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Motronic posted:https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Drywall-Screw-Setter-4-Pack-DW2014C4/202302391  This is a prime example of the idea that is so stupid simple and obvious that it makes you go, "why didn't I think of that?"
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The extra bonus is that it dimples around the screw as it's caming out to make it easy to mud.
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May 10, 2019 04:40
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Motronic posted:https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Drywall-Screw-Setter-4-Pack-DW2014C4/202302391 Can confirm, these are the ultimate foolproof way to screw in drywall, unless you're an extraordinary fool.
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May 10, 2019 05:10
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Motronic posted:https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Drywall-Screw-Setter-4-Pack-DW2014C4/202302391 Yep. This is what I used. I wondered at first why they always come in packs, but after doing just two rooms I now see how fast the tips wear out.
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May 10, 2019 20:59
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SouthShoreSamurai posted:Yep. This is what I used. I wondered at first why they always come in packs, but after doing just two rooms I now see how fast the tips wear out. The speed at which screw and drill bits wear out (and the fact that they wear out at all) was one of the scales falling from my eyes when I started doing larger scale tasks.
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May 10, 2019 21:12
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Jaded Burnout posted:The speed at which screw and drill bits wear out (and the fact that they wear out at all) was one of the scales falling from my eyes when I started doing larger scale tasks. loving same, lol. I was like "why does this bucket of screws always come with its own bit?? I'm gonna have so many extra bits..." It turns out the bits literally strip after using half the screws in said bucket. Especially star bits.
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May 10, 2019 22:05
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Jaded Burnout posted:The speed at which screw and drill bits wear out (and the fact that they wear out at all) was one of the scales falling from my eyes when I started doing larger scale tasks. Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 23:30 on May 10, 2019 |
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May 10, 2019 23:24
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Motronic posted:https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Drywall-Screw-Setter-4-Pack-DW2014C4/202302391 Last time I bought a giant box of drywall screws I was very caught up in Robinson! Torx! Spax everything! gently caress Philips! mode. Robinson drywall screws? gently caress yes! No. Actually not good. and I'll have this box of screws until I die. Or gut the basement.
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May 11, 2019 01:43
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:I have no idea why square drive isn’t standard because it is waaaaay better than phillips. The story behind this is hilarious FYI Hubis fucked around with this message at 03:45 on May 11, 2019 |
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May 11, 2019 03:40
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torx bits last a really long time what are yall doing to the poor bits
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May 11, 2019 03:56
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BraveUlysses posted:torx bits last a really long time what are yall doing to the poor bits Probably using 15s to drive 20s, 20s to drive 25s, and so on. In my experience, that is the best way to shorten the life of a torx bit. It’ll work, so you might not notice right away, but it chews/twists the bit a lot. And also of course the included bits are a special kind of garbage. Bits should always be considered a consumable, but at least with torx, they can last a remarkably long time.
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May 11, 2019 04:09
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The only torx bit I've destroyed was a T50 that was used to remove seatbelts from an Astro van. It was actually still usable, but the bit had twisted almost 45 degrees after the brutality of breaking those bolts free. Is there anywhere to buy square drive drywall screws in small amounts online (without paying out the rear end)? None of the big box stores near me carry them.
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May 11, 2019 04:34
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TheBananaKing posted:Is there anywhere to buy square drive drywall screws in small amounts online (without paying out the rear end)? None of the big box stores near me carry them. Why would you want those? Even Canadians use Philips for drywall. quote:After all these years extolling the virtues of Square Drive screws, why would McFeely's begin offering Phillips recess screws? Simple. For installing sheet rock (without the use of an automatic screw gun) the Phillips recess just seems to work better - largely because it cams out so easily! Square Drive screws hold onto the driver bit so thoroughly that it is hard to set the screw at a depth that doesn't tear the paper. So in this case, that which is normally a disadvantage becomes an advantage. Who said life isn't fair?
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May 11, 2019 05:01
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I’ve got 3 of those long Kreg Robertson bits that are almost useless, does that count?
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May 11, 2019 05:03
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Platystemon posted:Why would you want those? I get it but I haven't had the need for speed as I'm usually only doing small patches or fixing nail pops here and there. Even taking my time the philips poo poo like to shred themselves on occasion and it's just annoying.
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May 11, 2019 05:53
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BraveUlysses posted:torx bits last a really long time what are yall doing to the poor bits Driving dozens of 6" long concrete screws into dense concrete blocks. Bad Munki posted:Probably using 15s to drive 20s, 20s to drive 25s, and so on. In my experience, that is the best way to shorten the life of a torx bit. The hell you say. I'm not an animal. Screw bits do wear much more slowly than drill bits, but the fact that they wear at all was still a surprise to lil ol me.
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May 11, 2019 07:55
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Imagine if driver bits weren’t a wear item. They would’t be included in packs of screws and we’d have the goddamn 10 mm socket problem with #2 Philips and T20.
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May 11, 2019 08:00
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Yah I just bought a tic tac pack each of T20 and impact-style #2 pozi and I'm good for a very long time.
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May 11, 2019 08:04
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SouthShoreSamurai posted:loving same, lol. I was like "why does this bucket of screws always come with its own bit?? I'm gonna have so many extra bits..." I basicallt only use torx bits or flat bits, the bits last me a long time, I mean they get buggered up but I find they still work fine. T20 and above, T15s and smaller suck.
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May 11, 2019 09:16
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Jaded Burnout posted:Yah I just bought a tic tac pack each of T20 and impact-style #2 pozi and I'm good for a very long time. We're remodeling our entire house, a 90-year-old farm house. The studs are so dense that after running new electric and drywalling 5 rooms, I have gone through about 3 full tic tac packs of #2 Philips - and 3 drills. I'm almost at the point of drilling pilot holes for drywall screws.
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May 11, 2019 13:31
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Its because the cheap bits you buy in gross are poo poo and most likely aren't meant to be used with an impact. No one buys the right impact bits. Probably shouldn't be sending drywall screws with an impact but most people dont have the right tool so they use what feels like the fastest tool
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May 11, 2019 14:47
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It seems very unlikely that you are going to put enough stress on a non-impact bit to break it when screwing into wood. Impact bits are generally softer, and thus are more prone to rounding when you cam out.
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May 11, 2019 16:00
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:Its because the cheap bits you buy in gross are poo poo and most likely aren't meant to be used with an impact. No one buys the right impact bits. Probably shouldn't be sending drywall screws with an impact but most people dont have the right tool so they use what feels like the fastest tool Condescending. We know how to read a product description.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Condescending. We know how to read a product description. I didn't mean it to be condescending, I had no idea I was blowing through the wrong bits until someone told me. It could easily have read and been just as true: I didn't know gross bits are poo poo, I didn't buy the right impact bits meant for impact drills, I used the wrong tool for drywall for years until someone told me. It feels more condescending to be like... did you know impact drills aren't meant to be used for drywall? Did you know there is a drill that has the speed but not the torque of an impact? Well??? Did you? Also, no, most people don't read product descriptions. Like your bosch miter saw clamp issues, it happens, someone tells you and you learn. There are a ton more knowledgeable people here than me, I just enjoy talking about this stuff. No big deal Harry Potter on Ice fucked around with this message at 16:20 on May 11, 2019 |
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May 11, 2019 16:16
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:I didn't mean it to be condescending, I had no idea I was blowing through the wrong bits until someone told me. It could easily have read and been just as true: I didn't know gross bits are poo poo, I didn't buy the right impact bits meant for impact drills, I used the wrong tool for drywall for years until someone told me. It feels more condescending to be like... did you know impact drills aren't meant to be used for drywall? Did you know there is a drill that has the speed but not the torque of an impact? Well??? Did you? Alright fair enough, just perhaps a bit too sweeping a statement. I mean, the bits I buy in bulk for my impact driver are good quality ones designed for impact drivers, so "the cheap bits you buy in gross are poo poo" and "No one buys the right impact bits" narked me off a bit.
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Yea for sure, I've just made so many common mistakes that I'm like oh nononono don't be like me that is the dumb way to do things, why aren't you doing things the right way. Any advice I have is 100% from making a mistake, watching someone else make a mistake or having someone else explain to me the right way of doing things. None of this is natural. Ideally I'll get to a place where I see and avoid mistakes but until then I'm stepping on all the rakes
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May 11, 2019 16:29
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I have had Phillips bits just snap driving 3” screws with an impact. They probably weren’t impact bits. Wear your safety glasses! I tried installing drywall with an impact and just shot screws straight through the paper- a regular drill with a clutch works a million times better. I used to use drywall screws for everything except pocket holes but then I discovered my cabinet supply place has self drilling square drive screws in literally every shape and size and I have never looked back. Spax are also great but ain’t cheap.
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May 11, 2019 16:41
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I use this sleeve for installing drywall, it accepts regular pbits so potentially could be used with any type of screw. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-7-Piece-1-in-2-Drywall-Phillips-High-Speed-Steel-Hex-Shank-Screwdriver-Bit-Set/3460410
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Suggestions for a solid side-handle corded drill with 1/2" keyed chuck that stands a chance of being handed down to my kids? Currently toying with a Makita spade handle vs. DeWalt spade handle. Whatever I get will spend a fair amount of time spinning 4"-6" hole saws.
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Butch Cassidy posted:Suggestions for a solid side-handle corded drill with 1/2" keyed chuck that stands a chance of being handed down to my kids? Currently toying with a Makita spade handle vs. DeWalt spade handle. Whatever I get will spend a fair amount of time spinning 4"-6" hole saws. https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-7-8-Amp-1-2-in-Variable-Speed-Reversing-Drill-DW235G/100050769 Makita always makes good stuff too. Don't think you'll go wrong with either.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:We're remodeling our entire house, a 90-year-old farm house. The studs are so dense that after running new electric and drywalling 5 rooms, I have gone through about 3 full tic tac packs of #2 Philips - and 3 drills. I'm almost at the point of drilling pilot holes for drywall screws. 90 years ago the availability of quality, old growth lumber was much greater. The U.S. East, Midwest and South used to be a literal rainforest before the hordes overran it like the festering, ravenous, insatiable, drunken termites they were. Pause. But, hey, it was a living. Plus those studs have had that long to cure out, and who knows, they could be yellow pine or some other hardwood equivalent.
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I've got a set of air-powered nailers that I like, but occasionally want to use just to drive a couple of nails at a time fixing things around the house. Is there an easy way to run them off a cartridge or small tank instead of dragging out my compressor ever time I want to use them to drive a couple of nails, or should I look into a battery-powered nailer in my ecosystem (DeWalt 20v)?
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Butch Cassidy posted:Suggestions for a solid side-handle corded drill with 1/2" keyed chuck that stands a chance of being handed down to my kids? Currently toying with a Makita spade handle vs. DeWalt spade handle. Whatever I get will spend a fair amount of time spinning 4"-6" hole saws. I use the Makita one with a forward / reverse on like a rocker trigger. Only complaint is it's not variable speed. Works great for mixing concrete, but the single speed kinda sucks. I'd get this one next time. It also seems like it'll be very easy to lose the Chuck key.
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Brute Squad posted:Is there an easy way to run them off a cartridge or small tank instead of dragging out my compressor ever time I want to use them to drive a couple of nails This is what I do. I just bought a smaller, light, tank (https://www.harborfreight.com/5-gallon-portable-air-tank-65594.html) and added a pressure regulator (https://www.harborfreight.com/150-PSI-Air-Compressor-Regulator-Kit-with-Dial-Gauge-68223.html) and lightweight coiled hose (https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-x-25-ft-coiled-polyurethane-air-hose-61974.html) + female quick connect on it. Then, I made a male-to-male quick connect short length of hose that I use to connect it to the main compressor to fill it with air. Use your main compressor to fill the tank up to the max (125psi) and set the regulator to the 90psi or whatever for the tool. I can get a few dozen nails, top off some tires, or even enough to crack a stubborn nut with the impact with the small tank. I personally don't like the battery nailers: they're bulky, heavy, and slow. If I'm shooting a zillion nails, I'll break out the pancake compressor, but the portable tank is great for quick jobs where I need portability.
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Mr. Mambold posted:90 years ago the availability of quality, old growth lumber was much greater. The U.S. East, Midwest and South used to be a literal rainforest before the hordes overran it like the festering, ravenous, insatiable, drunken termites they were. I love the idea that people are salvaging ships that have been sunken for over a century for the lumber they are made from, like some kind arboreal pre-atomic steel. e: also we apparently sunk so many just floating them down rivers like idiots that there is an entire industry in dredging them up: https://www.timelesstimber.com/ Hubis fucked around with this message at 03:56 on May 12, 2019 |
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Mr. Mambold posted:90 years ago the availability of quality, old growth lumber was much greater. The U.S. East, Midwest and South used to be a literal rainforest before the hordes overran it like the festering, ravenous, insatiable, drunken termites they were. It smells like pine at least, but I don't know for sure what kind. Anyway, sometimes I'll simply not be able to screw in the last 1/4" and I've even sheared off screw heads a few times trying. I took to using thinner and shorter screws and that did help some. Even trying to nail in the baseboards and so forth presented a challenge; it seemed like I was bending every other nail at times. I did start drilling those. I never used the impact setting on the drill for screws though; I figured that would make things worse for consuming the bits. I think the main culprit trashing the drills was the wiring though. Using a spade bit is even more of a chore on these studs and many times it would just catch and dead stop the bit - hard on my wrists too.
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Hubis posted:I love the idea that people are salvaging ships that have been sunken for over a century for the lumber they are made from, like some kind arboreal pre-atomic steel. Only way to get bogwood, like this really nice form of blackened oak, the baltic sea in particular is one of the environments it can develop in because it's brackish and shipworm cannot survive there.
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Hubis posted:I love the idea that people are salvaging ships that have been sunken for over a century for the lumber they are made from, like some kind arboreal pre-atomic steel. They're doing similar down in Tasmania as well. Pulling timber out of a dam that was flooded for hydro power years ago. It looks pretty awesome. http://www.hydrowood.com.au/
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:It smells like pine at least, but I don't know for sure what kind. Anyway, sometimes I'll simply not be able to screw in the last 1/4" and I've even sheared off screw heads a few times trying. I took to using thinner and shorter screws and that did help some. Even trying to nail in the baseboards and so forth presented a challenge; it seemed like I was bending every other nail at times. I did start drilling those. I never used the impact setting on the drill for screws though; I figured that would make things worse for consuming the bits. You'd probably be (or have been if you're near done) using an auger bit and one of those 1/2" 2 handle drills for that.
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Why do I have so much trouble finding brad-tip wood drill bits in the sizes I want? Do most people just use generic drill bits for wood and I'm the weird one? Finding e.g. 3.5mm bits in bulk is real difficult.
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