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evilweasel posted:theoretically, it means that internal discussions in the executive branch have some level of immunity such that people can give unfiltered advice without needing to draft every email as if it would be potentially discoverable. it is not an absolute privilege, but it means you need a much higher level of justification before you can get the documents. "we're conducting general oversight" doesn't get you there, "we've got some suspicions that bad stuff happened but are still looking into it" probably doesn't get you there, "we have specific evidence that a crime was committed and probably involved these people at this time, so we need those documents to prove what happened" probably does. Still, the old adage about "dance like nobody is watching, sing like nobody is listening, and write emails like every word will be read out loud in a deposition" should still apply.
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How the gently caress can Trump claim executive privilege over the Mueller report. Something he had nothing to do with and is already released. And also apparently completely exonerates him. gently caress this poo poo is so stupid. Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 18:16 on May 8, 2019 |
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May 8, 2019 18:09
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He's not supposed to be able to exercise EP on private citizens either, so he shouldn't be able to stop McGahn from testifying. McGahn will stop himself from testifying because he's a shameless rear end in a top hat.
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May 8, 2019 18:18
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Pook Good Mook posted:How the gently caress can Trump claim executive privilege over the Mueller report. Something he had nothing to do with and is already released. And also apparently completely exonerates him. five shameless scotus justices
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Also, if anything ever matters again, Trump constituted 1% of claimed losses in the US for 10 years and subsequently admitted to tax fraud in a follow-up tweet. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/bm3w1p/trump_explains_his_businesses_lost_so_much/
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Pook Good Mook posted:Also, if anything ever matters again, Trump constituted 1% of claimed losses in the US for 10 years and subsequently admitted to tax fraud in a follow-up tweet. the other big thing is the NYT flagged a $50m interest payment he claimed to have received in 1989 that there's no chance whatsoever was a real interest payment. they appear not to have enough info to know what it actually was (or, enough evidence to print what it was if they have a private suspicion) but it's very clearly dirty as all hell, so the article just notes it and explains why it's definitely not an interest payment. but because they don't say what it was (and explain it's probably tax fraud or dirty money) people missed what a big deal that was. fortunately new york state is going to turn over all his state tax forms to congress to bypass the irs 
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May 8, 2019 18:46
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evilweasel posted:the other big thing is the NYT flagged a $50m interest payment he claimed to have received in 1989 that there's no chance whatsoever was a real interest payment. they appear not to have enough info to know what it actually was (or, enough evidence to print what it was if they have a private suspicion) but it's very clearly dirty as all hell, so the article just notes it and explains why it's definitely not an interest payment. but because they don't say what it was (and explain it's probably tax fraud or dirty money) people missed what a big deal that was. Which is on top of the interest income he reported that would have required he have at least $300 million invested (going by average rates of return) during the same period he claimed losses of $1 billion.
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May 8, 2019 18:54
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Does any of this matter in YOOL 2019 since this tax fraud is outside the SOL? At best it's justification to seek current tax returns that are within the SOL? That's the best that's going to come of this, right? And Trump is just going to run the clock out with bullshit on that no matter how dead to rights he looks. Nothing matters. Do crimes.
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Could repeated acts of fraud over an extended period of time help categorize the Trump Organization as an organized crime outfit subject to RICO?
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Look Sir Droids posted:Does any of this matter in YOOL 2019 since this tax fraud is outside the SOL? At best it's justification to seek current tax returns that are within the SOL? That's the best that's going to come of this, right? And Trump is just going to run the clock out with bullshit on that no matter how dead to rights he looks. its not like trump stopped committing tax crimes its just all of the data that is public is long out of date
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Look Sir Droids posted:Does any of this matter in YOOL 2019 since this tax fraud is outside the SOL? At best it's justification to seek current tax returns that are within the SOL? That's the best that's going to come of this, right? And Trump is just going to run the clock out with bullshit on that no matter how dead to rights he looks. There is no statute of limitations on civil tax fraud.
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The sad thing is, he’s going to get re-elected Bc the dems can’t stop tripping over their own dicks. He’s not the potus we need, but the potus we deserve.
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Wait wait wait hold up here just for five loving seconds. Trump... is bad?
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Nice piece of fish posted:Wait wait wait hold up here just for five loving seconds. Gonna have to get you to run those numbers again, chief.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Wait wait wait hold up here just for five loving seconds. https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/692155362552778752
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Well, poo poo. If it'd make any of you feel better, I'm having a naming party for the cabin middle of next month. If you show up there's beer, barbecue, whiskey in the middle of the forest? There will be a campfire, hopefully nice weather. gently caress I forgot to update my cabin thread. Have to do that.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Well, poo poo. If it'd make any of you feel better, I'm having a naming party for the cabin middle of next month. If you show up there's beer, barbecue, whiskey in the middle of the forest? There will be a campfire, hopefully nice weather. I vote for "Steve."
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nm posted:I vote for "Steve." That means "turgid" in norwegian so no. I'm open to suggestions, though.
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May 8, 2019 22:00
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I vote for "Turgid". What does that mean in Norwegian?
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Nice piece of fish posted:That means "turgid" in norwegian so no. I'm open to suggestions, though. The first sentence indicates you're not very open to suggestions 
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Nice piece of fish posted:That means "turgid" in norwegian so no. I'm open to suggestions, though. if you need something that is more "you", how do you say 'flaccid' in Norwegian?
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May 8, 2019 22:14
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Nice piece of fish posted:That means "turgid" in norwegian so no. I'm open to suggestions, though. I'm going to pretend I knew that and double down.
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May 8, 2019 22:16
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Nice piece of fish posted:That means "turgid" in norwegian so no. I'm open to suggestions, though. obviously it should be dedicated to Toona. thinking either "study group girl" or "divorce finalized."
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EwokEntourage posted:obviously it should be dedicated to Toona. thinking either "study group girl" or "divorce finalized." Do you name cabins in the same manner as boats or race horses?
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May 8, 2019 22:21
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Well if I got to name your cabin I would've named it Kingsley, for example.
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May 8, 2019 22:28
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Nice piece of fish posted:That means "turgid" in norwegian so no. I'm open to suggestions, though. Strong second vote for Steve
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May 8, 2019 22:31
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Look Sir Droids posted:I vote for "Turgid". What does that mean in Norwegian? Nothing. But if you seperated the syllables it'd mean "trip, gosh". evilweasel posted:if you need something that is more "you", how do you say 'flaccid' in Norwegian? "evilweasel" nm posted:I'm going to pretend I knew that and double down. Pook Good Mook posted:Strong second vote for Steve loving god damnit. I'll steve what I can do.
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May 8, 2019 22:40
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Why are you all talking about some blowhard reality tv host?
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My dad's name is Steve so this is all extra funny.
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May 9, 2019 01:10
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Name it Law Hut, Nord. or Steve
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LOL, this ‘myths and facts’ document from the Executive Office of Immigration Review (the immigration courts) is bonkers. Imagine a criminal court issuing a document stating like, “Do you know most accused are guilty? Also we are definitely neutral arbiters and are definitely not violating due process.” Also, I am pretty skeptical of these statistics given what is going on in the document overall. The thing about how there aren’t significant disparities in asylum grant rates across courts is an actual, straight up misrepresentation; Syracuse University independently tracks the data through FOIA. I also think the percentages on representation are wrong but I don’t know that one off-hand. When CBP or ICE does something lawless I kind of expect it, but the erosion of the adjudicative body itself is a new, grim reality.
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Vox Nihili posted:Name it Law Hut, Nord. Alternative cabin names: Sovereign Acres Bartleby's Rest The Easement-free Zone Beware of Lawyer Niflheim Enthusiasm Waning
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May 9, 2019 04:35
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Goonheim. or Steve.
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Name it The Study Room.
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Blackacre.
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The Dagda posted:LOL, this ‘myths and facts’ document from the Executive Office of Immigration Review (the immigration courts) is bonkers. Imagine a criminal court issuing a document stating like, “Do you know most accused are guilty? Also we are definitely neutral arbiters and are definitely not violating due process.” What do you expect when the prosecutors literally run the court?
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oh hey so this is the thread I want to be hanging out in, not the legal questions one. hi thread I'm still getting used to not being able to protest that I'm not a lawyer.
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Vox Nihili posted:Name it Law Hut, Nord. Law Hutt, after the Hutt River Province, and secede. You may have to install a gold fringe around your cabin but IANAL.* *For another five weeks.
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