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It's disgraceful how many people use the default loadouts and/or throw on the default armor bits and don't bother picking colors. 
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Diogines posted:Random sword chat: A Zepathan doesn't see the appeal of swords 
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May 14, 2019 23:34
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frontlines just has kinda bad map design in general, no one really wants to contest the points as they're very small areas particularly for full servers of 64. It really needs more large scale objectives or more generic modes, like capture the flag or Battlefield's conquest as much as I dislike it - or other modes from it really. But stuff like rush up to this 1% of the map to hold it then escort a tiny rear end cart in full view of the enemy spawn really does not work or produce a meaningful experience. also hot take; stabs are okay. Some weapons are annoying, the ones you can drag your stab in and still knick someone with the hurt box primarily, but otherwise it gives you more speed and occasionally more damage, depending, for having to actually fairly precisely aim your attack which can certainly be an issue over swinging. If you're fighting a stab happy dude and you can't do the relatively easy chambers just side step back and forth more. If they're going for your head (and they are) they're going to start whiffing a bunch.
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May 14, 2019 23:35
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Most stabs have a startup time on par with the weapon's slashes or, sometimes, even slower than them. But if you want a slash to hit as soon as possible you have to turn into it to "accel" it so that the starting position of the sword is already touching the enemy, whereas stabs do that automatically as long as you're pointing it in the right direction. Looking through the thing here, the only weapon I can see with a stab significantly faster than its slash is the mace.
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May 14, 2019 23:44
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When crunching numbers you also have to remember that the time until weapon connects is as, or even more, important than the startup times. With longer weapons like spears you can connect and do damage near instantly after the stab windup as opposed to a slashing weapon which not only has a windup but also can have pretty significant travel times even with an accel.
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May 14, 2019 23:52
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AFAIK you can do an accel so that there is literally 0 travel time. The time it takes your guy to get the sword moving but before it can properly do damage is taken into account with the startup time.
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May 14, 2019 23:57
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:AFAIK you can do an accel so that there is literally 0 travel time. You could, but considering stabs just kind of do that natively it's clear which ones end up feeling faster in practice.
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May 15, 2019 00:01
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The cheapest thing I do is the constant feint while moving that seems to give me tribes skiing speed
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May 15, 2019 00:03
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:AFAIK you can do an accel so that there is literally 0 travel time. This assumes the other player isn't moving or moves directly into the attack while also making sure the weapon is placed perfectly on top of the person when it starts moving which for some weapons - mainly larger ones - can mean it being off the screen in first person and leaving yourself wide open to stabs if it's mistimed. It also looks stupid as gently caress and is why I hope they add speed modifiers eventually but whatever.
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May 15, 2019 00:05
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:The messer only does 50 damage to level 2 armor. If you see numbers that big against level 3 guys you're probably accidentally getting headshots. I love me some theory crafting too but I feel like in non duel modes a lot of weapons open up as viable. People often do not have full hp when you are engaging them, which can make some of the weapons that don’t dominate at the 2/3 break points very effective. lovin’ that messer
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May 15, 2019 00:18
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Just had a frontline match where I would swear half the enemy team was using either short spear/rapier + shield or long spear. Guess that's how the frontline meta seems to be moving toward.
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May 15, 2019 00:24
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Spear users are just cowards who are afraid of using an actually versatile weapon, the halberd.  Pole axe is an acceptable substitute if you really want a backup weapon.
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May 15, 2019 00:26
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Poleaxe in this game is a shadow of its true self. Only as long as the longsword!
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May 15, 2019 00:39
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Still clean house with a 1/1/1 executioner sword bloodthirst friendly, half the time I’m the top killer other times my timing is fubar’d and I get wrecked and break even on k/d. Even against spears, pole arms and other long poo poo, still can wreck it. Gotta move quick though. One thing about stabs is if you’re quick you can circle them and they miss, while your wide rear end swing won’t. Never going to tank damage/be the middle of the line as good as other builds. Anyways stabby types can be a pain but I can play against them. 
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May 15, 2019 00:43
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Poleaxe in this game is a shadow of its true self. Only as long as the longsword! 
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May 15, 2019 00:53
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Bloody Pom posted:Spear users are just cowards who are afraid of using an actually versatile weapon, the halberd. We will show them the error of their ways, ser halberdier.
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May 15, 2019 00:54
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I will never pay attention to numbers because I am a dirt farmer trapped in an endless cycle of death and rebirth.
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May 15, 2019 00:59
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The estoc is incredible against level 3 armor because the reach and good morph means its easier to land consistent stab headshots
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May 15, 2019 01:12
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The arming sword is the secret sauce to chumping folks with bigass swords That thing comes out so quick and the damage is still respectable that once the ball gets rolling it's hard to stop before people panic
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May 15, 2019 01:13
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I no longer like this game that much. After playing it for a while now every server is either thrust spammers or drag spammers. It's not even fun beating them when you know how to beat them because they just come back spamming more and more. It's like fighting bots. Every now and then you run into someone who can feint well but it seems like such a rarity. It wouldn't be so bad if half these players weren't so successful. Like I'll finally get the thrust spammer alone, counter all his thrusts, kill him, look at the scoreboard and he's like 30/5. The game just rewards monotonous play too much so everyone does it.
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May 15, 2019 02:46
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Try playing on duel servers, it's quite a bit different from Frontline.
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May 15, 2019 03:56
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I'm enjoying a bastard sword, arming sword, dodge guy every time I disengage with dodge I throw my arming sword at someone's head
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May 15, 2019 04:22
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McSpanky posted:A Zepathan doesn't see the appeal of swords RPATDO_LAMD posted:The messer only does 50 damage to level 2 armor. If you see numbers that big against level 3 guys you're probably accidentally getting headshots.
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May 15, 2019 04:38
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Doltos posted:I no longer like this game that much. After playing it for a while now every server is either thrust spammers or drag spammers. It's not even fun beating them when you know how to beat them because they just come back spamming more and more. It's like fighting bots. Every now and then you run into someone who can feint well but it seems like such a rarity. This is unfortunately quite true and it doesn't bode well for the lifespan of the game imo. Seems like there are maybe 2 playstyles that make up a majority of the population: 1. wide swing spammers, mostly Zweihander / Executioner but some mauls too looking for one shot kills 2. spear / rapier + shield stab spammers I would say at least 66% of the people on frontline are one of these two categories because it's easy to get lots of kills just spamming. If they want to fix this they should remove the Friendly trait and make missed swings take up significantly more stamina.
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May 15, 2019 04:46
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Had a Frontline game where neither team had a bunch of spear + shield spammers and it was extremely fun
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May 15, 2019 04:47
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I wouldn't drop the friendly trait but I'd definitely punish missed/blocked attacks more. Longer swing cooldowns or more stamina loss. The game also needs more modes and maps badly. The Battle Royale/Horde modes are fun a couple times but get old quick and frontline is just a meat grinder most of the time. I'm surprised this game has no castle siege or wacky modes.
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May 15, 2019 05:21
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Doltos posted:I'm surprised this game has no castle siege or wacky modes. Seconding this. Give me full-on Monty Python absurdity like cow catapults and poo poo. Chivalry kinda had this with the fantasy-esque volcano fortress.
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May 15, 2019 05:25
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Doltos posted:I wouldn't drop the friendly trait but I'd definitely punish missed/blocked attacks more. Longer swing cooldowns or more stamina loss. The game also needs more modes and maps badly. The Battle Royale/Horde modes are fun a couple times but get old quick and frontline is just a meat grinder most of the time. well you see it's a realistic game
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May 15, 2019 05:28
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My best weapon in duels are my fists, beat a longsword user with just my hands with a combination of making him miss a stab then hugging him to death, then he ragequit.  Also lute duels where we agree to let the other guy pick up his lute since parrying with a lute is like 35 stamina or something. Edit: got my Sparta achievement in a duel by knocking a dude down on the pit bridge and kicking him off of it the most good fight I've had 
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May 15, 2019 07:41
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Diogines posted:Of some swords! Realtalk, even with longsword and up I often get more utility out of stabs than swings because people keep expecting those big horizontal swings and using their preprogrammed counters, even exec sword tickle-pokes can work mind games.
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May 15, 2019 07:42
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Here is an extremely pro click: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx_tr8Gt-Zg
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May 15, 2019 09:31
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Songbearer posted:Is the whole purpose of the game to be deceived by your weapons range due to how first person melee combat works in games yeah thats what it is
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May 15, 2019 10:28
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Glenn Quebec posted:Lol reading about people's complaints that directly correlates to what killed them last always makes me laugh ayy man I'm two for two on pointing out bullshit. Motherfucker fucked around with this message at 10:47 on May 15, 2019 |
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May 15, 2019 10:45
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Stretch Marx posted:I don't put on fancy/colourful clothes for myself. I do it so people remember me. 
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May 15, 2019 10:50
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And He saw there was a patch, and He went to look at the changelog, and lo, it was good:quote:Patch #06 Changelog let that sink in. Fixed bots being given too many turds up-front. Horde bots turds now have AOE damage. drat if this isn't the best changelog. UNLOAD THE VOLLEY OF TURDS
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May 15, 2019 13:58
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May 15, 2019 14:12
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Big fan of those engineer buffs.
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May 15, 2019 14:14
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huge fan of that smoke buff poo poo.
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May 15, 2019 14:14
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That explains why the servers kept making GBS threads themselves a few minutes ago.
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I threw a lute at a man riding a horse, it hit the horse and it died. Game of the year? (I wish you could throw lute)
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