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In Japan you take your shoes off when you go inside so maybe she just took her socks off too
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May 9, 2019 02:58
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Expect My Mom posted:pull the gently caress up thread who gives the best foot massages in all of smt
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May 9, 2019 03:00
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yu narukami faces his hardest challenge yet
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May 9, 2019 03:05
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Butt Ghost posted:yu narukami faces his hardest challenge yet cursed
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May 9, 2019 03:27
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if you're dating another person on the Investigation Team who's also in your party they'll ask "hey uhhh how come you took your socks off at Yu's house" followed by "there was an awkward silence..."
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May 9, 2019 03:32
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Persona 5 Royal won't let you transfer your save. You get a bonus for having a P5 vanilla save, but you can't bring over the compendium or social stats. That sounds like a pain, but I've decided I'm not gonna play P5R unless they remove the homophobia.
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May 9, 2019 18:29
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That's not gonna happen. He'll, if I cared more about it, I'd  that P5R will still be grossly homophobic.
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May 9, 2019 18:34
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Considering they are adding what amounts to what, three extra months of game content as well? It took me so long to beat Persona 5 the first time I don't know if I would want to actually play it a second time like I did with Persona 4 or 3. While 5 is mechanically the best game out of all of them it didn't resonate with me or strike the same chord the other two did.
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May 9, 2019 18:40
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PMush Perfect posted:That's not gonna happen. He'll, if I cared more about it, I'd
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May 9, 2019 18:43
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I wasn't going to buy a remake of a game I already bought like two years ago regardless
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May 9, 2019 18:45
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Don't worry everyone I'll take the blow on this for you
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May 9, 2019 20:19
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I'm an idiot who shouldn't be allowed to have money, so same
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May 9, 2019 20:22
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I'm going to buy it, unless i am dead. Then I'll haunt someone and make them buy it
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May 9, 2019 21:01
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PMush Perfect posted:That's not gonna happen. He'll, if I cared more about it, I'd ????????????? but Katsura Hashino retired?????????????????
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May 10, 2019 03:26
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:????????????? but Katsura Hashino retired????????????????? jesus christ shut up, we get it
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May 10, 2019 03:30
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We gotta face the fact that Hashino being off of Persona isn't going to save the series by itself. They'll probably just get another old dude who doesn't get it
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May 10, 2019 03:34
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Arist posted:jesus christ shut up, we get it No, now you know how it feels to have to read your dumb-rear end posts for four months about how the series is gonna make total 180 in terms of social messaging now that one person is gone
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May 10, 2019 03:36
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Waffleman_ posted:We gotta face the fact that Hashino being off of Persona isn't going to save the series by itself. They'll probably just get another old dude who doesn't get it Bring back the old crew.
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May 10, 2019 03:40
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I don't think hoping that new staff would have a different perspective on stuff is an out-there take, esp when we have examples both before and during modern Persona.
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May 10, 2019 03:41
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:No, now you know how it feels to have to read your dumb-rear end posts for four months about how the series is gonna make total 180 in terms of social messaging now that one person is gone I never posted that! In fact, I can't recall anyone posting anything stronger than a "hopefully Hashino took that poo poo with him because while Japan is certainly not a bastion of progressiveness on this issue, others have proven capable of not being lovely about it, and that kind of shittiness has been endemic to pretty much his entire body of work." It honestly kind of strikes me as kind of low-key racist that you just assume it's gonna be worse somehow. At least loving toxx on there being some new instance of that poo poo so we can hopefully laugh when you get banned over it. Motto posted:I don't think hoping that new staff would have a different perspective on stuff is an out-there take, esp when we have examples both before and during modern Persona. loving exactly.
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May 10, 2019 03:53
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Isn't the "old" crew the one that did caligula
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May 10, 2019 03:53
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Motto posted:I don't think hoping that new staff would have a different perspective on stuff is an out-there take, esp when we have examples both before and during modern Persona. One person isn't enough of a new staff - the idea that he is dictating individual dialogue for scenes and forcing the writing staff to include homophobic jokes just isn't how the process works, and the theory that he does that is naive at best and kind of sad at worst. It's not surprising that the P2 series is so different from what we have now, it's been a really long time and almost all of that original team is probably long-gone. I mean poo poo, look over at the Anthem/Fallout76 threads if you want to see how far a company can fall, and that's in a way shorter time period than the gap between P2 and P5. Fallout76 would't have magically been a much better game if Todd Howard were out, the issues with that game are beyond his reach, just like the issues people have with Persona. And I'd bet the Persona team is especially hesitant to make any major changes, both in staff or ideology, considering how P4 is one of the most well-received JRPGs of all time and P5 spends the whole game burdened under that weight.
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May 10, 2019 03:55
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This is some hilarious apologia and also completely ignores what we know about Katsura "there's no platonic friendship option for the male route in the Persona 3 romance Social Links because I have never been friends with a woman" Hashino
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May 10, 2019 03:58
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people aren't saying that Katsura is good. they're saying that the more than only one dude in the studio are shitheads.
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May 10, 2019 04:03
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Tired Moritz posted:people aren't saying that Katsura is good. they're saying that the more than only one dude in the studio are shitheads. My point is that we already know the dude has inserted his weird worldview into these games. We've seen it. It's not so unbelievable that he'd be at least partially responsible for elements that keep recurring through his work. Besides, choosing this as your hill to die on to attack auteur theory is loving weird.
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May 10, 2019 04:07
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Tae posted:Isn't the "old" crew the one that did caligula Just one guy, IIRC. The writer, but he also worked on Digital Devil Saga and that owned.
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May 10, 2019 04:08
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Also if RazzleDazzleHour is gonna whine every time about the horrible issue of people hoping P5R will be good and not have bigotry in it, it's gonna be a long six months until it comes out in Japan.
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May 10, 2019 04:11
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if you all really care about the toxic worldview, show some self-control and don't buy p5r unless they take that poo poo out. I'm not gonna guarantee that it'll make any difference, but your stance falls flat if you give Atlus money regardless.
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May 10, 2019 04:13
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Brave stance from the guy who already said he wasn't going to buy it for an unrelated reason. Going "if you actually cared you would boycott it" is pretty lovely.
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May 10, 2019 04:19
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MonsieurChoc posted:Just one guy, IIRC. The writer, but he also worked on Digital Devil Saga and that owned. I only played Caligula: Overdose, but I think the writing as a whole in that game was actually pretty good. It has the exact same kind of lovely humor that Persona engages in, but I think that sort of humor is a much broader cultural issue even outside of video games, as it's pretty prevalent in almost every form of mainstream Japanese media, especially television. The individual characters were really good, and the game did a much better job of tying the personal social links into the bigger story than Persona has done.
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May 10, 2019 04:20
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Atlus will get no money from me ever again until they give me Raidou 3
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May 10, 2019 04:22
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Arist posted:Brave stance from the guy who already said he wasn't going to buy it for an unrelated reason. Butt Ghost posted:That sounds like a pain, but I've decided I'm not gonna play P5R unless they remove the homophobia.
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May 10, 2019 04:22
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huh, fair i guess, still not really down with the central idea of you being the arbiter of moral purity in JRPG purchases
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May 10, 2019 04:27
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Shatlus
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May 10, 2019 04:28
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Arist posted:Also if RazzleDazzleHour is gonna whine every time about the horrible issue of people hoping P5R will be good and not have bigotry in it, it's gonna be a long six months until it comes out in Japan. It's not any more unreadable than people talking about how much they hate P5 for being problematic is.
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May 10, 2019 04:45
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Cuntellectual posted:It's not any more unreadable than people talking about how much they hate P5 for being problematic is. Nah E: More seriously, I'm pretty sure most people here who have problems with P5 being "problematic" have said a lot about how they like the game. The thing is that it's kind of a huge blemish on an otherwise good game that nowadays is becoming harder and harder to overlook. Saagonsa fucked around with this message at 05:07 on May 10, 2019 |
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May 10, 2019 04:50
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:I think that sort of humor is a much broader cultural issue even outside of video games, as it's pretty prevalent in almost every form of mainstream Japanese media, especially television.
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May 10, 2019 04:58
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also hashino has literally said himself he is the reason for the weirdness in the initial launch of persona 3 and his phrasing in interviews makes it clear hes the one who made the call to not have a female protagonist in persona 4 and 5 and his reasoning given was very weird, and literally any game he's ever had any power on has had homophobic and transphobic jokes, and the few persona games that exist without his involvement dont have homophobic jokes obviously other people would have to agree with hashino for that stuff to make it into the final game but it is not unreasonable to associate him with that content. i dont know why razzledazzle is so insanely invested in that strawman.
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Arist posted:huh, fair i guess, still not really down with the central idea of you being the arbiter of moral purity in JRPG purchases My problem is just, with how much the thread goes on about Persona 5 being problematic, to the point that it's the name of the thread, to just continue to blindly buy the game makes all that seem hollow I guess. I dunno. You can make up your own mind. It's just to me, I'm not sure I'd feel right doing it again.
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