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Vintersorg posted:You really believe that poo poo when you got a bunch of online idiots bombing reviews for movies and video games. It's cool to exaggerate the hate on the show right now. Rotten Tomatoes review score is based on critic reviews. So people who are verified as working in the media news industry and are paid, their content has to be published on a site like New York Times, or a local news paper website. It's not an exaggeration that people hate this season.
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Macaluso posted:I and all of my IRL friends and most regular rear end people I have seen on twitter have mostly been fine with the show up until this episode. This episode I have seen nothing but hate from those on twitter I follow that like the show and even my IRL friends all have the same consensus that last night's episode was trash. Eh, this episode was significantly better than last week's. If anyone was fine with last week and then not fine with last night, they need to get their head checked.
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10/10 ep for causing the Dany Stans to lose their minds and also winning the debate with my girlfriend about Dany being poo poo
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Raccooon posted:Jon got any big kills? Olly
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Dany literally said she is going to rule by fear at the start of the episode but I was still surprised when she said gently caress your surrender and nuked Kings Landing
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Plot armor can withstand such cuts as easily as a fridge can save you from a nuke.
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Hobo Clown posted:Olly lol
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Does someone have every name on Arya’s list?
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Captain Jesus posted:Cleganebowl was bad because nothing was at stake, compared for example to the Oberyn/The Mountain fight. The fight itself was also pretty unremarkable. The Hound should have stabbed buff Varys in the eye with the dagger right away instead of stabbing him repeatedly in other places with no effect. Nothing was preventing him from stabbing the eye immediately when he took it out. The scene was at least 50% fan service to begin with. The Mountain was clearly not a zombie automation as they went out of their way to show him break his orders and kill Qyburn because of his inner hate for his bro. The fight was fine, I don't believe either of the brothers were ever depicted as spectacular or talented swordsman, they both relied on their brute strength and durability to beat most of their opponents. Ultimately, Sandor's greatest achievement was redeeming Arya and his final fight with his brother was in his mind always going to lead to his own death. The scene played out to show he was correct. Plus it's a much grander death and story arc than a lot of people have gotten in the show. The Hound doesn't give a drat about the politics, the games or most people. His entire story is about how much he hated his brother and the path it led him down. Now he's got nothing left but to exorcise the demon.
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lol Dany has never given a poo poo about the poor and downtrodden except as a pretext to kill more people and the fiction was entirely predicated on her being greeted as a liberator
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Red posted:Does someone have every name on Arya’s list? They are all dead.
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What's the main reason Jon Snow rejects Dany? Are we to assume it's because she's his aunt and he thinks it's icky? I blame him blueballing her for the death of thousands.
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iamsosmrt posted:The scene was at least 50% fan service to begin with. The Mountain was clearly not a zombie automation as they went out of their way to show him break his orders and kill Qyburn because of his inner hate for his bro. The fight was fine, I don't believe either of the brothers were ever depicted as spectacular or talented swordsman, they both relied on their brute strength and durability to beat most of their opponents. Ultimately, Sandor's greatest achievement was redeeming Arya and his final fight with his brother was in his mind always going to lead to his own death. The scene played out to show he was correct. Plus it's a much grander death and story arc than a lot of people have gotten in the show. I agree with you, its less about who the mountain was (a husk at this point.) And more about the hate Sandor had. It condemned him, and he embraced it.
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iamsosmrt posted:What's the main reason Jon Snow rejects Dany? Are we to assume it's because she's his aunt and he thinks it's icky? Yes they (Tyrion/Varys) even elaborate on this.
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iamsosmrt posted:What's the main reason Jon Snow rejects Dany? Are we to assume it's because she's his aunt and he thinks it's icky? yeah
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There is definitely a way you could make Evil Daenerys work, but this wasn't it. She has always had the vindictive streak, but it was tempered by empathy for people who had been mistreated (like she had been). To throw out the entire empathetic side of her character because she was angry doesn't track with what we know about her. I thought they were going to have her vindictiveness come back to bite her, i.e. She decides to take one last shot at Cersei even after the city has surrendered, and accidentally ignites the wildfire hidden all over the city. That would have fit with her character (she has no qualms going into murder mode on anyone she sees as having wronged her) but then she would have accidentally hurt all the people she supposedly wanted to save, and had to deal with the fact that her anger had made her into the type of monster she was always trying not to be. But no, instead she just murdered 500,000 innocent people because she saw the Red Keep. "I'm not here to be queen of the ashes" -Daenerys, like 8 episodes ago
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Groovelord Neato posted:i feel like if "normies" are hating on the show it's likely for the "wrong" reasons (they love daenerys and are mad she's a psycho now). the show's been bad for awhile and there's no reason for this to be the one where they go "oh yeah it's bad" for writing/plotting reasons otherwise. I feel like a lot of normies feel they threw away 8 seasons of Jaime character development. Which I mean I agree with. I think a lot of normies also hated whatever... that was that they did with Arya the whole episode. I personally loved Dany going full crazy Targ and have wanted that for a while.
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Raccooon posted:Dany put herself and army in harms way to save humanity from the apocalypse. But she also killed a lot of the army of the dead, so the signs were there.
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Gunthen posted:I agree with you, its less about who the mountain was (a husk at this point.) And more about the hate Sandor had. It condemned him, and he embraced it. Absolutely it's about Sandor. The problem is, why would they give the zombie the order breaking nonsense to uphold his grudge. It was just dumb. Either he's a husk or he's not.
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Also, how lovely is it that Sandor died in a fire. Missandei in chains, Sandor in a fire. Rough endings for both of them.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Yes they (Tyrion/Varys) even elaborate on this. So when he says "I love you" still, does he mean it as a nephew?
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iamsosmrt posted:What's the main reason Jon Snow rejects Dany? Are we to assume it's because she's his aunt and he thinks it's icky? I blame him blueballing her for the death of thousands. I think its partially northern customs, but the way she had been acting since he found out he was the true heir is definitely meant to be a part of it to. She is power hungry and scared, and that means more to Jon then blood.
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Raccooon posted:Up to this point Varys has worked to make her Queen knowing presumably everthing she has done so far. With increasingly obvious concern that she sucks. He straight up goes to her with the "I promised you I'd tell you if I felt that I needed to stab you in the back to save the people because you promised you'd listen" line and she tells him to go screw. He jumps ship because he suddenly has an alternative in Jon.
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George RR Martin, stuffing his mouth with bloomin' onion during a lunch meeting with D&D five years ago: Okay so basically Varys backs Jon over Danerys and gets killed Writer for this season: Okay, so what happens with Varys here? D&D: He backs Jon over Danerys and gets killed Writer: Okay, how does that happen exactly D&D: We just told you Writer: (shrugs) Alright
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Captain Jesus posted:Cleganebowl was bad because nothing was at stake, I gotta defend this: that's the point. The world is collapsing and a would-be hero would rather die for meaningless revenge than live on and live better. I thought it was a nice nod to how spite is toxic and obsessing over payback results in nothing good.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Actually the paler a GoT character is the more likely is it to be a murderous rear end in a top hat. I mean dany never killed a single person
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rapeface posted:Man D&D really hate Jamie don't they Jaime never had any reason to ever even leave KL; his entire journey North and defying Cersei was loving pointless besides "Brienne you are a knight now, I still love my sis though, later"
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"It became necessary to destroy the town in order to save it" - Danerys Targaryen, yesterday
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Alan Smithee posted:I mean dany never killed a single person Neither did Cersei, if we're being technical.
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Fast Luck posted:George RR Martin, stuffing his mouth with bloomin' onion during a lunch meeting with D&D five years ago: Okay so basically Varys backs Jon over Danerys and gets killed haha
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TulliusCicero posted:Jaime never had any reason to ever even leave KL; his entire journey North and defying Cersei was loving pointless besides "Brienne you are a knight now, I still love my sis though, later" He needed to finish up his Move ring or else everyone he shares with will see.
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TulliusCicero posted:Jaime never had any reason to ever even leave KL; his entire journey North and defying Cersei was loving pointless besides "Brienne you are a knight now, I still love my sis though, later" their last child died due to her actions. jaime leaving was the only part of the aftermath to blowing up the sept they did right.
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Fast Luck posted:George RR Martin, stuffing his mouth with bloomin' onion during a lunch meeting with D&D five years ago: Okay so basically Varys backs Jon over Danerys and gets killed That is basically all of season 7 and 8.
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I could nitpick but I'm fine with how Cleganebowl played out. Yeah they coulda done it where they had yet another Trial By Combat and mystery opponent of gregor is THE HOUND but that would've required not bringing him back immediately and trials by combat have kinda been run into the ground a little in the show. It was cool and ended the right way. I thought he looked kind of dumb with his helmet off though and was creepier with it on. A small part of me thought Arya was going to end up running into Gregor down there somewhere.
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Super Deuce posted:Absolutely it's about Sandor. The problem is, why would they give the zombie the order breaking nonsense to uphold his grudge. It was just dumb. Either he's a husk or he's not. Eh this is a pretty common trope, usually for good guys who've been mind controlled or taken over and the only way to overcome the change is via love. To my knowledge, they never explicitly explain the nature of Zombie Mountain's post mortem existence. They did have him rape that shame nun though, which is strong evidence that there's still more to him than we know.
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Super Deuce posted:Absolutely it's about Sandor. The problem is, why would they give the zombie the order breaking nonsense to uphold his grudge. It was just dumb. Either he's a husk or he's not. Gregor is an undead zombie husk. Gregor is more himself then he has ever been, "some young men just have a talent for violence." He was always empty, now he visually reflects it. It's more about the symbolism then the continuity, at least that's how I took it. But that's all of season 8 in a nutshell.
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I said come in! posted:Last nights episode is the new lowest rated episode of the entire series. The other two were last week and the one with the rape scene with Ramsey and Sansa. Season 8 is the first season to drop below a 90% on rotten tomatoes, sitting at a 75% so far. I know absolutely no one personally that liked last nights episode. Outside of this forum I’ve seen nothing but unified hatred for this episode. This is speculating, but that's probably just a mix of a) people being too invested in Dany and disliking her turning cray-cray and b) people having too high expectations of the series as a whole. I mean, I get a lot of the criticisms in this thread, but I was only really pulled out of my viewing experience at a few points, and overall enjoyed it. So, I consider it a success. It could've been done better, though. Dany's turn was clumsily done (though the build-up and sense of foreboding before the battle was okay), Euron swimming ashore literally right at Jaime was so dumb and lazy. Arya lacked agency and felt shoe-horned in (though I understand why, from a film-making perspective). Cersei's Hitler-in-the-bunker routine was hamfisted, yet her dawning realization that Dany's crazy and called her bluff was imo way too subtle. And of course, the scorpions suddenly being completely ineffective against Drogon was lazy and had no real justification. I liked Jaime and Cersei's end. As has been said in this thread, it fits his character nicely that he should die by her side. Cleganebowl was cool, though I've never really been as hyped about it as a lot of people seem to have been. Jaime and Tyrion's talk was good and a fitting farewell between the two. And not to forget, the production value was amazing, and the sacking/burning of KL was pretty brutal and visually satisfying. 3/10
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It sucks to get such a terrible ending to such a great show. I legit loved all of Game of Thrones up until season 8. I have been invested in this world since the books first came out and the very first episode aired on TV. I can understand peoples anger over how horrible season 8 is. This is Dexter, and Breaking Bad levels of awful.
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