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Shifty Pony posted:these stories have to be the first new cars any of these fuckers have ever bought. there's no way that someone could go through a competent new car delivery and actually accept a car with a pile of trash in the footwell and poo poo all over the outside. Haven't there been reports of them just dropping it off at the house and loving off without even notifying the owner until after they left?
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flakeloaf posted:"i tweeted about you, you owe me" i love this idea of twitter customer service, where you can overlook any issues because all you need to do is @ the ceo and they'll respond! unless they don't. also maybe if the company/product didn't suck you wouldn't have to try to shame the head of the company into acting via a public forum, idk.
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infernal machines posted:i love this idea of twitter customer service, where you can overlook any issues because all you need to do is @ the ceo and they'll respond! it worked for marco overcast, but he has a checkmark and 112k followers and a popular podcast. so just get those things and tesla will help you out!
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May 14, 2019 15:51
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Lol he shilled Tesla for years and they gave him an unfinished dirty car full of trash
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so that guy spent three years telling everyone how great the car that he'd paid for but never seen or driven was
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i mean i guess i post "tesla bad lol" without having driven one but i only paid  for the privilege
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May 14, 2019 16:30
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their cars are great but they're incredibly disorganized, and it's muskie's fault 'cause he micromanages all the time, and views skilled management as a threat.
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May 14, 2019 16:33
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infernal machines posted:please define "great"
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infernal machines posted:please define "great" you can take your operational definition from "america is already great"
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infernal machines posted:please define "great" their electronics, drive train, and battery management system are worlds apart at the moment. it's similar to how apple was ahead with their iphone in 2007. give it a few years, and tesla will lose their edge, especially how they're behaving now. 13:08 if this doesnt jump ahead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DucRxWz_58&t=788s
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May 14, 2019 16:47
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also, sometimes, they burn people to death
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Nfcknblvbl posted:their electronics, drive train, and battery management system are worlds apart at the moment. it's similar to how apple was ahead with their iphone in 2007. give it a few years, and tesla will lose their edge, especially how they're behaving now. So what you're saying is that you love the car?
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theflyingorc posted:also, sometimes, they burn people to death This.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:their electronics, drive train, and battery management system are worlds apart at the moment. Isn't that a problem? I'd think they should be together in one coherent car?
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Ok shitposting aside: The drivetrain and poo poo is probably the one thing they've done right, but you have to ignore the fire risk and the fact that cold destroys it. Also remember, supercharging destroys the batteries.
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it's a great car er, well, it's a car that can accelerate really fast!
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infernal machines posted:it's a great car It's a loose definition of a car
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iospace posted:Ok shitposting aside: i was stuck in a blizzard on i-40 in new mexico for 8 hours with my family after christmas, and our car was in fact not destroyed
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Iron Crowned posted:So what you're saying is that you love the car? he nearly froze to death on a highway when he had to choose between range and heat in a blizzard and he's posted videos of autopilot trying to kill him. of course he loves the car
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are they still actually better than say the e-tron or whatever Polar calls their cars? I'm sure they're nicer to drive than a Leaf and I suspect that Jaguar has developed an innovative way to make their electric just as bad as their ICs but there are competent companies in the market now (or just soon?)
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Munkeymon posted:are they still actually better than say the e-tron or whatever Polar calls their cars? I'm sure they're nicer to drive than a Leaf and I suspect that Jaguar has developed an innovative way to make their electric just as bad as their ICs but there are competent companies in the market now (or just soon?) i'd think if anyone could give tesla a run for their money on the "car randomly combusts" front, it'd be jaguar
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infernal machines posted:he nearly froze to death on a highway when he had to choose between range and heat in a blizzard and he's posted videos of autopilot trying to kill him. stockholder syndrome
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iospace posted:Ok shitposting aside: No they absolutely did not. Instead of engineering a good prismatic battery pack which takes years, they spot welded some vape cells together. Instead of going with the costly but electrically and mechanically superior synchronous AC Motor they went with a cheap to make electric reluctance unit. Their drivetrains are worlds apart in being poo poo drivetrains and the moment you ask them to do more than bro-starting at a stop light like a pimple faced teenager the crappy design becomes apparent. Track usage? Overheat literally after a minute Super charging? Will work a few times, literally fries your battery Cold operation? Lmao lose your warranty in the winter, boy. Saying a tesla drivetrain is advanced or great is a statement about ones lack of knowledge about the subject and a testimony of how easily the end consumer is persuaded by a few gimmick features instead of looking at the full picture of his purchase.
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Combat Theory posted:Saying a tesla drivetrain is advanced or great is a statement about ones lack of knowledge about the subject and a testimony of how easily the end consumer is persuaded by a few gimmick features instead of looking at the full picture of his purchase. but, smartymans on the internet said it was good
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Combat Theory posted:No they absolutely did not. 
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Nfcknblvbl posted:their electronics, drive train, and battery management system are worlds apart at the moment. it's similar to how apple was ahead with their iphone in 2007. give it a few years, and tesla will lose their edge, especially how they're behaving now. god bless sandy munro, but for serious, lol out loving loud if you thing fully wireless communication between control systems in a car is a good or practical thing. like, even assuming he was just wrong about the tech stack because he's not a computer man, holy gently caress that's a terrible idea.
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May 14, 2019 17:12
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He trusts the software more than anything. That's all to had to hear
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let's just take something that's notoriously temperamental in even absolutely ideal circumstances and stuff it into a weird shaped metal box, with a bunch of other radios all blaring at once, and also that will be operating from time to time in close proximity to hundreds more of these things, and rely on that for near-zero latency real time control
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also, i mean if you want to talk about getting their costs down via materials efficiency, the number one way to do that would be to stop using 500kg of vape cells, rather than try to cut out some wiring harnesses, but you don't hear much about them doing prismatic battery designs.
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Munkeymon posted:are they still actually better than say the e-tron or whatever Polar calls their cars? I'm sure they're nicer to drive than a Leaf and I suspect that Jaguar has developed an innovative way to make their electric just as bad as their ICs but there are competent companies in the market now (or just soon?) they have more range, faster charging, and more acceleration than the competitors. BUT it is very likely that the range, charging, and acceleration are all the result of ignoring the operating margins that automakers build into their vehicles to ensure that marts on the edge don't fail and which have resulted in cars now lasting well over a hundred thousand miles.
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Vape Car 2000
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necrotic posted:He trusts the software more than anything. That's all to had to hear the guys who are burning out their persistent storage with writes in under the minimum drive lifespan are definitely who i would trust with software. tbf, he was blown away with "the level of integration" on the mcu/ecu, because they had some nvidia asics for image processing. i mean, yeah, you're probably not going to be doing real time NN image classification on a z80, but c'mon.
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Endless Mike posted:also they raised prices today lol Moody's said they need to lower prices significantly in order to stay in business.
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necrotic posted:He trusts the software more than anything. That's all to had to hear yeah i checked out after that lmao
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May 14, 2019 17:44
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Good lord this entire thread. https://twitter.com/Trumpery45/status/994678595837616132
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l m f a o https://twitter.com/Trumpery45/status/1001990317158084608
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gschmidl posted:Good lord this entire thread. hahahhaa my alternator belt exploded yesterday on my AZ-1 a 25 year limited production (4300 in total) and got a new one for 17 bucks. seen panels run for a few hundred.
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