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Zuul the Cat posted:Here's a video of someone using it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIEtAlMSndQ And also some stills from that same video:    I think he used 5 colors? The pooling is a little intense on the pants
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From watching videos it seems faster than, for example, a glossy pin wash?
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May 14, 2019 00:23
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evol262 posted:3 steps is definitely a simple, non-garbage option I really can’t imagine why a position of ‘mix up these three paints from three ranges, buy an airbrush and then pin shade’ is the same as ‘open this pot, coat the fucker’. I mean, I’m over it, some people don’t like them, you do you etc. I’m more irked by this pretense that it’s comparable like some Fake News cry. It’s very odd.
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May 14, 2019 00:24
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fashionly snort posted:And also some stills from that same video: Yeah, but i'm really impressed with the color on the pants. I think that pooling could be controlled by just pulling some of it out of the recess while it's wet.
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if he hadn't glopped it on the legs he would have avoided the darker pooling. You can absolutely control that with how you load the brush. Yellow, for instance, will give two very different results depending on how much you put down.
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I think that for quality results the old adage of "two thin coats" is still going to apply - if you want the same coverage/tinting without the pooling, you're better off doing multiple light passes. But if you just want to color it and get poo poo on the table? One-and-done probably looks pretty good from tabletop height.
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You're definitely going to get more controlled results doing that yeah, but that's not the point of the system. I think basically anyone in this thread will be able to get a better result than that picture with one pass. It's just going to be a matter of what you want and what you're willing to compromise for speed. And speed is the key benefit to us, as opposed to just not looking poo poo for a new painter. You can always just put it on like in that picture then remove the excess with your brush, same as you'd drain off a pool of Shade, but without (from what they say) the same risk of tide marks.
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Shockeh posted:I really can’t imagine why a position of ‘mix up these three paints from three ranges, buy an airbrush and then pin shade’ is the same as ‘open this pot, coat the fucker’. I'm not saying that at all, and I've repeatedly said that, while I'm skeptical of how much use I'll get out of them, I'm still looking forward to trying them. My post is/was 100% about a "here's a low effort way to paint Alpha Legion". Will the contrast look better? Maybe. Will it be easier? Yes. But there is already a relatively low effort way to make Alpha Legion look good. That's all I'm saying. Please don't turn people into strawmen
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muggins posted:I do agree with ijyt, I don't really see the huge hype as we've been doing this with washes and inks before. The current effect they're showing is basically a colored dip. But I'm happy to try them out. Getting 95% of the quality of the old method in 66% to 50% of the steps is awesome. It’s not about new effects, it’s about getting quality effects with a much lower time investment. I hope this explanation has enriched your knowledge of this nuanced topic.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Getting 95% of the quality of the old method in 66% to 50% of the steps is awesome. Awesome thanks JIZZ DENOUEMENT I hope they don't really require the special gw primer because that poo poo is way too expensive
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I'm not sure the impact it would have on how the paints work, presumably it just wouldn't flow quite as well. But I doubt you'd seriously harm the finish by undercoating normally, just don'tgo too dark. This stuff absolutely won't work over black. Other than that I'd expect the finished colour to be better over zenithal if anything. They had done a White Scars marine using the dark grey Contrast over their normal white undercoat (recess only, not all over iirc). That said, I believe there's a valid reason GW have come up with two specific undercoats for this with a different finish to normal beyond just having something else to sell. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 02:00 on May 14, 2019 |
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May 14, 2019 01:57
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interesting redtext
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I’m planning to paint some tanks in a very deep blue. Any opinions on what I should use for a wash on blue?
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Holy poo poo someone actually got so diaper devastated over paints that they spent  on someone looking forward to a new line that is entirely different from anything else available on the market.I'm pretty drat pumped to try them out on my mostly unpainted nids that have been sitting in a drawer for 4ish years. That video posted earlier had a GW rep talking about easily blending colors by simply brushing them together with a medium. I need to see what the blendings results look like, but this Contrast system seems like exactly the thing I need to start, and potentially finish, my carapace without spending an insane amount of time on every gaunt.
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BaconCopter posted:Holy poo poo someone actually got so diaper devastated over paints that they spent 
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May 14, 2019 04:39
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BaconCopter posted:Holy poo poo someone actually got so diaper devastated over paints that they spent Yeah that 10 dollars could have bought 1, maybe 2 pots of Citadel Contrast paint, GW's latest innovation that is set to change the game!
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Groetgaffel posted:Contrast has broken so many brains, it's pretty amazing. TheBigAristotle posted:Yeah that 10 dollars could have bought 1, maybe 2 pots of Citadel Contrast paint, GW's latest innovation that is set to change the game! Oh poo poo we've got a witty one here folks. The more appropriate analogy is that $10 could buy a bunch of juice for your kids. Nice try.
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May 14, 2019 05:11
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Hah, shows what you know: I already spent my kids' juice money on hookers and blow.
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May 14, 2019 05:22
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TheBigAristotle posted:Yeah that 10 dollars could have bought 1, maybe 2 pots of Citadel Contrast paint, GW's latest innovation that is set to change the game! Recycle empty paint pots into a replacement spine for Lowtax.
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Ilor posted:Hah, shows what you know: I already spent my kids' juice money on hookers and blow. Probably a better choice than gray plastic.
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May 14, 2019 05:29
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BaconCopter posted:Gosh darn, would you look at that: I thought it was a good one 
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contrast looks really great
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May 14, 2019 05:54
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PinheadSlim posted:So I searched this image because I'm somehow less lazy than you, a feat considering how lazy I am, and I found it's not base + wash. It's actually based and then layered up to runefang, then minimum two layers blue glaze, then a third layer, then a final fourth layer of glaze plus detail work. Sounds like you’re the perfect target audience. 
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May 14, 2019 06:37
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ijyt posted:Sounds like you’re the perfect target audience. Wow you sure showed me
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PinheadSlim posted:Wow you sure showed me I appreciate you double checking that smug dick, my friend.
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May 14, 2019 07:03
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Its a basecoat, and three layers of wash. Its a very easy and quick method to do Alpha Legion. If you really can’t stomach that then he really is the target audience for Contrast paints.
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Alpha legion colours are a pig to paint and I reckon the contrast paints wouldn't do it right unless you were happy with a very basic finish.
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ijyt posted:Its a basecoat, and three layers of wash. Its a very easy and quick method to do Alpha Legion. If you really can’t stomach that then he really is the target audience for Contrast paints. You can't read, because it's based in a metallic other than runefang then it is layered up to it. Then there's the four washes. What you read as four steps is written as at least six, and we're talking about possibly replacing it with two. 2nd graders understand fractions better than you, with better reading comprehension to boot. Please get better at posting.
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PinheadSlim posted:You can't read, because it's based in a metallic other than runefang then it is layered up to it. Then there's the four washes. Two thin coats is generally considered one step because you're using the same colour.
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Please everyone let's enjoy painting minis in any fashion we choose and not get upset over these new paints 
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Fair, but still isn't just based then washed like he said. It's still three steps more than he originally claimed before I dug up the source. You don't have to like contrasts but let's not pretend Alpha is some two step process for good results. PinheadSlim posted:According to ijyt you've been able to do it all along in two steps with a simple wash ijyt posted:I mean literally yes Punkinhead fucked around with this message at 07:44 on May 14, 2019 |
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PinheadSlim posted:You can't read, because it's based in a metallic other than runefang then it is layered up to it. Then there's the four washes. Please do not get angry at paints, it’s alright. I painted the below blue armour three years ago with the metallic GW primer, two coats of guilliman blue, a single coat of waywatcher green. You don’t always have to follow instructions in this hobby. 
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ijyt posted:Please do not get angry at paints, it’s alright. Good mini, but no amount of being a smug dipshit will change what "literally" means.
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PinheadSlim posted:Good mini, but no amount of being a smug dipshit will change what "literally" means. Literally lol.
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Ilor posted:Hah, shows what you know: I already spent my kids' juice money on hookers and blow. But enough about your Infinity models
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PinheadSlim posted:Good mini, but no amount of being a smug dipshit will change what "literally" means. 
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May 14, 2019 08:30
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irregardless of usage you're literally wrong
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Except the example given is a correct use of the informal definition, and it doesn't apply when counting small numbers. "I can eat this in literally two bites" Proceeds to take four bites "You didn't eat that in two bites" "I was emphasizing how fast I could eat it, don't hold me to anything I said earlier I'm still right"
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