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It's like reading CSPAM in novermber 2016 lmao
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Why did Dany burn kings landing and not just the red keep? Seems like she would toast half her own troops. Also wouldn't she want to confirm she actually killed Cersei?
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May 13, 2019 22:36
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It gets better https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1128036913665982464
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May 13, 2019 22:36
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The rest of the trainwreck aside, I love how unceremonious Qyburn's death was. All those years of masterminding his way to the second most powerful position in the realm, and it all gets literally dashed against the rocks by a fraternal hateboner so strong it persisted through undeath.
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May 13, 2019 22:37
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Do these people forget Sansa is up in the north just like... ruling really well? Without murdering her people
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May 13, 2019 22:40
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Do these people forget Sansa is up in the north just like... ruling really well? Without murdering her people Yes.
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May 13, 2019 22:40
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It's funny the show is about as subtle as a sledgehammer with the 'monarchy is bad, wars for personal power are bad' message now and the yas queen people are going We Need A Woman On The Throne if the remaining leaks are right then the Unsullied will go back to liberating slaves in Essos so the good part of Dany's message will be preserved without the fashy Messiah Queen aspect
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May 13, 2019 22:41
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I guess one frustrating thing I can get behind is this is going to be spun like a "well we were subverting your expectations, that's why you're upset" and they'll be able to shrug off that a lot of folks are bothered by the poo poo-rear end writing
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May 13, 2019 22:49
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Bloody Pom posted:The rest of the trainwreck aside, I love how unceremonious Qyburn's death was. All those years of masterminding his way to the second most powerful position in the realm, and it all gets literally dashed against the rocks by a fraternal hateboner so strong it persisted through undeath. Turns out Gregor was never being controlled. It just never came up because he enjoys rape and killing
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May 13, 2019 22:50
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I think the thing that makes Dany's turn so unsatisfying / weird and why it's so bewildering to people is that it's such an abrupt tonal shift. Yes, she has been cruel before. Yes, she's burned people, executed prisoners, and in desperation has taken drastic actions. But everything about those scenes shows it as GOOD. Burning the witch that killed Drogo alive is shown to be miraculous. Walling up her friend in a safe for betraying her is seen as basically justice. Burning the slave masters, and then the khals, crucifying the masters - the music, the way they're shot, the reactions of everyone around her, it's all shown to be necessary if not just flat out good. There's not a lot of uneasy looks, or people questioning her, or seeming uncertain or ambivalent about her actions. Even to the end, when she burns the Tarlys, that's kind of how it goes in Westeros - bend the knee or die. What she's doing isn't so far out of step of what any other ruler would do with captured prisoners who promise to continue to be belligerent and refuse to submit. Then suddenly she's a maniac slaughtering everyone. The pieces were always there for that to make sense - killing, fire, acting rashly when desperate - but the set up just isn't there. I mean, take Ned's death. It flows naturally from what came before. He's shown to be stubborn, honourable, and rigid to a fault. It gets him in increasingly worse situations until he's going to be killed. He finally compromises, but it's too late and he's killed anyways. That's not "satisfying", but it makes some narrative sense and has a real emotional impact because of that. Whereas Danerys is good-ish person doing what it takes to survive, gain power, and reclaim what she's been told her family should have every day of her life. Good, good, good, good, good, then insane maniac. It's just too abrupt and jarring. It's not the story, but rather how it's told, and I think they could have fixed it even within this season. Have her acting irrational, lashing out at people or things for no reason, her advisors getting uneasy at her brutality and bloodthirst, there's lots of little things you could have done to build it up even a little and have it make sense. I don't know why they're so loving rushed but it's really loving things up anyways 
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May 13, 2019 22:57
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all those people have every right to be mad about the heel turn because it was so hamfisted and terribly written and executed on every level I'm mad about it too and I wanted a bad dany ending.
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May 13, 2019 23:00
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Bottom Liner posted:all those people have every right to be mad about the heel turn because it was so hamfisted and terribly written and executed on every level Imagine if there'd been some sort of scene where after the surrender, she went to her (rightfully loving terrified) new subjects and she was like "What up peasants, I bring you peace" and they rejected her because she just burned their queen/city and they just want to not be burned alive theeeeen she does the burn them all thing
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May 13, 2019 23:02
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Zohar posted:The NW leaker replied to someone about this yesterday lol where are you finding that lol
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May 13, 2019 23:03
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dex_sda posted:where are you finding that lol https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeFolkNews/comments/bmfdv7/compilation_of_leakers_who_gave_previous_accurate/enafkpi/ throwaway5873421 is the original leaker
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May 13, 2019 23:05
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terrorist ambulance posted:Yes, she has been cruel before. Yes, she's burned people, executed prisoners, and in desperation has taken drastic actions. My Homer is not a Communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a Communist... but he is not a porn star!
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May 13, 2019 23:08
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terrorist ambulance posted:Burning the slave masters, and then the khals, crucifying the masters Thing is - and I think this is kinda a point that will play better in the novels than in the show where directors completely hosed the tone - is that these were horrible things. That and the fire and blood or whatever She was bonkers from the start but people are desperately looking for a protagonist at any given point in the narrative
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May 13, 2019 23:09
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Thing is - and I think this is kinda a point that will play better in the novels than in the show where directors completely hosed the tone - is that these were horrible things. Yes but they're not really portrayed that way in the show. To the extent that there's any ambivalence or gray about anything she's done depicted in the show, it's about crucifying the masters. Otherwise, it's all sweeping epic music YAS KWEEN poo poo. I don't blame people for feeling that way about Dany, because that's what the text of the show has shown up until now Her shouting to the unsullied to kill every master they find and telling her dragon to burn the dude is (to me) one of the best and most memorable scenes in the show. It's not shown as anything other than awesome and justified
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May 13, 2019 23:15
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Honestly it feels like they're basically rushedly backsolving the plot so set up and subtlety get thrown out for the easiest way to get to the next plot point.
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May 13, 2019 23:19
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Hey here's another question - why did Euron decide to knife fight with Jamie for no reason? Like why didn't he just steal the boat that was waiting there for Jamie and escape
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May 13, 2019 23:21
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Do these people forget Sansa is up in the north just like... ruling really well? Without murdering her people Didn't the writers say something to the effect that her getting brutalized is what made her strong? Great message there, fellas.
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May 13, 2019 23:23
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Hey here's another question - why did Euron decide to knife fight with Jamie for no reason? Why did he suddenly stop being good at shooting dragons out of the sky. that seems like a pretty useful skill to use when a dragon is flying at your boats Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 23:31 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 23:23
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Bloody Pom posted:The rest of the trainwreck aside, I love how unceremonious Qyburn's death was. All those years of masterminding his way to the second most powerful position in the realm, and it all gets literally dashed against the rocks by a fraternal hateboner so strong it persisted through undeath.
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May 13, 2019 23:31
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Next week's episode just leaked 
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May 13, 2019 23:31
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https://twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1128061948283637761
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May 13, 2019 23:34
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It boggles the mind that someone would believe that Grum could ever finish another ASOIF book
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May 13, 2019 23:41
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"Yes, I actually am as lazy as everyone assumed."
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May 13, 2019 23:48
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It's hosed up that all these manipulations by the other political figures and it all comes down to this. The really interesting part of the show done away with because you gotta wrap this poo poo up and have a definitive winner. This also makes one of the most strategic characters look like a loving idiot when he backed Dany, and all this could've been done away with if Robert had her killed originally. Last point here too, if the Lannisters weren't around during Robert's reign it seems like that would've been the kingdom Varys always wanted.
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May 13, 2019 23:51
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 called that poo poo too ruddiger posted:It'll be great if it turns out (Barristan)'s just loving with everyone because he's still pissed the show did him dirty. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 00:41 on May 14, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 23:52
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"what kind of loving moron would believe that I would finish a book?"
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May 13, 2019 23:54
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"Dream is not even begun." -GRRM
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May 13, 2019 23:54
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Something about the combination of the thumbs down clip art and the title "Idiocy on the internet" reminds me that Gurm is in fact an old man.
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May 13, 2019 23:55
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If someone ever tells you I'm good at my job? Spit in their eye for me. I will never finish a book. Not ever.
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May 14, 2019 00:14
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i love how all these assholes suddenly declare the show unwoke and bad now that their god queens true face is shown. lol at woke libs. where were you in 2016 shithead? crying about some stupid poo poo on tv, i am sure. https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1128037466382974976 https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1128063308228120576 Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 00:18 on May 14, 2019 |
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May 14, 2019 00:16
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"Even the best looking ruler will still gently caress you over once needed" is a good message.
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May 14, 2019 00:18
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Zedd posted:"Even the best looking ruler will still gently caress you over once needed" is a good message. hey, my king died in season 5 and i only cry twice a day about it.
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May 14, 2019 00:20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA7UQOYskas
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Bloody Pom posted:The rest of the trainwreck aside, I love how unceremonious Qyburn's death was. All those years of masterminding his way to the second most powerful position in the realm, and it all gets literally dashed against the rocks by a fraternal hateboner so strong it persisted through undeath. Okay this bothered me greatly. Sandor got his face melted, Sandor wanted revenge, Sandor spent his entire life building up to this moment. Gregor didn't. Gregor don't care. Gregor has never cared about anything, ever. Gregor killed any man who caused him to think about anything for even an instant. Anyone who caught his attention, split in loving half by his greatsword, never to be thought of again. I promise you that Gregor has never once looked backwards and said I can't wait to get even with my brother, because he won and forgot it. Sandor can't mean poo poo to Gregor. So when sandor says i'm calling you out, EVEN IF HE WAS ALIVE, Gregor wouldn't have given a poo poo. And we're led to believe that his being undead puts him under some kind of compulsion. He was in agony for weeks as the poison tried to kill him and the doctor hatefully kept him alive. If he had the ability to shake off the compulsion why didn't he kill qyburn years ago. Why would now be the point he would break free of his programming and turn on his masters. Just Sandor calling him out can't be it. There is no emotional weight there. He does not and can not give the slightest of fucks for Sandor. He fights because it's fan service. Also. Also. Why the gently caress did Cersei tell him not to fight. Like. There's a guy with a sword for all you know he's there for you. You have this loving guy here specifically to kill people with swords pointed in your direction. Why not tell him to kill the intruder and then go. Cersei had no reason to not expect the fight to be over quickly. And how the gently caress do you think you're going to just continue walking down these stairs when a guy with a sword is mad at you. You basically want to either start bribing Sandor or let the fight happen. Telling the monster to not fight makes no loving sense what so ever.
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I’m just sad that by denying us the ending where Jon and Dany are king and queen, we're denied of an epilogue where the world was ruled by a blood crazed conqueror and an idiot whose breeding stock means he’s got the chances of being either a hot blooded idiot who puts entirely too much stock on his honor or a passive idiot who puts entirely too much stock on his honor, and a person who later in life has a 50% chance of going bugfuck crazy, raised by one of those passive idiots who put entirely too much stock on his honor. The point would’ve sailed over all the heads
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Bloody Pom posted:The rest of the trainwreck aside, I love how unceremonious Qyburn's death was. All those years of masterminding his way to the second most powerful position in the realm, and it all gets literally dashed against the rocks by a fraternal hateboner so strong it persisted through undeath. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s5KT_hg2Q4 same. i wish the show went back to those kinda quick "oh gently caress/lol" kinda deaths.
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When I think back to the second episode of the series where Ned tells Jon “You are a Stark” what he was really saying is “You’re not loving insane.”
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