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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Thanks, the x5 look really good for the price, and seem like they have a lot better battery life than others like them I’ve looked at. Lord knows I can’t test things like these out anywhere so having info on how they sound is really helpful

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spleen merchant
Jul 1, 2007
Fun Shoe

MeKeV posted:

Not sure if this is outside the scope of the thread. But what should I be looking at to share a single set of headphones/headset with multiple inputs, concurrently? Ideally 4 inputs for my current setup.

I have headphones/a headset on all day listening to music/podcasts/TV, and I take calls on a landline phone, cell and occasionally pc based voip.
Initially I'd use the mic on the headset. But eventually I'd like to just wear proper headphones and add a desk mic/modmic.

The 4 'source' devices have 3.5mm jacks, besides the landline which is 2.5mm. They all have bluetooth, but bluetooth is typically 2 devices max.
Closest I've found is some logitech headset that is bluetooth (2 devices) plus a usb dongle for a third, but I'm not that bothered about wireless.

I've just started looking at stereo mixers, but it's not something I know anything about. And so far it looks like, if I want to share the mic also I'll end up with something large with a pro scale cost.

Edit: When I say concurrently, I really mean just connected at the same time, I dont need or want to mix sounds. So more of an input(+ mic output) selector than a mixer?

I'm using a 4-1 RCA switch to point multiple sources at my headphone amp.

Maybe you could use a component AV switch (3 RCA plugs per channel)

Split the headset to separate stereo/mic with something like this:

https://www.ebay.com.au/i/111651652...BiABEgLszfD_BwE

And get tricky with some 3.5mm to RCA adapters, using the "video" ports for mic.

(You'd need stereo 3.5 to stereo RCA for the headphones, mono 3.5 to mono RCA for mic)

Join the signals back together at each "source" with additional stereo/mic splitters.

spleen merchant fucked around with this message at 12:01 on May 9, 2019

Harry Privates
Oct 10, 2007
Budget - $150 or less.
Source - Iphone Xr, PC
Isolation Requirements - For use at work (open office space so I need closed), walking from my car to the office, on the airplane.
Preferred Type of Headphone - I like full size headphones but they also need to have some durability. Also my biggest requirement is that they are wireless (but I will plug them in at my desk and use them wired)
Preferred Tonal Balance - Not enough of an expert to say.
Past Headphones - Skullcandy stuff, Sony Bass bluetooth headphones
Preferred Music - I listen to just about everything but past year has been heavy podcasts, Grateful Dead and Nick Cave.

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.

Harry Privates posted:

Budget - $150 or less.
Source - Iphone Xr, PC
Isolation Requirements - For use at work (open office space so I need closed), walking from my car to the office, on the airplane.
Preferred Type of Headphone - I like full size headphones but they also need to have some durability. Also my biggest requirement is that they are wireless (but I will plug them in at my desk and use them wired)
Preferred Tonal Balance - Not enough of an expert to say.
Past Headphones - Skullcandy stuff, Sony Bass bluetooth headphones
Preferred Music - I listen to just about everything but past year has been heavy podcasts, Grateful Dead and Nick Cave.

Friend, you want the Audio-Technica ATH-M50X with the additional bluetooth module.

Alternatively the Noontec Hammo at that pricepoint.

If you want to go a little cheaper, I have a pair of Jabra Move that are quite good, and very lightweight.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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Apparently my awesome new TV isn’t compatible with my old headphones, so I need to find some new ones.

Budget - About $250 or $300, but I can go a bit higher if necessary.
Source - A big fancy LG OLED TV with video game systems hooked up to it, and maybe occasionally my iPad if I want to watch a stream, but mostly the TV and game systems.
Isolation Requirements - These are for home and college apartment use. My house is normally pretty quiet. I don’t think I need much isolation, but maybe I do, I dunno.
Preferred Type of Headphone - I need headphones that are good for TV, movies, and video games. Over-the-ear headphones strongly preferred, and I need something wireless with surround sound. I also need something I can use with an LG C8 TV, which means either something bluetooth, something with optical cable input, or something with LG Sound Sync compatibility.
Preferred Tonal Balance - No loving idea, I guess balanced?
Past Headphones - My current headphones are some Sony ones I got at Best Buy like 6 years ago, but I can’t say exactly what kind they are. I like that they’re over-the-ear, wireless, and have surround sound.
Preferred Music - lol I don’t really listen to music. I guess whatever plays on the TV and movies and games???


EDIT: Almost forgot the bit about optical.

I. M. Gei fucked around with this message at 23:29 on May 10, 2019

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-wh-l600-rf-digital-surround-wireless-headphones-black/6211542.p?skuId=6211542

Are these any good for TV, movies, and gaming? I’m seeing Sony get tossed around a bit in this thread, but I haven’t seen these specific headphones mentioned.

Lowness 72
Jul 19, 2006
BUTTS LOL

Jade Ear Joe
Why aren't your current headphones compatible? I don't understand

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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Lowness 72 posted:

Why aren't your current headphones compatible? I don't understand

My headphones only have a headphone jack, and the C8, from what I can tell, doesn’t have a headphone jack output. It has an optical output, some USB ports, bluetooth, and something that’s labeled “RS-232C (SVC Only)” which I have no idea what that is, but no headphone jack output.

... unless the RS-232C port IS a headphone jack output, in which case I haven’t been able to get it to work with my headphones and google so far hasn’t found any instructions on how to get it to work. Whenever I plug the headphones into it all I hear is a high-pitched screech.


\/\/\/ Ah, okay.

I. M. Gei fucked around with this message at 04:47 on May 11, 2019

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I. M. Gei posted:

Whenever I plug the headphones into it all I hear is a high-pitched screech.

It's not a headphone jack. Don't plug your headphones into there. As the label implies, it's a service port for technicians.

Edit: what's weird is I also have a big fancy LG OLED and that DOES have a headphone jack. What model is it?

KillHour fucked around with this message at 04:48 on May 11, 2019

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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KillHour posted:

Edit: what's weird is I also have a big fancy LG OLED and that DOES have a headphone jack. What model is it?

LG OLED55C8PUA

I have searched the back of that thing and the papers it came with, and if there’s a headphone jack back there I haven’t found it.

I. M. Gei fucked around with this message at 04:55 on May 11, 2019

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I am going to assume you are using the TVs built in apps to watch content? The TV should have an HDMI port with ARC (for sound bars) so you might be able to do something with that.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I would just go with Bluetooth for the headphones.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

KillHour posted:

I would just go with Bluetooth for the headphones.

Yeah gently caress I was just gonna say.

It has BT don’t dick with anything else.

It has an optical out which you could also monkey with but just use Bluetooth.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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Okay but which headphones should I get?

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

You could just get an Amp/DAC with an optical input and use that. Then you won't have to get new headphones. It's what I do with my C7 OLED. Also means if you ever want to switch out headphones or get new ones, be it from them breaking or you just getting tired of them, you won't have to have your choices limited to Blutooth headphones.

It will also be a lot cheaper. Amp/DACs with optical inputs like the Micca Origen G2 go for around $100 versus that $300 pair of headphones you linked. Some like the Fosi Audio are even less.

If you really wanted to go all out you could get get a separate amp and DAC stack, like the JDS Labs Atom and Khadas Tone Board combo that's pretty popular with me and some other goons, about $200 bucks that performs just as well, and in fact even better than audiophile bunk that costs several orders of magnitude more.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby fucked around with this message at 07:06 on May 11, 2019

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

You could just get an Amp/DAC with an optical input and use that.

I have no idea what either of these things are.


EDIT: To be honest, I’m not really in love with the headphones I have right now and would kinda prefer to get a new pair.

I. M. Gei fucked around with this message at 07:37 on May 11, 2019

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I. M. Gei posted:

Okay but which headphones should I get?

Sennheiser HD 4.40 Around Ear Bluetooth Wireless Headphones (HD 4.40 BT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSZSJE9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_bTM1CbTJG50ZP

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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MarcusSA posted:

Sennheiser HD 4.40 Around Ear Bluetooth Wireless Headphones (HD 4.40 BT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSZSJE9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_bTM1CbTJG50ZP

Any particular reason you recommend these over something with 7.1 surround sound? I don’t necessarily NEED to have bluetooth, I can easily and happily do an RF thing hooked up to an optical line.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

I. M. Gei posted:

Any particular reason you recommend these over something with 7.1 surround sound? I don’t necessarily NEED to have bluetooth, I can easily and happily do an RF thing hooked up to an optical line.

“7.1 headphones” are basically always just stereo headphones plus some virtualization software. It tends to be kind of gimmicky.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I've had 3 pairs of virtual 7.1 headphones and I'm convinced it's pure snake oil.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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So something like the Sennheiser RS 175 RF would be a no go, then?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I. M. Gei posted:

So something like the Sennheiser RS 175 RF would be a no go, then?

Yes you are over paying for nothing really.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
It's perfectly possible to hear sound coming from 'all around you' using stereophonic signals, that's how the human auditory system works.

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004
I bought some cheap bluetooth earphones from Amazon to use while I go jogging. Everything is great about them except to change the track, I have to hold the volume up button for around 2 seconds. In my previous wired earphones, I would just double click the single button on the remote to advance the track. Having to fumble around and find the top button (out of three) and hold it for 2 seconds is a little distracting when running.

Is anyone currently using bluetooth earphones that does not have this function and has an easier method of advancing the track that's playing?

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

I. M. Gei posted:

I have no idea what either of these things are.


EDIT: To be honest, I’m not really in love with the headphones I have right now and would kinda prefer to get a new pair.

It's just a little box that decodes audio signals but also has an amplifier in it to make the signal louder, your TV, PC, whatever has these things built into them but they're usually bad quality and also have a bit of noise (buzzing, hissing during otherwise silent scenes) issuing from them because of how close they are to other electronic components with current running through them.

Your TV has a movie giving it audio data in digital form, the DAC in the TV converts that digital signal to an analog signal, the amplifier powers the analog signal, more power, louder, less power, quieter, then it goes into your headphones and you hear the result. That's the short explanation.

Buying an external version usually means you can make your audio louder/quieter with more range and greater degrees while also cleaning the signal up a bit from what your TV's internal audio equipment might be capable of, it also usually means you can make your audio louder without it distorting, or make it quieter without the channels on your headphones becoming unbalanced or inaudible.

One of their biggest benefits however is that they address your issue, there are a ton of ways devices feed audio, USB, optical, RCA, etc. etc. Your TV has an optical output for audio, your phone and PC have USB, your record player has line out, etc. it turns into a pain trying to make everything compatible.
A little amp/DAC box will give you way more options and streamline the entire process.

Even if you do get new headphones, like I said, buying an amp/DAC means you don't have to purely rely on wireless options. It can make shopping for headphones a lot easier, and you don't need to buy some fancy, complicated crap either.

https://www.amazon.com/Fosi-Audio-C...=gateway&sr=8-3

This one is cheap and is completely serviceable, you plug an optical cable from your TV into the DAC, then you plug your headphones in. That's it, super easy. Just think of it as a receiver, but instead of powering speakers it powers headphones.

It's not necessary at all, but it can solve future issues when companies like LG just completely forgo traditional outputs for lovely reasons.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

It's just a little box that decodes audio signals but also has an amplifier in it to make the signal louder, your TV, PC, whatever has these things built into them but they're usually bad quality and also have a bit of noise (buzzing, hissing during otherwise silent scenes) issuing from them because of how close they are to other electronic components with current running through them.

Your TV has a movie giving it audio data in digital form, the DAC in the TV converts that digital signal to an analog signal, the amplifier powers the analog signal, more power, louder, less power, quieter, then it goes into your headphones and you hear the result. That's the short explanation.

Buying an external version usually means you can make your audio louder/quieter with more range and greater degrees while also cleaning the signal up a bit from what your TV's internal audio equipment might be capable of, it also usually means you can make your audio louder without it distorting, or make it quieter without the channels on your headphones becoming unbalanced or inaudible.

One of their biggest benefits however is that they address your issue, there are a ton of ways devices feed audio, USB, optical, RCA, etc. etc. Your TV has an optical output for audio, your phone and PC have USB, your record player has line out, etc. it turns into a pain trying to make everything compatible.
A little amp/DAC box will give you way more options and streamline the entire process.

Even if you do get new headphones, like I said, buying an amp/DAC means you don't have to purely rely on wireless options. It can make shopping for headphones a lot easier, and you don't need to buy some fancy, complicated crap either.

https://www.amazon.com/Fosi-Audio-C...=gateway&sr=8-3

This one is cheap and is completely serviceable, you plug an optical cable from your TV into the DAC, then you plug your headphones in. That's it, super easy. Just think of it as a receiver, but instead of powering speakers it powers headphones.

It's not necessary at all, but it can solve future issues when companies like LG just completely forgo traditional outputs for lovely reasons.

Ah, now I get it...... I kinda want one of these things now. Is that Micca thing you recommended in your last post a good one?

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


The disadvantage with that is now you have to either have a cable going from your TV to where you sit, or you have to go TV -> DAC -> Wireless transmitter -> wireless headphones. Which is especially dumb because the wireless transmitter turns it right back into a digital signal making the DAC redundant (you're literally going digital -> analog -> digital). Optical out from your TV is also not going to support using your TV remote to change the volume. You'd have to get up and turn the knob unless your headphones have built in volume attenuation.

I just can't think of a good reason to buy a DAC for a TV.

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran
Budget - $60 or less.

Source - Iphone 6s

Isolation Requirements - None required, but if it's present that's fine. Use case is a quiet home office, doing housework or errands, etc.

Preferred Type of Headphone - Earbuds or IEMs, preferrably wired, without a mic. Headphones get uncomfortable worn long enough and look ridiculous worn in public; wireless solutions simply don't have the battery life I'd need, and charging them is a hassle. I default to earbuds as I've never worn IEMs and I'm concerned that they won't fit well, but I'm willing to consider them.

Preferred Tonal Balance - Whatever is preferred for spoken-word audio.

Past Headphones - Apple earbuds for this source; these are my minimum quality / comfort level.

Preferred Music - Almost exclusively audiobooks and podcasts.

Are there any wired earbuds under $60 that are worth owning? My last pair of wired Apple earbuds has finally died, and I'm looking to replace them with something similar.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
VE Monk Plus. $10 on Amazon and they sound pretty good.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
Quick trip report on Audeze Mobius from a non-audiophile.

Preferred Tonal Balance - A bit bass-heavy. In VLC, I tend to setup an equalizer with peaks at 310Hz and 12 Khz, and downplay 1KHz.

Preferred Music - Metal, prog rock, every now and then classical.

Past Headphones -
  • Astro A40 (the old, non-TR version)
  • Bose QC30 (noise-cancelling, on-ear)
  • Bose QC20 (noise-cancelling IEMs)
  • Some crap from Steelseries that always had sound die in one earcup
  • V-Moda Forza Metallo (IEMs)
  • Some Sennheiser IEMs that cost ~$40 USD 8 years ago
In terms of the Mobius, the detail is by far the best I've heard. I'm not familiar with all of the audiophile terms, but basically I can hear a lot of the "background" instruments with more clarity than on other headphones. The tonal balance seems very even to me. I would prefer a bit more in the mid-bass, but everything sounds great, and equalizers are a thing. Sound isolation is next to nil; they're closed back, but leak as much sound--in and out--as my old Astro A40's. Useless on a plane, train, or anyplace with background noise. The mic quality isn't great; even at low gain it picks up breathing unless you fidgit--a lot--with the position of the mic. It works okay, but my biggest complaint is that I can't just put them on and start chatting without futzing with the mic position.

The 3d sound stuff is a neat gimmick. I don't love it when listening to music, mostly because my head is generally turning between two monitors and the soundstage moving that much becomes distracting. I absolutely love it when watching a movie or TV, though. The very slight sound movements caused by natural head tilting towards a sound really does have a nice effect.

Overall verdict? I wish I'd spent my $400 on something else. The sound quality is better at that price point than anything else I was looking at, but the mic quality was a real let-down. I think I under-estimated how much value I actually placed in a good mic (hello Astro A40). That said, if you want a set of bluetooth headphones with really, really good sound: these are nice.

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos

Ynglaur posted:

Overall verdict? I wish I'd spent my $400 on something else. The sound quality is better at that price point than anything else I was looking at, but the mic quality was a real let-down. I think I under-estimated how much value I actually placed in a good mic (hello Astro A40). That said, if you want a set of bluetooth headphones with really, really good sound: these are nice.

The boom mic is ridiculously directional, it can sound real good when positioned ideally but it attenuates rapidly whenever it shifts; you should mail Audeze about this, I know they're aware of this issue and might have different replacement mics available.

I also recommend installing the Audeze HQ app and toggling through the EQ profiles, I really preffered the 'Flat' setting but there are a few that are more bass heavy.

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.

Dinosaur Gum
Budget - $200 or less.
Source - pc with bluetooth, phone (with bluetooth)
Isolation Requirements - For use at work, travel, etc. So yeah isolated
Preferred Type of Headphone - Full size. I want my normal sized ears to fit inside without smooshing my ears. I have a gigantic noggin.
Preferred Tonal Balance - ??? IDK. Don't know
Past Headphones - nothing I can really remember.
Preferred Music - podcasts, video meetings with colleagues

I have a new job and there are LOTS of remote meetings over skype, and regular air travel. I want headphones to listen to meetings, presentations, be able to talk in meetings, and finally I suppose, to play video games with. I have a large head but it's fine with most pairs of headphones that are adjustable. I have some in-ear earbuds but they're uncomfortable. Bluetooth is preferred.

redreader fucked around with this message at 22:29 on May 13, 2019

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Has anyone tried bone conductive headphones? I'd like to get some to use for listening to podcasts while bike riding. Are they any good? I see the name Aftershokz popping up a lot, but they're quite expensive - are they worth the money?

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

Hyperlynx posted:

Has anyone tried bone conductive headphones? I'd like to get some to use for listening to podcasts while bike riding. Are they any good? I see the name Aftershokz popping up a lot, but they're quite expensive - are they worth the money?

My dad swears by them. I tried his "Aftershokz Titaniums" for like a minute and they were fine for podcasts in a moderately noisy place. Not much bass, not super hi-fi, but I can see the niche appeal.

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

eddiewalker posted:

My dad swears by them. I tried his "Aftershokz Titaniums" for like a minute and they were fine for podcasts in a moderately noisy place. Not much bass, not super hi-fi, but I can see the niche appeal.

There's a huge range available, at different prices. Are they worth the price compared to the cheaper ones, I wonder?...

How long has he had them for? If they last for ages then that's something for me to consider too.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

Hyperlynx posted:

There's a huge range available, at different prices. Are they worth the price compared to the cheaper ones, I wonder?...

How long has he had them for? If they last for ages then that's something for me to consider too.

I only asked to try them because I keep seeing them pop up on sale lately. Maybe you can get a deal, or maybe something new is coming.

Can’t judge their build quality from my dad. He sleeps in, and destroys expensive headphones constantly. I think he’s had these for a while, though.

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

grack posted:

VE Monk Plus. $10 on Amazon and they sound pretty good.

These look perfect - ordered, thank you!

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

eddiewalker posted:

I only asked to try them because I keep seeing them pop up on sale lately. Maybe you can get a deal, or maybe something new is coming.

Can’t judge their build quality from my dad. He sleeps in, and destroys expensive headphones constantly. I think he’s had these for a while, though.
Great! Thanks for the info!

E: I decided I can bear to part with $150aud for a pair, since they're apparently dad-sleep-in-proof

Hyperlynx fucked around with this message at 06:52 on May 14, 2019

5-HT
Oct 17, 2012

redreader posted:

Budget - $200 or less.
Source - pc with bluetooth, phone (with bluetooth)
Isolation Requirements - For use at work, travel, etc. So yeah isolated
Preferred Type of Headphone - Full size. I want my normal sized ears to fit inside without smooshing my ears. I have a gigantic noggin.
Preferred Tonal Balance - ??? IDK. Don't know
Past Headphones - nothing I can really remember.
Preferred Music - podcasts, video meetings with colleagues

I have a new job and there are LOTS of remote meetings over skype, and regular air travel. I want headphones to listen to meetings, presentations, be able to talk in meetings, and finally I suppose, to play video games with. I have a large head but it's fine with most pairs of headphones that are adjustable. I have some in-ear earbuds but they're uncomfortable. Bluetooth is preferred.

PXC550 is your best bet. sennheiser literally sells it as a business headset under a different name here:

https://en-us.sennheiser.com/wireless-headset-office-phone-mb-660-uc-ms

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runchild
May 26, 2010

420 smoke 🎨artisanal🍑 melange erryday

I tried the Aftershokz but ended up returning them after a bit. I’m not an audio snob but at best it still sounded like earbuds do when they aren’t in your ears, but are turned up loud enough that you can still hear them. That’s not what was happening - they definitely worked they way they said, which was really cool - but it still sounded like that.

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