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I feel like I benefited by listening to the podcast and then re-watching the first episode. It lets the technical details and the timeline kind of fade into the background and you get to focus more on the interpersonal drama.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:I feel really bad for the dogges during the evacuation You’re gonna be in for a bad time...
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May 15, 2019 04:05
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May 15, 2019 04:08
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Despera posted:What so they dont develop superpowers? Well they might. Being impervious to small arms fire isn’t one of those superpowers, though.
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Despera posted:What so they dont develop superpowers? Their super power is to slip out of their skin, but they can only do it once
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May 15, 2019 04:20
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MononcQc posted:it's about to get worse for the dogs The dogs are fine, see! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDz599SBRNA
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May 15, 2019 04:21
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Imagine dying because you petted a puppy...
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May 15, 2019 04:55
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just some atomic lava exploding a fire truck killing every living creature in the Ukraine 
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May 15, 2019 04:56
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The pet thing has been foreshadowed enough it's definitely going to be shown. Prepare yourselves because the hard thing is it's not like the pets will be total ferals who'd be happy to eat you; they'll be good boys and girls running up to get love and petting
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May 15, 2019 05:00
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May 15, 2019 05:07
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Anne Whateley posted:The pet thing has been foreshadowed enough it's definitely going to be shown. Yes, pretty sure we are going to follow that poor,  -faced soldier around as he shoots every dog and cat in the city...I feel guilty that this is what gives me the most dread w/r/t this series.
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May 15, 2019 05:35
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One grimly satisfying scene in episode 2 is when Valery Legasov (Harris) and Boris Shcherbina (Skarsgard) arrive on the scene and the two men whose names escape me at this moment but were the ones grilling the one scientist in Episode 1 (I think they're Fomin and Bryukhanov according to IMDB). Anyways when they arrive and kind of give Legasov poo poo and then Skarsgard uses the little bit of knowledge he had learned on the helo ride in...and then of course after the radiation test is run and then says "please escort comrades Bryukhanov and Fomin to the local party headquarters. Thank you for your service, you're excused." Really loving the series so far.
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May 15, 2019 06:53
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soggybagel posted:One grimly satisfying scene in episode 2 is when Valery Legasov (Harris) and Boris Shcherbina (Skarsgard) arrive on the scene and the two men whose names escape me at this moment but were the ones grilling the one scientist in Episode 1 (I think they're Fomin and Bryukhanov according to IMDB). Anyways when they arrive and kind of give Legasov poo poo and then Skarsgard uses the little bit of knowledge he had learned on the helo ride in...and then of course after the radiation test is run and then says "please escort comrades Bryukhanov and Fomin to the local party headquarters. Thank you for your service, you're excused." Fomin and Bryukhanov need their own spinoff comedy series
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May 15, 2019 06:58
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I think Skarsgårds character is very interesting. He’s clearly a bit of a bully and somewhat like the stereotypical soviet “boss”, but there’s a genuine sense of humanity in him as well. When he asks “is there any other way?” after the helicopter crash, he reveals a concern for human life that western portrayal of soviet power structures tend to ignore.
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Despera posted:Fomin and Bryukhanov need their own spinoff comedy series Once middle ranking party officials, they now live in Siberia in a small apartment both running a small restaurant. They are Fomin and Bryukhanov! E: Yeah the scene where Skarsgårds uses a little bit of the knowledge he got from Harris and Harris kind of just looks at him not in awe or gratitude but just a knowing look was good. Such good actors doing a lot with just glances. soggybagel fucked around with this message at 07:02 on May 15, 2019 |
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"Hmm, stress tests have revealed that the O-Rings become rigid and brittle in low temperature. What say you, special director Fomin?" "Eh, is not too good, not too bad. Proceed with the launch. *vomits*"
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Mantis42 posted:"Hmm, stress tests have revealed that the O-Rings become rigid and brittle in low temperature. What say you, special director Fomin?" *explodes* “Obviously a major malfunction”.
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BigglesSWE posted:*explodes* NASA quietly tried to point out that the crew survived the explosion only to realize that was more horrifying and stopped doing that. Bureaucracies gotta bureaucrat. soggybagel posted:One grimly satisfying scene in episode 2 is when Valery Legasov (Harris) and Boris Shcherbina (Skarsgard) arrive on the scene and the two men whose names escape me at this moment but were the ones grilling the one scientist in Episode 1 (I think they're Fomin and Bryukhanov according to IMDB). Anyways when they arrive and kind of give Legasov poo poo and then Skarsgard uses the little bit of knowledge he had learned on the helo ride in...and then of course after the radiation test is run and then says "please escort comrades Bryukhanov and Fomin to the local party headquarters. Thank you for your service, you're excused." This was very my jam. The whole thing is so well acted. I love the grim expression on the soldier as Legasov explains how this fire will exterminate all life in the USSR and how he is just staring bullets at Fomin and Bryukhanov...
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May 15, 2019 07:22
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Eh if the (soviet) Challenger exploded over Kazakhstan the soviets would just deny everything.
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May 15, 2019 07:31
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Despera posted:Eh if the (soviet) Challenger exploded over Kazakhstan the soviets would just deny everything. Apparently most schoolchildren in America was watching the Challenger explode live, so that would’ve been hard for Raegan to brush off. I’m sure Trump would try though.
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BigglesSWE posted:Apparently most schoolchildren in America was watching the Challenger explode live, so that would’ve been hard for Raegan to brush off. When asked Yuri Gargarin went to a farm upstate.
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May 15, 2019 07:37
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:NASA quietly tried to point out that the crew survived the explosion only to realize that was more horrifying and stopped doing that. Bureaucracies gotta bureaucrat. I read the wiki for this a few weeks ago and it said the capsule hit the water at around ~200 mph and everyone died on impact. The day before I had read about the Ethiopian Air crash, and that plane hit the ground at over 700 miles per hour. I can’t even fathom how terrifying that is.
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May 15, 2019 07:53
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Imagine dying ~In space~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_11
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BigglesSWE posted:I think Skarsgårds character is very interesting. He’s clearly a bit of a bully and somewhat like the stereotypical soviet “boss”, but there’s a genuine sense of humanity in him as well. When he asks “is there any other way?” after the helicopter crash, he reveals a concern for human life that western portrayal of soviet power structures tend to ignore. They talk about this in the podcast: the seemingly cold decisions to send liquidators to their death were made based on estimations of how many lives would be lost doing different things. They couldn't avoid deaths but they tried to minimize them as much as they could. It's a little like emergency triage after a disaster.
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I also like how he stooges to his boss but when people try to stooge him he shits on them because you can't con a conman as they say.
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May 15, 2019 08:35
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it'd be cool to get a fukushima sequel to this, even if it wasnt as immediately horrifying. otoh maybe a bunch of shows about nuclear disasters would probably be bad to trying to get people to think nuclear energy is mostly safe lol
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May 15, 2019 08:43
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re: Skarsgård's character Also when Harris's character tells him they're both going to die within 5 years he accepts it without complaint after a brief existential crisis. In the initial meeting I expected him to be your typical incompetent rear end-covering bureaucrat but he's growing on me fast.
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May 15, 2019 08:45
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BigglesSWE posted:*explodes* "I antipicated this."
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soggybagel posted:Once middle ranking party officials, they now live in Siberia in a small apartment both running a small restaurant. They are Fomin and Bryukhanov! "The ecoli levels are 99 per 100 ml!" "Eh, not good not terrible "
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May 15, 2019 09:56
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Alhazred posted:"The ecoli levels are 99 per 100 ml!" “I’m not taking out the trash!” “Of course you are.”
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Minrad posted:If you want a slightly more visual idea of what went wrong, I found a cool simulation: http://www.articlesbyaphysicist.com/ch2.html Christ, that's terrifying. I played around with this a little bit, and everything goes from fine to NUCLEAR MELTDOWN in very little time. And to make matters worse, once the chain reaction starts it seems to be impossible to stop, so assuming this thing is even remotely accurate it seems once the course was set for the Chernobyl disaster, there was nothing the workers could have done to prevent it.
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algebra testes posted:The speech about "you'll do it because it has to be done and (we) have always been about sacrifice" was amazing. It really was. Super chilling scene. Imagine being a guy going to work after what you think is just a fairly bad accident, for a briefing, and then being told that three of you will have to commit very, very, VERY painful suicide that loving day because if someone doesn't, 50 million people will die. It's one of those things that just literally boggles the mind, and I can't believe the loving balls on those guys who volunteered to do it. Also, it took a while to hit me but the temporary evacuation we saw in the show was of course the evacuation: none of those people are ever coming back to live in Pripyat again, and the show did it in such a low-key and businesslike fashion. No swelling orchestral score, no slow-mo shots of crying mothers running with babies or any of the normal TV-poo poo. Instead it felt almost like ... well, like much of the amazing photography on this show, it felt like being a bystander there watching it happen, and that's what made it all the more terrifying. But I did enjoy the crazy old turbocommunist from the last episode being loaded onto the bus. Yeah, motherfucker. How are you liking your blockade now? E: kill me now posted:In an ideal world it would be Russian/Ukrainian actors speaking English with their native accents. What? No it wouldn't. We're not supposed to be listening to Russian/Ukrainian actors speaking English with Russian/Ukrainian accents. We're supposed to be listening to Russians/Ukrainians speaking Russian/Ukrainian, and English regional accents make perfect sense in representing that because in the show's magic circle we are listening to Russian/Ukrainian and understanding it. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 11:25 on May 15, 2019 |
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While the evacuation was an impressively run thing, they did not think to wash the buses afterwards so the next day they went back into service in Kiev and spread fallout all over the city.
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May 15, 2019 11:12
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Anne Whateley posted:The pet thing has been foreshadowed enough it's definitely going to be shown. A review from someone who'd seen the whole series said one episode shows how the dogs are Despera posted:Fomin and Bryukhanov need their own spinoff comedy series 
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The trailers show the kid from Dunkirk walking around with a rifle shooting something, presumably mutants because no good dogs ever get shot on television ffs. I really hope they found Jared Harris’ body soon, I don’t want that cat to starve. BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 12:05 on May 15, 2019 |
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May 15, 2019 11:55
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BigglesSWE posted:I really hope they found Jared Harris’ body soon, I don’t want that cat to starve. It looked like he put multiple bowls out for the cat just in case it took awhile for him to be found  CeeJee posted:While the evacuation was an impressively run thing, they did not think to wash the buses afterwards so the next day they went back into service in Kiev and spread fallout all over the city. Oh God 
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May 15, 2019 12:17
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I think Fomin is actually a tour guide in the exclusion zone now.
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BigglesSWE posted:The trailers show the kid from Dunkirk walking around with a rifle shooting something, presumably mutants because no good dogs ever get shot on television ffs. He left multiple bowls of cat food and was found within hours. It's the one pet on this show who will have a (mostly?) happy ending...
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May 15, 2019 13:56
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I really liked Shcherbina's 'don't try to bullshit me about concrete'.
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Der Shovel posted:Christ, that's terrifying. I played around with this a little bit, and everything goes from fine to NUCLEAR MELTDOWN in very little time. And to make matters worse, once the chain reaction starts it seems to be impossible to stop, so assuming this thing is even remotely accurate it seems once the course was set for the Chernobyl disaster, there was nothing the workers could have done to prevent it. Power excursions for nuclear reactions are somewhat hard to wrap your head around just because it happens at scales, both in size and in time, that our brains are just not wired to think about. Chain reactions are measured on the nanosecond scale. Just as a (horrifying) example, the entirety of the nuclear chain reaction for the Fat Man test takes place is about half a microsecond.
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