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Phigs posted:I don't know what you're talking about. I farm Manics for fun.  If only they were tradeable, I do a lot of Kuva Survival. I don't have the Smoky Ephemera yet.
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endlessmonotony posted:Twenty minutes, give or take. Actually easier soloing with Trinity, but just oh-so-goddamn tedious. It was kinda fun, actually. v  vLike, it's not a 120 second capture mission of course, but it's still faster than a single 10 wave defense alert used to take, and faster than even the quickest infsalv ROT C run. RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 14:19 on May 7, 2019 |
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I think I'm just going to buy Khora at some point if the next few NSOs leave me hanging. I play NSO once in a blue moon and I can't help but focus on getting the Khora BP because it is literally the only part I am missing and it's getting frustrating. Plus, I don't like how much cat juice she takes to make, farming kitties in the Derelict is not my idea of fun and Nightwave hasn't given me the option to buy cat juice (yet?)
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May 7, 2019 14:35
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Ritznit posted:I think I'm just going to buy Khora at some point if the next few NSOs leave me hanging. I play NSO once in a blue moon and I can't help but focus on getting the Khora BP because it is literally the only part I am missing and it's getting frustrating. Plus, I don't like how much cat juice she takes to make, farming kitties in the Derelict is not my idea of fun and Nightwave hasn't given me the option to buy cat juice (yet?) never yet, they increased the rate for scans instead
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May 7, 2019 14:51
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njsykora posted:Kreska is a machete. It does not break the trend of all machetes being terrible. and every time i have to bring up that cyclone kraken makes machetes some of the best melee in the game because people never seem to get this
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May 7, 2019 15:05
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:vay hek's no more difficult than any other low level boss. you can skip the first couple phases by simply running past him, then delete him in the last room. Vay Hek is like level 35 when most of the early bosses at level 10 and he's accessible much earlier than any other level 35 content, he's like the most awful newbie-destroying boss in the game.
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May 7, 2019 15:06
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Goa Tse-tung posted:never yet, they increased the rate for scans instead I meant specifically as a replacement for the rare but always welcome cat juice alerts we used to get. Nightwave has no replacement for that so far.
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May 7, 2019 15:18
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Johnny Joestar posted:and every time i have to bring up that cyclone kraken makes machetes some of the best melee in the game because people never seem to get this Cyclone Kraken is so interesting to me because it proves that stance design is honestly as important as the weapons themselves
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May 7, 2019 15:20
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When Nightwave came in DE specifically said they increased cat scan rate as compensation for losing the alerts. They weren't planning to ever add it to Nightwave.Tuxedo Catfish posted:Vay Hek is like level 35 when most of the early bosses at level 10 and he's accessible much earlier than any other level 35 content, he's like the most awful newbie-destroying boss in the game. Yeah my memory of him is from when I fought him as a newbie and it was real rough and took forever (didn't know you could skip the earlier phases). Knowing the skip I guess he won't be too bad and I can just clown on him now.
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Johnny Joestar posted:and every time i have to bring up that cyclone kraken makes machetes some of the best melee in the game because people never seem to get this Wukong + Cyclone Machete?
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May 7, 2019 16:03
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Ritznit posted:I meant specifically as a replacement for the rare but always welcome cat juice alerts we used to get. Nightwave has no replacement for that so far.
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May 7, 2019 16:17
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Yeah, I really like the Kreska. It looks awesome and Cyclone Kraken is a super fun stance and I'd probably use it even if the weapon sucked.
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Phigs posted:When Nightwave came in DE specifically said they increased cat scan rate as compensation for losing the alerts. They weren't planning to ever add it to Nightwave. e: beaten
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May 7, 2019 16:24
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That's sad but makes sense.  Thank you. I still dislike scanning cats, sadly.
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May 7, 2019 16:51
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This came up in alliance chat last night. 1.) Get a Heliocor. 2.) Smack cat with Heliocor. 3.) Grofit. That or run a Vauban and give 'em the ol' Bastille.
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May 7, 2019 17:04
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Yeah Heliocor improves the scanning process itself, I mean more the "run around in a lovely, confusing tileset to maybe find a cat" aspect of it.
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May 7, 2019 17:33
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Nezha's spikes will hold them still (but the green scanner overlay will be in the wrong place). I mostly say this as I used Nezha for solo vault runs, so you can just keep an eye out for kavats while doing those.
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May 7, 2019 17:33
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what's the helicor and is it tradeable? I really hate doing synthesis hunts and half the time it's a nightmare...since i keep dying when a bunch of enemies gang up on me...and no, adding range on excal does not help me one bit.
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May 7, 2019 17:41
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Heliocor is the melee weapon that scans stuff when you kill it. Its tradeable.
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But it doesn't work at all for synthesis targets.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Heliocor is the melee weapon that scans stuff when you kill it. Its tradeable. THANK RNGESUS! well in that case i'll ask around for it. endlessmonotony posted:But it doesn't work at all for synthesis targets. that's okay i guess. i just wanna scan more normal enemies to tryout my builds on.
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There's a Synoid Heliocor from Suda which is tradable (and I thiiink it still scans?) but the Simaris one is not tradable. If you are hunting a synth target, then you'll want something to make you tough or invisible. Radial Blind... might not cut it depnding on your mod loadout. Obviously it's easier if you are tough enough to just facetank low level enemies regardless, but that's a different matter. Rhino or Nezha are clearly handy here for both toughness and CC. Also, kind of obviously, buy and use the Kinetic Siphon Traps to hold the target still. In case people haven't pointed out yet, armour only affects Health, so while shields seem nice at first, boosting your shields scales really badly. And Team Health Restores are cheap enough to make and hotkeyable. EDIT : And and, there's a Steam Guide of where spawns various targets. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=666483447 And and and, you can just scan enemies with the Sim scanner for rep up to your daily limit if you don't want to do his tasks but obviously this is generally slower unless you are stealth scanning high end grineer.
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Ritznit posted:That's sad but makes sense. but before nightwave/kitty jeans drop rate i cought like 2 cat alerts total and had to farm up my first smeeta in dozens of hours over the course of weeks and was sitting on 4-6 in my inventory. It was painfully slow and cat alerts happened about once ever 2 months. and then after the drop rate change i got a login resource doubler, grouped with someone who was running chance booster, used a sleepinox+upgraded simaris scanner while running with my OG smeeta and basically grabbed 5-10 for a single 8 minute vault hunt (and twice that when i did it during the resource doubler weekend). You don't even have to kill any cats in the process, unless you're a disgusting inhuman monster. I stopped at a round number after only an hour or two, and now i'm sitting on 100+ genes i don't quite know what to do with - build my 4 unbuilt khora sets? wait until the new kavat breeds are released (roughly 2025)? Try to find a glitch that lets me stick them into an incubator with a kubrow imprint (again)? Long story short, getting cat genes has become so much easier, which is good, because everyone should have a kitty as soon as possible.
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Tylana posted:There's a Synoid Heliocor from Suda which is tradable (and I thiiink it still scans?) but the Simaris one is not tradable. How is the Simaris one not tradeable? Ugh. Anyways, the pro move is using the sentinel with the innate ability to scan and let him do his thing while you fashion frame through a mission.
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Fruity20 posted:that's okay i guess. i just wanna scan more normal enemies to tryout my builds on. As Jobbo_Fett says, go to the dojo research stations and buy a blueprint for Helios, the sentinel companion who uses Codex Scanners for you. Never have to scan enemies or objects for your codex again. (He'll only scan targets you haven't maxed out your codex entry on, so he's bad at space cats, plant gathering, and synthesis, but two of those three are stuff that you don't really need to be worrying about if you're still using your first-day Excalibur.) If you can't afford the construction cost, save up 30k, get a goon to taxi you to the Index, and just play keepaway and stay alive while they carry you through the match. Fast credits. As for synthesis, it gets pretty easy after you rank up a tanky frame. You can assemble Rhino, the beginner-friendly supertank, from the boss of Venus. Put armor and intensity mods on him and use his Iron Skin ability. You still generally want to clear most of a crowd out before chasing the synthesis target, but the target has bonus health so it's hard to accidentally kill it. Note that one of Simaris's items for sale is a module that gives you infinite synthesis scanners. Handy.
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I did the new strange quest today (quest that introduces synthesis scanning) and eeeehhh that is a mechanic I do not like
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el dingo posted:I did the new strange quest today (quest that introduces synthesis scanning) and eeeehhh that is a mechanic I do not like Good news! You basically only need to do it when you're trying to get stuff from Simaris' shop (get the infinite scanners and double scans widgets) and more importantly you unlocked the best places to level gear. Simaris dailies are a good early source of endo though, and there's some tasty lore in the personal scan projects.
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I just scan cats while doing vault runs on rhino. You can stomp the whole spawn of them and scan them before the stomp runs out if you've got any duration at all. And having the extinguished key on makes it harder to kill them on accident.
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NecroMonster posted:I just scan cats while doing vault runs on rhino. You can stomp the whole spawn of them and scan them before the stomp runs out if you've got any duration at all. And having the extinguished key on makes it harder to kill them on accident. Ditto this. Even with enough strength to get a good iron skin, the cats just get a thump and are stunned long enough to make scanning them a doddle. Add an Arca Plasmor to take out a capture target, and you've got my standard vault run routine.
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i am bad at math but yesterday i saw someone say that based on the damage formula, in an ideal situation your generic +damage should be roughly equal to your +elemental damage. because i have an absolutely massive +damage roll on my jaw sword riven i swapped out the augment and spoiled strike for a 60/60 and another 90 and my whipclaw damage did seem to go up quite a bit.
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I Am Just a Box posted:Note that one of Simaris's items for sale is a module that gives you infinite synthesis scanners. Handy. WAT??? Ugh, I'm such a fuckin' dummy 
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Bogus Adventure posted:WAT??? I think it is 50k simaris rep? The Sol Battery Widget This should be your priority #1 buy from Simaris.
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I Am Just a Box posted:As Jobbo_Fett says, go to the dojo research stations and buy a blueprint for Helios, the sentinel companion who uses Codex Scanners for you. Never have to scan enemies or objects for your codex again. (He'll only scan targets you haven't maxed out your codex entry on, so he's bad at space cats, plant gathering, and synthesis, but two of those three are stuff that you don't really need to be worrying about if you're still using your first-day Excalibur.) i already have helios..just ran out of scans...
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Fruity20 posted:i already have helios..just ran out of scans... Then the Heliocor isn't any better, because like Helios, it eats Codex Scanners. Just buy more for credits from the gear equip menu. I buy them by the hundreds. They're cheap. Edit: Wait, can Helios use the Synthesis Scanner? Does the Sol-Battery Widget still work? I'm a fool! But not as much of a fool as when I didn't Run the Index. I Am Just a Box fucked around with this message at 23:27 on May 7, 2019 |
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Helios can use the synthesis scanner and it does work with infinite scans, though it cannot scan the unique synthesis targets you can trap that have multiple scan points. It'll scan poo poo you haven't capped the scans on, but not stuff you have capped which can be a pain for getting the plant materials and poo poo for certain ephemera a pain.
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Also with regard to the cap on scans - Helios won’t scan Kavats once you have their codex entry completed, I think. I ended up losing out on a bunch of scans during the Inaros quest because I didn’t realize this at the time.
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QuantumButler posted:I think it is 50k simaris rep? The Sol Battery Widget Awesome, this is my new priority in-game.
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You can use the charged shot from ballistica prime to create kavat ghosts and scan those too for double cat DNA.
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clone on the phone posted:You can use the charged shot from ballistica prime to create kavat ghosts and scan those too for double cat DNA. poo poo like this just makes me love this game
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