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Invalid Validation posted:Mundo is probably the most boring out of all those and his kit is basically the same since the beginning of time. Give him something other than be a meat slab . you fucker bastard — prepare to hear from my team of lawyers Servaetes posted:https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/05/choose-a-champion-update-for-2020/
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Definitely Volibear. They need to just rethink his entire kit and start over. The others all deserve to be there (except maaaybe nocturne who seems mostly okay to me) but at least the others have some charm/theme that's worth keeping. Been playing a lot of Yuumi on PBE the last few days. She's... interesting. Lane phase is on the weak side without any hard CC for gank protection, but post lane phase she gets completely out of control. Major force multiplier like most enchanters, if you're ahead she'll make sure you stay ahead, etc. But can feel useless/become a free double kill if you get behind. I feel like I'm going to be either playing Yuumi when she comes out or playing Neeko into Yuumi and just getting freelo off people who aren't playing her properly. She's a very bad champion if you don't juggle your attach/unattached modes well and you can easily make your ADC feel like they're in a 2v1 if you just sit on them.
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May 9, 2019 22:40
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I hope Nocturne goes up first. As they alluded, he already hits his mark on theme but he really struggles to deliver on gameplay (although magic-missile nocturne has always been fun).
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May 9, 2019 23:12
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I voted shyvana only because I would like to see how insanely Riot will overload her manaless kit if they rework her.
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May 9, 2019 23:20
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Sexpansion posted:I voted shyvana only because I would like to see how insanely Riot will overload her manaless kit if they rework her. Same. I feel like that list is pretty solid, and I'd vote for Diana, Elise, Nidalle, or most of the AP assassins first, but I want to see what they can do to make dragon form more like the magic damage version on Mega Gnar
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May 9, 2019 23:44
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Be nice if Shyvannas dragon form didn’t look like a dieing lizard too.
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May 10, 2019 01:31
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I had a nice game (at silver 4 level lol): First penta in a while. Didn't even notice I grabbed the wrong keystone until afterwards. Tried to swap from PTA to conqueror last second, and guess I mis-clicked.
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May 10, 2019 04:16
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Firebert posted:It's fiddle - lovely model, lovely lore, 3 point and click abilities that don't really fit together and random silence just begging to be removed Correct answer. Silences suck and are being ethnically cleansed and non-crit RNG ditto.
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May 10, 2019 07:21
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I voted Shyvana cause her AP build is loving godawful to deal with and I want it gone Kill All Nidalees
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May 10, 2019 07:48
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I voted Shyv because although I've never played her, every game I play against her seems like she's the most miserable and useless character to play out of the 5.
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May 10, 2019 08:29
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Firebert posted:It's fiddle - lovely model, lovely lore, 3 point and click abilities that don't really fit together and random silence just begging to be removed I voted this way too. Mundo's funny and you'll never make me care about Volibear. Fiddle looks spooky and cool in the Twist of Fate cinematic and then you get in game and he's this doddering clunky piece of poo poo with one of the worst autoattacks in the game who can barely move outside of his ultimate.
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May 10, 2019 08:40
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The Deleter posted:you'll never make me care about Volibear. The fact that we feel this way about a huge loving thunderbear should make you vote for him tbh
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May 10, 2019 08:43
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I'm probably voting Voli, just to make them do the biggest possible rework of the five so that we get an entirely new champion. But a new Fiddle with the same ult could be fun too hmmMMMMMM...
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May 10, 2019 08:48
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I gotta vote Mundo, most in need of a visual upgrade by far while Voli and Noct are most in need of making them less of a snooze-fest. Shy is fine except visuals, just needs a base skin that isn't bikini armor and thong armor with exposed midriffs. Fiddle is fine the way he is, visually he looks fine because he is just a lovely scarecrow, gameplay wise he works just fine in support and alright in jungle and has fairly unique gameplay with how squishy he is, you just know if they rework him his fear is going to be a skillshot and you'll have to manually glide each crow into people and he'll probably lose that satisfaction of having his E bounce between 2 people. The only correct answer in the end is to vote Mundo, because a full rework will include 10+ minutes of voice lines for Mundo.
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May 10, 2019 09:32
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I voted Mundo in the hopes they finally make Executioner Mundo into Gimpsuit Mundo like god intended
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May 10, 2019 09:35
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:The only correct answer in the end is to vote Mundo, because a full rework will include 10+ minutes of voice lines for Mundo.  Thing is though, Mundo is gonna stay basically the same kit, the hypertank with cleavers and no real CC. And once you get past how cool the new VO and animations are, you still got the same champ.
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May 10, 2019 09:49
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It will 1 minute of voice acting if you remove all the times he says "Mundo".
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May 10, 2019 09:56
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Remove Q silence, make W a skillshot that terrifies while it drains, make E something fun For Fiddlesticks that is
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May 10, 2019 10:13
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It should probably be Volibear so they can rename him and make him interesting since the only reason he was smashed through development was to get a self insert into the game.
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May 10, 2019 16:14
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Svensken posted:Remove Q silence, make W a skillshot that terrifies while it drains, make E something fun His Q is the targeted fear. Honestly I think fiddle's kit is alright. He has a lot of damage and cc but is extremely squishy and has a limited range, which makes him rely on good setup and vision control to win fights. The silence is obnoxious so I would change his E to do something different but I think his design is one of the more cohesive and realized of the old champions. I would rather he gets a QoL change for the most part mechanically.
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May 10, 2019 16:27
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Yeah fiddle I'd probably just take the silence off his e and be done with it. And add more crows to his ults visual
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May 10, 2019 16:57
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How Rude posted:His Q is the targeted fear. the silence is a sweetener on an ability which is more than strong enough without it. maybe make it increase the amount of damage your drain does or something, with stack so if you multi bounce you can shred someone
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May 10, 2019 17:09
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Just make Fid's first crow target silenced and the rest are damage only, make his fear a skill shot with a small AoE like Cass' ult, and freshen up his animations. Simple as hell I don't know why everyone is bitching about the concept of silences, Malz and Raka have silences that fit in the game fine because they're not bouncing death spells that can silence you when the champ isn't even in vision range
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May 10, 2019 17:37
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I'd rather lose the silence than the targeted fear. It's nice having a few champs where their CC's aren't skillshots for people who aren't great at them.
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May 10, 2019 17:45
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The Door Frame posted:Just make Fid's first crow target silenced and the rest are damage only, make his fear a skill shot with a small AoE like Cass' ult, and freshen up his animations. Simple as hell silence is not a very good mechanic in general and as a cc it can either be the most annoying mechanic or completely irrelevant so i think the less people who have it the better
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May 10, 2019 17:57
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How is silence that much worse than nearsighted, blind, fear, charm, suppressed, frozen, or stunned? His silence is just so bad because it's a long range, multitarget, bouncing, targetable ability on a short CD
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May 10, 2019 18:11
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Silence is hard because you just lose control of your buttons and it’s not as noticeable like being rooted in place. It kinda serves the same purpose but it can’t really be dodged like most other forms of CC which Riot has been pretty good about throwing CC on skill shots or ultimates.
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May 10, 2019 19:38
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Is there a good recommended learning resource for people who have never really played League before? I have played about 640 hours of Dota 2, but never really League, so I'm familiar with a lot of the basic concepts, but not the stuff specific to League.
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May 10, 2019 20:39
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The Door Frame posted:How is silence that much worse than nearsighted, blind, fear, charm, suppressed, frozen, or stunned? His silence is just so bad because it's a long range, multitarget, bouncing, targetable ability on a short CD i mean, silence is just annoying, it is not overpowered. the problem with silence is it just sucks, it is not fun to play with or around and it has variable use. silence a zed? great! silence caitlyn? .... good job i guess? the status sucks because it is not really noticeable until you try to press a button and do nothing, and it has terrible conveyance. notably, soraka and malzahars silence are tied to extremely flashy obvious abilities whereas dark wind just hits you and then your buttons stop working for a bit. really though, i think silence is just a bad status effect to exist in league unless it is really obvious and has a specific reason to exist(malz uses it to counter mages, soraka uses it for area denial and protection)
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May 10, 2019 20:50
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i think as his kit currently functions crow silence is important to allowing fiddles to survive crowstorm long enough to effectively position instead of having to hourglass immediately in a mediocre spot, but it could be implemented in a different way
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May 10, 2019 21:02
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duck trucker posted:I'd rather lose the silence than the targeted fear. It's nice having a few champs where their CC's aren't skillshots for people who aren't great at them. its not nice that this the case actually there shouldnt be point and click spells that have powerful effects or do a shitload of burst (see every ninja) in a game where every other spell needs to be aimed
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May 10, 2019 21:04
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strong bird posted:its not nice that this the case actually Targeted CC is fine if it has some really important caveats. Namely the fear is attached to a very squishy, immobile mage that can only blink with his long CD ult. The targeted CC also has a very tiny range compared to most skillshots. His fear is fine and can be played around, not unlike Malzahar ult, Poppy E, etc.
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May 11, 2019 00:17
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How Rude posted:Targeted CC is fine if it has some really important caveats. Namely the fear is attached to a very squishy, immobile mage that can only blink with his long CD ult. The targeted CC also has a very tiny range compared to most skillshots. Malz ult sucks too but at least it's an ult
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May 11, 2019 01:02
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How Rude posted:Targeted CC is fine if it has some really important caveats. Namely the fear is attached to a very squishy, immobile mage that can only blink with his long CD ult. The targeted CC also has a very tiny range compared to most skillshots. the difference in range between malzahar ult and fiddles fear is 125 units. i dont see how they are so far apart
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May 11, 2019 01:23
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kingcobweb posted:Nah dude that poo poo's bullshit. The ways you can "play around" a targeted 2-second fear just aren't that interesting. Fiddles was an infuriating support to play against before they hit his numbers, since his Q is a straight-up "gently caress your gank" button. In ye olden days (before they forced skillshots into the kits of perfectly usable champions like Taric, Kayle, Soraka, Ryze, loving Xin, and an uncountable amount of new releases), skillshots were much less common, and the game was Fine. One of the effects of skillshot bloat is shifting gameplay from interesting tactical positioning decisions to twitch reactions and silly mind-games. You "play around" targeted abilities and auto-attacks, regardless of whether they include CC or not, by positioning right and not entering their range when the pro/con calculation isn't in your favor. Fiddle's Q isn't a "gently caress your gank" button if the laners involved bait it out at the right moment. I guess you can can also argue that auto-attacks should also be turned into skill-shots because "playing around them is more interesting".
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May 11, 2019 02:14
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Ah yes, my favorite mechanic to use when playing around champion abilities, the "don't be in range at all" mechanic.
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May 11, 2019 05:16
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pog boyfriend posted:the difference in range between malzahar ult and fiddles fear is 125 units. i dont see how they are so far apart they are 125 units apart 
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May 11, 2019 05:37
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Why do we even have crit chance for ranged champs? +500 damage with a <1 second CD with no counter other than "don't get clicked on" is so bullshit Seriously though, silence is a fine mechanic that mirrors blindness in both its strengths and weaknesses. It's not great, it's not terrible, it's fine. The problem with Fid's silence is just that bounces so much and so far. He shouldn't be able to target a minion and silence the entire team from out of anyone's attack range on such a short cooldown
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May 11, 2019 05:40
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Umbreon posted:Ah yes, my favorite mechanic to use when playing around champion abilities, the "don't be in range at all" mechanic. the idea that every individual ability in the game requires counterplay is bad as poo poo
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It’s boring like Mundos press button for health regen. Which is why they all need reworks. Not sure why they only can do one a year though.
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