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i wonder if anyone at HBO saw the backlash coming. Not like they could do much about it but I'm curious if everyone knew this was going to be a shitshow or if they're just surprised
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Smirking_Serpent posted:i wonder if anyone at HBO saw the backlash coming. Not like they could do much about it but I'm curious if everyone knew this was going to be a shitshow or if they're just surprised everybody probably likes it
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May 13, 2019 12:00
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It's the best episode of a Season 8 where this is Episode 2 and also they had been developing Danery's character for this since Season 6/7.
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May 13, 2019 12:00
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I liked then part were no one from KL armies did anything except getting killed. Talk about owned he Cersi? Maybe you shouldnt have killed useless translator lady?
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Smirking_Serpent posted:i wonder if anyone at HBO saw the backlash coming. Not like they could do much about it but I'm curious if everyone knew this was going to be a shitshow or if they're just surprised didn't D&D say they're planning on escaping to a tropical island and avoiding all contact with the outside world for a while after this ends?
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May 13, 2019 12:05
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gently caress that they need to be put on trial for their crimes
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May 13, 2019 12:06
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I'm hoping for a reboot set in an alternate universe where Jon was born with very obvious platinum blond hair.
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Dany: we had to destroy kings landing in order to save it. Woke Progressives: Hell yea medieval morality ftw
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bring back old gbs posted:grrm gave the show makers all his secret bad ideas so he could put all the good ideas in the next book Next book lol
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Smirking_Serpent posted:i wonder if anyone at HBO saw the backlash coming. Not like they could do much about it but I'm curious if everyone knew this was going to be a shitshow or if they're just surprised I'm betting that their philosophy for the show is entirely based around creating "Red Wedding moments", along with the accompanying buzz.
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The whole Dany being good-oh-no-wait-she-really-was-evil-all-along would have been a bit more hard hitting and natural if: A: Foreshadowing was taken into account. B: D&D weren't the writers. C: Emilia Clarke knew how to act. Instead we have a perfect storm of some of the worst writing and imagination. The thing is it's not really this seasons fault, it's more a combination of the last number of seasons not really exploring Dany's character beyond "I have dragons". Let's keep in mind that for a good three to four seasons seasons she effectively did gently caress all. If you compare her story to Cersei's you can see the fundamental flaw - Cersei goes through absolute hell and comes out of it and yeah, sure, she's evil as gently caress, but you at least understand why she's like that. Dany though doesn't achieve anything - her character doesn't develop, her reasons don't evolve, she's just a static brat who wants the throne. That she's done an about turn and gone batshit insane isn't clever of the writers, nor is it some sort of pulling the rug from underneath us. Instead it just comes off as bizarre and frankly comical. That everything is so ridiculously rushed toward an inevitability disappointing end just adds on to the sort of comic dumb nature of the show. This series is so fundamentally broken because George wanted to do War of the Roses, but got caught up in his fantasy crap, and the TV series has never known how to balance complexity with viewing numbers, so has just gone full blown patronisingly explaining everything to the viewer as if they're a child. Communist Bear fucked around with this message at 12:30 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 12:23
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All those dipshits who named their kid Kahleesi are probably feeling real good about that right now lol
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the last shot of the show is gonna be some peasant standing around the burning rubble in kings landing saying "i sure am tired of all these game of thrones"
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Chrs Gry posted:All those dipshits who named their kid Kahleesi are probably feeling real good about that right now lol The worst is they could have chosen "Dany" and kept plausible deniability.
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Communist Bear posted:full blown patronisingly explaining everything to the viewer as if they're a child. I really like how the after-episode explanation of the obvious really drives this point home.
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May 13, 2019 12:40
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Lol at Dany starting an invasion on a soveirgn nation, carpet-bombing the surrendered-capital-city and its ruling government to ashes, and probably planning to go back to her previous kingdom like nothing ever happened.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Someone elaborate. A few seaons ago a crone told her all her kids would die and she'd be killed by her brother. And if they can awkwardly fudge Arya's prophecy about eye colour into their vision then I guess they can lend credence to their brilliance by naming a pile of bricks.
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Next time on Game of Thrones.. *Close up on Danys face sweating bullets* Voiceover: ughhh my stomach hurts! *Flashback to her eating the horses heart* Dany:I can't stop making GBS threads! *Close up on Jon looking worried* Jon: I'll always love you my queen! *Fade to Black. Sounds of making GBS threads and a fading scream*
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Methanar posted:In S1E1, Jaime Lannister pushes Bran Stark out of a window. This is subtle foreshadowing for S8E5, where eight seasons of Jaime's character development are similarly thrown out the window. Jamie pushed Bran out a window because he wanted to see time fly
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May 13, 2019 12:46
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Is the "the building is named Little Brother" real or are people just meme-ing?
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YaketySass posted:Is the "the building is named Little Brother" real or are people just meme-ing? I hope it's true. It'd be the biggest, hackiest piece of poo poo move and I'd love it.
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So Cersei was not killed by any of her brothers? All of this prophecy poo poo is fakenews?
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Her brother was there though, maybe he fell on her when the stuff collapsed and did the final blow with that or something. Wouldn't rule anything out at this point.
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May 13, 2019 12:52
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GoT died to give us this. Was it worth it?  no.
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tino posted:So Cersei was not killed by any of her brothers? All of this prophecy poo poo is fakenews? Prophecies only matter when they can be retro-actively crammed in to make the writers look smart.
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YaketySass posted:Is the "the building is named Little Brother" real or are people just meme-ing? It's a meme. 
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Drunken Baker posted:Prophecies only matter when they can be retro-actively crammed in to make the writers look smart. Which makes it more hilarious when they're not used.
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Chrs Gry posted:All those dipshits who named their kid Kahleesi are probably feeling real good about that right now lol "Um...it's pronounced Kelly C, my parents just want and unconventional spelling."
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Kelly Cray-Cray
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Communist Bear posted:That she's done an about turn and gone batshit insane isn't clever of the writers, nor is it some sort of pulling the rug from underneath us. Instead it just comes off as bizarre and frankly comical. That everything is so ridiculously rushed toward an inevitability disappointing end just adds on to the sort of comic dumb nature of the show. It wasn't the greatest build up in the world, but the seeds were always there. The show writers culled a lot of bloat from the Mereen plot, but they also cut out the one important bit, which was that everything that went wrong was directly or indirectly a result of Dany's paranoia and inexperience. Instead, the Sons of the Harpy were just a nebulous force with no cause other than the return of slavery. Season 7 was hell of stupid, but it did also show her brutally murdering the only two characters who told her to her face that a foreign invader leading armies of marauders and slaves is not something people will easily accept. E: tino posted:So Cersei was not killed by any of her brothers? All of this prophecy poo poo is fakenews? They cut that part of the prophecy from the show; she just got told all her kids were gonna die and a younger queen would usurp her. They left in the Azor Ahai prophecy, though, and I'm really not sure how that gets squared away besides "the Lord of Light sorta forgot that his champion was supposed to kill their lover and get a badass flaming sword." Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 13:06 on May 13, 2019 |
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Arya: Spends the entirety of the series becoming a silent assassin ninja badass on a quest for revenge. Gets within inches of achieving her goals. The Hound: "But you might die." Arya: 
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Clawtopsy posted:*teleports army behind you*
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The snow zombies should have won imo
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:It wasn't the greatest build up in the world, but the seeds were always there. The show writers culled a lot of bloat from the Mereen plot, but they also cut out the one important bit, which was that everything that went wrong was directly or indirectly a result of Dany's paranoia and inexperience. Instead, the Sons of the Harpy were just a nebulous force with no cause other than the return of slavery. Season 7 was hell of stupid, but it did also show her brutally murdering the only two characters who told her to her face that a foreign invader leading armies of marauders and slaves is not something people will easily accept. The problem imo is that the show is mostly stuck between moments of violence where the intended emotion wheelspins between "grimly badass" and "holy gently caress, too far", and which character gets which seems to follow Calvinball rules. There's very little sense of an ethos on the part of the showrunners outside of what's needed for the plot to progress.
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:How are people complaining about CLEGANE BOWL? I'd prefer if it was Limmy
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Solar Tornado posted:Lol at Dany starting an invasion on a soveirgn nation, carpet-bombing the surrendered-capital-city and its ruling government to ashes, and probably planning to go back to her previous kingdom like nothing ever happened. 
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I think the show can do the heel turn better if they just put more thought into it. For example, have Euron injury Drogon's wing. Drogon can not fly high anymore and can only chicken-fly. This enrage both Dany and Drogon and they go to town with the slum session of KL and basically killdozer their way to the palace. Also they really need some more dramatic music and closeup of Dany's crazy eyes for the heel turn.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:They left in the Azor Ahai prophecy, though, and I'm really not sure how that gets squared away besides "the Lord of Light sorta forgot that his champion was supposed to kill their lover and get a badass flaming sword." Arya gets pregnant and dies in childbirth, Gendry gets gonorrhea.
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