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BonHair posted:I wonder if a Meshuggah cover album would be terrible or awesome. Like them playing Master of Puppets or Killed by Death and stuff, either straight or djentrified.
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Wark Say posted:Yeah, the Plagiarism EP felt completely uninspired. It felt like the sort of thing you put out to get out of a contract, but given that they released the fairly great Ire Works the next year on the same label, it felt weird. Then again, taking into account that every record after Ire Works was released with help from a different label, so maybe there was something to that. Dillinger Escape Plan’s Aphex Twin cover with Mike Patton on vocals was pretty spot on, but I guess that was just as much a proof of concept.
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kjetting posted:Dillinger Escape Plan’s Aphex Twin cover with Mike Patton on vocals was pretty spot on, but I guess that was just as much a proof of concept. The Muppets On PCP posted:their cover of rebel yell was pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NE-mWCSiTw
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Philthy posted:I'm kind of annoyed at this because if you follow through all the production youtube masterclass uber producer make money money do this and they all tell you to use the swing knob so your music doesn't sound like a loving robot. Swing/humanize doesn’t intentionally change tempo throughout the song, which is the point he FiNALLY gets to near the blend.
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Dr. Faustus posted:I only somewhat understand what you guys are talking about (mics and phase cancellation times many tracks I think I am in the ballpark at least) but wow this really does seem to be stupid music poo poo. Yeah I think anything after 4 tracks of the same part (per panning) is around the point that it doesn't make much difference anymore. When I say "per panning" I mean that 4 tracks panned center might start to wash out if not millisecond perfect, but 2 panned hard left and 2 panned hard right will still sound a bit more clear because you're only "layering" 2 tracks against each other per side. If you download Reaper or some other DAW, you can try it yourself if you like. It's fun experimenting with what different techniques sound like. In my experience, once you start doing more than say 3 or 4 tracks of the same part panned directly in line with each other, your guitar starts to sound more like a huge, distant wave of energy instead of some tight, agile thing. It's definitely not dumb if it's done right though. If you do half your parts panned hard left and the other half panned hard right, things really start to sound gigantic. If the sound you're going for is "huge unstoppable force" then that's a good place to start. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 16:00 on May 7, 2019 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:I only somewhat understand what you guys are talking about (mics and phase cancellation times many tracks I think I am in the ballpark at least) but wow this really does seem to be stupid music poo poo. I mean Meshuggah (and djent in general) seems like an evolutionary dead end to me anyways. It's like how commercial Turkey production has made turkeys that can't actually inseminate each other any more, or sabre tooth tigers that couldn't open their mouths larger than their teeth so die of starvation. So we had hard rock in the '80s. To make it harder we added a double kick and got metal, and it was good. Then it was a few decades of "how do we make it harder" So now we've ended up with the hardest a rock quartet can be, but it kind of sounds like homogeneous poo poo.(See also: modern Jazz, and arcane harmonization. and modern blues rock with their 1000notes, no music found) Also as near as I can tell the lyrics to all their songs are "oaaaaaah. oaaaaaaah. oh oh oaaaaaaaa." so I am deep in "get of my lawn" territory here. the good news is that Humans do music. So we got tons of great stuff on the way down. Neo-classical, symphonic metal, math rock, neo-prog etc. eventually some kids are going to find a Meshuggah album but not know how to scream "properly" or play the drums right, or realize they are supposed to have 24 dubs of their guitars and will create something amazing Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 16:01 on May 7, 2019 |
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I don't think it's a coincidence deliberately-ratty black metal is pretty popular on Bandcamp right now.
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Siivola posted:I don't think it's a coincidence deliberately-ratty black metal is pretty popular on Bandcamp right now. when music loses its cathartic edge you gotta get back to basics.
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May 7, 2019 16:57
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Also raw hm2core themed crossover/grind is getting a resurgence. Noise is cool and good.
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Wark Say posted:Yeah, but they felt natural. So did the few times they played Hot for Teacher live. Jesus christ this video is 4:3. Why.
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Spanish Manlove posted:Also raw hm2core themed crossover/grind is getting a resurgence. 2019 will be the year that all pedals include an HM2 gyrator tonestack. Abominable Electronics is releasing a pedal with Kurt Ballou that's a ZVex SHO with an HM2 tonestack. Some other company infamous for their HM2 clones has already put out something similar. A friend of mine is releasing an MT-2 with HM-2 tonestack. The first motherfucker to put out a Green Russian Big Muff with HM2 tone controls will rule the land for the next 15 minutes.
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Someone should just make a knobless, always-dimed HM-2.
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Im surprised that JHS doesn't make a mini one with just an on/off switch in a box that's about the size of a switch and Jack's.
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Siivola posted:Someone should just make a knobless, always-dimed HM-2.
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Siivola posted:Someone should just make a knobless, always-dimed HM-2. https://imgur.com/JrhWcQl https://dunwichamps.tumblr.com/post/149008777768/no-knobs-no-masters-nihilist-hm2-allpass lol
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:https://imgur.com/JrhWcQl  s.i.r.e. posted:Jesus christ this video is 4:3. Why. 
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:https://imgur.com/JrhWcQl  Wark Say posted:Like that one amp head one of The Sword guys uses that only has one knob? 
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Siivola posted:Yessss! It's called the Big Crunch One Knob. Strangely, only a 50w-er.
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It sounds pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WmHO0p2YSc
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:2019 will be the year that all pedals include an HM2 gyrator tonestack. Abominable Electronics is releasing a pedal with Kurt Ballou that's a ZVex SHO with an HM2 tonestack. Some other company infamous for their HM2 clones has already put out something similar. A friend of mine is releasing an MT-2 with HM-2 tonestack. The first motherfucker to put out a Green Russian Big Muff with HM2 tone controls will rule the land for the next 15 minutes. Lol anywhere i can hear all these things? I built some standalone muff tonestacks and chucked them after a bunch of different dirt pedals to see what happened, poo poo like this is v interesting to me.
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I just learned that the 5150 is sort of a cross between a hotrodded marshall plexi (read: jcm800) and a SLO100. I have no idea why but I love all of those amps for the very same reason. I've never really been a huge EVH fan but it seems like we have the same taste when it comes to guitar tone.
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Honestly I’ve been so burned out on overproduced multi tracked flawlessly metronome locked no bad notes ever rock/metal that I couldn’t be happier about these throwbacks/stripped down bands. They still run into similar issues for me sometimes but it’s better. Sure I enjoy a lot of music with that level of clean sterility but there’s something about a lot of 60s/70s/80s/90s even rock and metal that feels very human and raw to me. First Van Halen album, 80s thrash and heavy metal, 80s+90s black and death metal. I would rather hear the most energetic and passionate take with well done production than that same idea picked from 50 takes, double tracked and engineered to sound as incredible as possible. old man yells at cloudkicker etc
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Spanish Manlove posted:I just learned that the 5150 is sort of a cross between a hotrodded marshall plexi (read: jcm800) and a SLO100. I have no idea why but I love all of those amps for the very same reason. I've never really been a huge EVH fan but it seems like we have the same taste when it comes to guitar tone. My full EVH love happened because his approach to gear/tone/modding/playing rules. When you dig into his brain a bit it makes you appreciate his music way more.
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field balm posted:Lol anywhere i can hear all these things? https://www.instagram.com/p/BwRrxU_H6Fe/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=75ymkkqkui0c https://youtu.be/L3zqu5Ffwa8
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:The first motherfucker to put out a Green Russian Big Muff with HM2 tone controls will rule the land for the next 15 minutes. I legit had this idea so i'm expecting pepers to put it out in the next hour or so, continuing his trend of stealing my ideas out of my head and doing them before i can do them edit: also I bought this and it owns extremely hard and isn't made by a narcissistic rear end in a top hat me, an intellectual: buys a hm2 clone for more than an actual hm2 costs in order to tour with it 
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Concatenation posted:I legit had this idea so i'm expecting pepers to put it out in the next hour or so, continuing his trend of stealing my ideas out of my head and doing them before i can do them Built like a tank, though. At least this one won't require you to bring a soldering iron on tour.
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just buy like four of the behringer HM2 clones and give them out to kids at the show when they start to act up
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Siivola posted:Someone should just make a knobless, always-dimed HM-2. I have this in the works. Seriously. E: F,B
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Spanish Manlove posted:I just learned that the 5150 is sort of a cross between a hotrodded marshall plexi (read: jcm800) and a SLO100. I have no idea why but I love all of those amps for the very same reason. I've never really been a huge EVH fan but it seems like we have the same taste when it comes to guitar tone. there's a little more to it than that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzOhq3-3d90&t=913s Kilometers Davis posted:Honestly I’ve been so burned out on overproduced multi tracked flawlessly metronome locked no bad notes ever rock/metal that I couldn’t be happier about these throwbacks/stripped down bands. They still run into similar issues for me sometimes but it’s better. Sure I enjoy a lot of music with that level of clean sterility but there’s something about a lot of 60s/70s/80s/90s even rock and metal that feels very human and raw to me. First Van Halen album, 80s thrash and heavy metal, 80s+90s black and death metal. I would rather hear the most energetic and passionate take with well done production than that same idea picked from 50 takes, double tracked and engineered to sound as incredible as possible. carcass' heartwork album was recorded without a click. i'm just saying
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Also, and somewhat hilariously: The only thing Michael Amott actually contributed during his stint with Carcass was some like 8 or 9 leads/solos. Every single rhythm guitar on anything aside from maybe Swan Song and the EP that contained reworkings from Surgical Steel leftover songs was recorded by Bill.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:carcass' heartwork album was recorded without a click. i'm just saying It’s one of my favorite metal albums for a reason!
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:https://www.instagram.com/p/BwRrxU_H6Fe/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=75ymkkqkui0c That clean boost with the hm2 eq actually sounds pretty drat cool
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Kilometers Davis posted:Honestly I’ve been so burned out on overproduced multi tracked flawlessly metronome locked no bad notes ever rock/metal that I couldn’t be happier about these throwbacks/stripped down bands. They still run into similar issues for me sometimes but it’s better. Sure I enjoy a lot of music with that level of clean sterility but there’s something about a lot of 60s/70s/80s/90s even rock and metal that feels very human and raw to me. First Van Halen album, 80s thrash and heavy metal, 80s+90s black and death metal. I would rather hear the most energetic and passionate take with well done production than that same idea picked from 50 takes, double tracked and engineered to sound as incredible as possible. I know exactly what you mean, and I agree. Technical wankery can be fun, but the real good stuff is made by people who don't care about perfect production values or picking and mixing takes to produce a flawless result. Flawless is boring, I want the humanity, the passion, the musicality to shine. I've been getting more and more into blackened thrash/speed, and there are so many fun bands out there who just shred for the hell of it, full speed ahead, never mind the sound quality or mainstream appeal. I'm fortunate enough to be the promo release handler for a metal website, so I get a ton of releases from all sorts of big and small distros, as well as independent bands. Without exaggerating, there are at least 10 releases from bands with wonderfully raw old-school aesthetics and production, every single week. A lot of the stuff doesn't get reviewed or much press at all, but I do try to pull from this stuff when I recommend new music to my friends or share something on social media or whatever. Outside of death metal and blackened thrash/speed, we also get the occasional retro hard rock/NWOBHM coming through, a lot of them go hard for the retro style. One band that really caught my attention is Tanith. I think they just hit that 70s vibe so perfectly, I get really strong Camel etc. vibes from it. It's absolutely not stupid music poo poo, but I'mma post it anyway, because it rules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPY_Jw-O5k0 KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 12:45 on May 8, 2019 |
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KozmoNaut posted:I know exactly what you mean, and I agree.  Also, I agree completely with the bolded part. With a few exceptions (Periphery, Meshuggah, and a few smattering of others), I want something that feels... not necessarily "ugly", but for Buddha's sake, it's fine to show your human side, buddy.
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Concatenation posted:edit: also I bought this and it owns extremely hard and isn't made by a narcissistic rear end in a top hat Speaking of which, that dude is unraveling publicly and it is hilarious. 
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