is that the IR must point at the TV (sound bar may mess with the signal like with mine), and the WiFi direct you can just press the button.

You can always buy the Wifi Direct remote from the Roku website if you don't like the IR remote, costs about $35 w/ shipping

https://www.roku.com/products/accessories/roku-tv

Edit: I see the Best Buy model with worse remote is $20 less, so take the chance and know you're out $15 if you decide to upgrade the remote later

Something Offal
Jan 12, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

GreenNight posted:

The 617 has some voice control. That's it.

Also the remote is really crappy IR instead of RF. I considered paying $50 more for the non-crap model, but I stuck with Best Buy. If it was a $2k TV I would've spent extra for the RF remote but I don't care enough at this price point.

It does bug me though. An obvious fix is to get an IR blasting universal Harmony.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Something Offal posted:

Also the remote is really crappy IR instead of RF. I considered paying $50 more for the non-crap model, but I stuck with Best Buy. If it was a $2k TV I would've spent extra for the RF remote but I don't care enough at this price point.

It does bug me though. An obvious fix is to get an IR blasting universal Harmony.

My sound bar blocks the IR receiver, so I quickly realized I had to hold my hand up in the air every time to use the remote and got really loving tired of it. It's probably one of the worse IR remotes I've ever used. It's not like the sensor is blocked. I can see it when sitting on my couch, but unless the remote has a direct line of sight it won't work.

It's still probably cheaper to get the WiFi Direct remote from Roku's website than a Harmony remote

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Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

I. M. Gei posted:

My TV is not here yet and I have no idea where it is because the shitass shipping company my seller used doesn’t have a functional tracking system. Also they get mad if you ask them for an update because apparently that’s an unreasonable request in the year of our lord 2019.

where my TV at :shepface:

I. M. Gei posted:

My TV is coming “on or before” May 16th gently caress THAT I WANT IT NOW NOW NOW NOOOOOOW

Hi. You sound like a spoiled child. If you got a decent price on a TV online one of the caveats is you might have to wait a while for delivery.

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