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Jeep dealerships can print money on Gladiators. The demand for those is going to be PT Cruiser insane. Is Nitro fill what I think it is? Are they really charging $500 to fill your tires with nitrogen?
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Krispy Wafer posted:Jeep dealerships can print money on Gladiators. The demand for those is going to be PT Cruiser insane. Because ITS PROFESSIONAL GRADE!! And they also have PROFESSIONAL GRADE nitrogen shocks.
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May 11, 2019 18:37
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Volmarias posted:You don't need door dash, you just pay the cell companies for it.
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May 11, 2019 18:39
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Cacafuego posted:Crosspost: Is dealer mark just the markup? Cuz goddamn
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May 11, 2019 18:40
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I mean it’s calling people marks right there.
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May 11, 2019 18:54
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Jeep owners are a whole other breed of BWM. There's a forum for just the most recent generation, which has barely been in production for a year and it has more activity than most SA threads. But you do get gems like this:  He managed to hit a bystander while doing that bad enough to require a medivac. That's going to be some insurance rate increase.
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May 11, 2019 19:07
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Cacafuego posted:Crosspost: what the gently caress
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May 11, 2019 19:26
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Cacafuego posted:Crosspost: I looked on their online builder, and gone top end and most of addons, still couldn't get it to 57k.
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May 11, 2019 20:05
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If you want, you can google the VIN and find the options. Among other things, that one is the Rubicon model which starts at $43.5K.
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May 11, 2019 20:57
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Maxing out everything I managed to get to 61k. So that plus 15k in dealer markups will make it $75k+. And that’s before sales tax. There’s a waiting list on these so...yeah. Someone will pay that price and think themselves lucky for it.
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May 11, 2019 21:06
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Krispy Wafer posted:Maxing out everything I managed to get to 61k. So that plus 15k in dealer markups will make it $75k+. And that’s before sales tax. Bolded the important part. Limited supply plus large demand equals dealers being able to charge whatever the gently caress kind of markup they want. Dealer markup isn't anything like that on the random current model year sedan sitting on the lot next to the other 3 with slightly different mixes of color/trim/etc.
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May 11, 2019 21:11
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MSRP should already contain the dealer markup (MSRP vs factory invoice), so this is literally just a "F U" price.
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May 11, 2019 21:33
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Lockback posted:MSRP should already contain the dealer markup (MSRP vs factory invoice), so this is literally just a "F U" price. Yes, but....do you know what the "S" in MSRP stands for?
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May 11, 2019 21:46
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Wonderful. Why even bother selling the nitro fill for 600 when you're bald faced lying it's worth 15k over msrp.
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May 11, 2019 21:49
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StormDrain posted:Wonderful. Why even bother selling the nitro fill for 600 when you're bald faced lying it's worth 15k over msrp. If some idiot wants to pay for it, why wouldn't you sell it?
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May 11, 2019 21:54
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If people are buying it then it's not overpriced. The last time there was a vehicle in this much demand might have been the P.T. Cruiser. This Jeep is only about 23% over MSRP. People were buying P.T. Cruisers for 50% over MSRP. Granted, 50% over MSRP was still only a $30k car.
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May 11, 2019 22:21
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Krispy Wafer posted:Jeep owners are a whole other breed of BWM. There's a forum for just the most recent generation, which has barely been in production for a year and it has more activity than most SA threads. Anyone else suddenly feel like watching Ghost Dad? Yeah, me neither.
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May 11, 2019 22:49
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Krispy Wafer posted:If people are buying it then it's not overpriced. Lol
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May 11, 2019 23:14
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Krispy Wafer posted:If people are buying it then it's not overpriced. I can't believe people were paying a premium for those. They were such lovely cars.
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May 11, 2019 23:42
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Cyrano4747 posted:I can't believe people were paying a premium for those. They were such lovely cars. Wait till you find out about Jeep "quality."
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May 11, 2019 23:50
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Nocheez posted:Wait till you find out about Jeep "quality." Senior year of high school I was standing on a corner when a PT Cruiser got t-boned right in front of me. I think this was the first year the Cruiser was out. I was one of the first people there, calling 911, and generally trying to do what I could (which wasn't much other than talk to 911 and tell them the intersection). The passenger side door blew into the cab. Not all the way in, but it was pinning the passenger pretty bad. She was pretty hosed up.
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May 11, 2019 23:59
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Krispy Wafer posted:Jeep owners are a whole other breed of BWM. There's a forum for just the most recent generation, which has barely been in production for a year and it has more activity than most SA threads. Ouch, right in the angry eyes (rawr so angry) that I assume it has/had installed.
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May 12, 2019 00:22
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May 12, 2019 00:23
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When I was working at a car rental place just out of college I drove PT cruiser they had kicking around and I was blown away by how lovely the interior plastics were and how poor the fit and finish was. I am not a car guy and usually don't notice that type of thing but it was painfully obvious. I think even the Chevy Aveo was nicer to drive, and those are tiny tin can cars with no leg room that also managed to have a huge blind spot because of how they designed the qindows/pillars.
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May 12, 2019 01:10
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Cyrano4747 posted:Senior year of high school I was standing on a corner when a PT Cruiser got t-boned right in front of me. I think this was the first year the Cruiser was out. I was one of the first people there, calling 911, and generally trying to do what I could (which wasn't much other than talk to 911 and tell them the intersection). probably true of pretty much any car you could have bought at the time. side impact was shockingly bad until about 10-15 years ago.
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May 12, 2019 01:38
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:probably true of pretty much any car you could have bought at the time. side impact was shockingly bad until about 10-15 years ago. Surprisingly enough, saturns were some of the first to get this right. It was such a big deal at the time that we (FD vehicle extraction techs) were specifically trained on them, and GM was sending around cars with cut out body panels so we could see how the system worked along with course materials. It was essentially high strength steel bars that may or may not end up through the door jamb depending on the impact, but they keep the passenger compartment intrusion to a minimum. Problem is our normal hydraulic tools won't cut them so you need to know where they are and where they go so you can cut access to pull them out to open/pry off the door.
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May 12, 2019 01:44
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The worst day of my life was judging the PT Cruisers at a big auto show. They volunteered to judge our group (Toyota Supra club) so it was only fair, but picking out the nicest turd is difficult.
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May 12, 2019 03:53
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I worked on a ferry in the summer of 2004 and for some reason all the French tourists had rented PT Cruisers that summer. I’m pretty sure I’d still get shivers if someone called out “PT Cruiser, four pax” over a radio to this day. Also none of them knew how to drive automatic which just boggles the mind.
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May 12, 2019 04:01
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FrozenVent posted:I worked on a ferry in the summer of 2004 and for some reason all the French tourists had rented PT Cruisers that summer. I don't drive as much anymore since I work from home, on in the weekends I use my wife's car that is a manual because it's bigger for cutting kids and groceries. Sometimes when I switch back to mine I keep reaching for the stick, so I kind of get that they might have a really ingrained muscle memory and if they have literally never driven an auto I could see it.
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May 12, 2019 04:36
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People liked the PT? We always called it the PT loser.
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May 12, 2019 04:50
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My dad's not a car guy, but the only rental he ever returned/exchanged on a family trip was a PT cruiser.
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May 12, 2019 06:53
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spwrozek posted:People liked the PT? Boomers loved them.
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May 12, 2019 10:04
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Nocheez posted:Boomers loved them. This. My Dad has been a die hard chrysler/jeep guy since I was a kid. We had a reliant K wagon and all that. The early 90's cherokee was worthy of praise, but when that PT came out, my Dad wanted to pre-order one. That whole era of new old cars was nuts. The PT, the Plymouth Prowler, the SSR, the new Beetle, the new Mini, the new Thunderbird. Chrysler capitalized on it pretty hard with the Charger and Challenger too. The only one that really kept going was the Challenger after all these years. All the classics got redone and all the boomers wanted the woody panel wagons that the cooler boomers had when they were younger. Remember the wood sided PTs and Mini vans? All of that was because of those woody vans.
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I was looking up stuff on PT Cruisers and it's just bananas. There were Cruiser clubs all of the world and people spent tens of thousands of dollars customizing their cars with suicide doors and all kinds of extras. I remember people being angry that Chrysler couldn't get a Hemi into their faux hotrod. I think they finally managed to squeeze in a faster engine a few years later. But it was also probably the first popular crossover vehicle. It was a pile of poo poo, but it was a pile of poo poo that had good storage and a higher seating position. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoxqtnI4I4c
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May 12, 2019 13:08
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The pt cruiser was a shittier Neon that had less horsepower and worse quality. It didn't even have the ability to keep going on sheer hatred like the Neon would, Neons would have to die by fire to finally give up the ghost and be ready for the scrap yard.
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May 12, 2019 13:19
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Yeah it sold ok but was still a niche vehicle. It would not have been a top 30 selling model and for point of comparison they sold about as many PT Cruisers in ten model years from 2001-2010 as Ford sells F-150s in any one model year.
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May 12, 2019 13:29
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Crosspost: Xenoborg posted:What category do amusement parks fall into and is there a better than 2% rewards card for them? Looking to spend 3k at universal studios. I guess since I live here spending $3k at universal studios is mind bogglingly BWM, but at least this goon is looking to get some cash back?
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May 12, 2019 14:13
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:Yeah it sold ok but was still a niche vehicle. It would not have been a top 30 selling model and for point of comparison they sold about as many PT Cruisers in ten model years from 2001-2010 as Ford sells F-150s in any one model year. Yeah but putting bullet hole decals on your F-150 is unconscionable, whereas with the PT Cruiser...
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May 12, 2019 14:19
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Is it just my own observational bias, or did PT Cruisers seem to be broken down or burned out on the side of the road way more often than any other vehicle?
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UCS Hellmaker posted:The pt cruiser was a shittier Neon that had less horsepower and worse quality. It didn't even have the ability to keep going on sheer hatred like the Neon would, Neons would have to die by fire to finally give up the ghost and be ready for the scrap yard. Ahhh, you don't live in the great salted north I see. Neons have rusted away here pretty long ago - like, the unibody in important places like where the suspension connects to it. BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:as Ford sells F-150s in any one model year. I mean, I get what you're trying to say here, but the F-150 is the best selling vehicle in the WORLD many years on and off and has been the best selling truck in the US for something ridiculous like 4 decades. I'm not sure it's a reasonable comparison.
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