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Epicurius posted:There is a Popeye's in Famagusta, and a Johnny Rockets in Lefkosa. The real interesting question is were there any chains in Varosha before the Turkish invasion. Is there an abandoned 70's Burger King out there waiting for archaeologists.
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Quorum posted:Turkey: really big on Starbucks for some reason. They have a huge cafe culture probably larger than any european country, but are also disgusting capitalist pigs with poo poo taste and a fetish for American brands. The tiny town of 10k people I'm usually living in has TWO american style shopping malls. It's like who is even buying all this poo poo.
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Do Turkish Starbucks serve the regional type of coffee, the one that is brown liquid cocaine?
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May 12, 2019 05:03
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Grape posted:Do Turkish Starbucks serve the regional type of coffee, the one that is brown liquid cocaine? I'm not sure I've never been inside Starbucks there. There's always like a dozen other cafes nearby, which are usually cheaper anyway. It's literally only american fetishism that gives them their business. I imagine they do have it on menu for touristbucks but I doubt they actually take the time to make it properly.
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May 12, 2019 05:14
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Zurakara posted:I'm not sure I've never been inside Starbucks there. There's always like a dozen other cafes nearby, which are usually cheaper anyway. It's literally only american fetishism that gives them their business. I imagine they do have it on menu for touristbucks but I doubt they actually take the time to make it properly. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 06:35 on May 12, 2019 |
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May 12, 2019 06:33
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You’re telling me Häagen-Dazs isn’t authentic Danish ice cream? It has an umlaut, it must be! In the US and Canada there is a chain of fast-casual Japanese restaurants called Sarku. Sarku is a name invented by a Canadian marketing agency that isn’t even pronounceable in Japanese.
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May 12, 2019 06:52
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Toplowtech posted:Yeah never underestimate the rage of the fat American tourists when they can't find their favorite corporate products. Saw that myself in the late 90s with a fat American lady losing her poo poo in a shop because Häagen-Dazs wasn't selling its ice creams in France at that time. The American ice cream brand that made up a name that would sound European to give the brand a hint of quality 
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May 12, 2019 06:54
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advanced statsman posted:further up north they go to poo poo chains like hesburger or they just spend time in parking lots I've eaten a Hesburger. I didn't know it was possible to fit that much mayonnaise between two halves of a bun
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May 12, 2019 07:07
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Zurakara posted:I'm not sure I've never been inside Starbucks there. There's always like a dozen other cafes nearby, which are usually cheaper anyway. It's literally only american fetishism that gives them their business. I imagine they do have it on menu for touristbucks but I doubt they actually take the time to make it properly. i mean if i eat at a Panda Express does that make me a China fetishist? idk man sometimes you just wanna try something foreign and maybe get a little variety. Panda Express might not be the best example of this since it is actually American food but then hey Americans don't know that anyway. On the other hand Starbucks cappuccinos are a crime against humanity
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May 12, 2019 07:35
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Imagine being the person that chooses to go to the Starbucks in Italy though.
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May 12, 2019 11:27
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Toplowtech posted:Yeah never underestimate the rage of the fat American tourists when they can't find their favorite corporate products. Saw that myself in the late 90s with a fat American lady losing her poo poo in a shop because Häagen-Dazs wasn't selling its ice creams in France at that time. I've never witnessed that. I'm not classist but I assume those types of American never leave their home state, or go on holiday to Florida at the very farthest. Although I can't imagine living in one of the ultra-cliché destinations like Paris, Venice or Barcelona. Through sheer numbers you must get a lot of pond scum
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Phlegmish posted:I've never witnessed that. I'm not classist but I assume those types of American never leave their home state, or go on holiday to Florida at the very farthest. Paris is a gigantic city, it's totally different from Venice or even Barcelona. The tourism is only really visible in a few areas of a city like Paris or London
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True, true. I needn't have gone far, Bruges is probably one of the most lopsided cities in that regard.
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Zudgemud posted:The American ice cream brand that made up a name that would sound European to give the brand a hint of quality Phlegmish posted:I've never witnessed that. I'm not classist but I assume those types of American never leave their home state, or go on holiday to Florida at the very farthest. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 13:21 on May 12, 2019 |
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May 12, 2019 13:18
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it seems that the small to medium sized cities are usually more embittered toward tourists since there is no way to escape. I think it is having an psychological effect on Italy in particular. (Prague is a a larger city and honestly it gets pretty overrun even outside the old city.)
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May 12, 2019 13:31
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It's the reason I have no desire to visit Barcelona or Venice despite my cultural interest in them, the throngs of tourists and jaded locals just don't make it seem like it would be a good experience.
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May 12, 2019 13:40
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Ardennes posted:(Prague is a a larger city and honestly it gets pretty overrun even outside the old city.) Back in the day I always dreaded taking classes in the old town University buildings, because I would have to fight against endless streams of tourists just pouring out of every street. And I normally dislike even going to the mall because there are too many people. Tourists suck.
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May 12, 2019 13:42
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Ardennes posted:it seems that the small to medium sized cities are usually more embittered toward tourists since there is no way to escape. I think it is having an psychological effect on Italy in particular. Do you mean "escape from the tourists who are everywhere" or that the locals will likely never escape their town are are bitter towards tourists because of it? Because I've never really considered the latter idea, but it makes a lot of sense.
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May 12, 2019 14:09
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When I visited England some years ago all of the rural-ish places I visited - Cambridge, Ely, etc - seemed pretty friendly to tourists. Even London, in places like Piccadilly and Soho, seemed chill. It might have been because I was super polite and quiet though.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Do you mean "escape from the tourists who are everywhere" or that the locals will likely never escape their town are are bitter towards tourists because of it? More there is just no where to hide in some cities and towns. Also, I do think there is issue with locals joining the service industry and in turn becoming progressively more bitter over time. Also it probably helps that Cambridge has always been a university town, so a highly transient population is the norm there. (That said there is a very clear townie divide there) and London is so big that tourists just get lost in the shuffle. I contrast Prague only really has seen tourism explode in the last 20 years or so and the city isn’t big enough to absorb that many tourists. A lot of the districts outside of the center also have hostels filled with drunken tourists at this point. Most cities in Italy are also to small not to get swept up.
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Ardennes posted:More there is just no where to hide in some cities and towns. Also, I do think there is issue with locals joining the service industry and in turn becoming progressively more bitter over time. Cambridge is also chock full of tech workers from outside the city, of the two (having lived in both) I find that Oxford has a much more distinct local flavour. And it is considerably more populous, too.
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May 12, 2019 15:14
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Orange Devil posted:Imagine being the person that chooses to go to the Starbucks in Italy though. I think I saw an article about Starbucks opening their first Italian locations recently. Apparently they aren't just generic Starbucks, they gave them some fancy name like Starbucks Select Cafe or something, and made an effort to make the coffee not total poo poo, but I doubt they succeeded.
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May 12, 2019 15:18
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Italy rules. Even the dinkiest corner shop has a specific cheese session with a selection of fancy and smelly cheeses. These people take their food and drink extremely seriously.
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Phlegmish posted:It's the reason I have no desire to visit Barcelona or Venice despite my cultural interest in them, the throngs of tourists and jaded locals just don't make it seem like it would be a good experience. Go in winter. This is the secret to all Mediterranean hotspots. Unless you were really set on going to the beach this works out pretty well. FreudianSlippers posted:Italy rules. Italian food is supremely good on both the FOUR STAR BISTRO level and the "Come on over, Grandma's making her meatballs tonight" level. Grape fucked around with this message at 17:26 on May 12, 2019 |
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Grape posted:Go in winter.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Do you mean "escape from the tourists who are everywhere" or that the locals will likely never escape their town are are bitter towards tourists because of it? Now imagine whole islands stuck in that rut! My oldest brother in law's wedding was at a hotel, and we had drunk Northern Euro women from somewhere on the sidelines getting all excited by the Zeibekiko dancing like it was a show. One of them almost seemed to be trying to wander into the proceedings with her own weak drunk attempt at dancing. The idea that this was a private family event seemed to not register, instead it was a fun sightseeing opportunity/event!!! Yayy!
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Grape posted:Italian food is supremely good on both the FOUR STAR BISTRO level and the "Come on over, Grandma's making her meatballs tonight" level. A big complaint in Tuscany nowadays (from locals) is that the quality of food seems to be declining. I don’t know personally if that is the case but it is a heavy charge from Italians.
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Ardennes posted:A big complaint in Tuscany nowadays (from locals) is that the quality of food seems to be declining. I don’t know personally if that is the case but it is a heavy charge from Italians. Neapolitan supremacy.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Italy rules. Oh that reminds me:  These things are loving delicious and if you can find some you should buy some. edit: oh poo poo, this isn't UKMT. Nevertheless my point stands.
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Phlegmish posted:Can't really recall seeing a Starbucks in Belgium myself, but apparently they exist. I was shocked to see one even right in the Grand Place in Brussels. Like, ... why? Why would anyone? Ever?
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I know there are starbucks in the bigger Belgian train stations - I know there are starbucks in Ghent St-Pieters, Antwerp central, Brussels central and bxl south, probably in Liege . Makes sense, since that way they can prey on impulse purchases. edit: here's a map that shows all
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You guys seem really mad about Starbucks which, while very lame, seems fairly innocuous next to something like McDonalds
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Ras Het posted:You guys seem really mad about Starbucks which, while very lame, seems fairly innocuous next to something like McDonalds
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Burgers are extremely American 
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Burgers are extremely American So why do American burgers suck so much? They don't even have two kinds of mayonnaise in them! 
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Jerry Cotton posted:So why do American burgers suck so much? They don't even have two kinds of mayonnaise in them! There's more than one kind of mayonnaise? Also, who hurt you that you'd willingly put mayonnaise on a burger?
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Grape posted:Even in the homelands of kebab/gyro teens still hit up Micky D's with regularity. And KFC. We need a map that is a round up of appalling international culinary abominations like ketchup on Pizza Hut pizza. On second thought, we might start a war. Nevermind.
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Rolabi Wizenard posted:We need a map that is a round up of appalling international culinary abominations like ketchup on Pizza Hut pizza. how about a map of good food:  
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Phlegmish posted:They poo poo on it because it's a mediocre fast food chain, not because it's American, do you think you own the concept of fast food Why would you poo poo on something of “moderate quality”? 
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