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Virtue signaling is a real concept in academia which has been abused to mean anyone who cares about any social issues whatsoever and has the audacity to not be silent about it. Woke comes from black culture and Id say thats definitely been co opted and ruined.
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May 14, 2019 09:39
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RagnarokAngel posted:Virtue signaling is a real concept in academia which has been abused to mean anyone who cares about any social issues whatsoever and has the audacity to not be silent about it. Virtue signalling is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to terms acquired by brainless CHUDs
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May 14, 2019 09:40
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I mean, if you want to bring up examples of fascists ruining non-fascist things by adopting them, there used to be this perfectly good symbol of divinity and good fortune that was almost ubiquitous among the iconography of many East Asian religions...
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May 14, 2019 11:01
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super sweet best pal posted:Virtue signalling and woke still effective when used as insults for rich neolib shitheads who pretend to care about marginalized groups when they're actually abusing the hell out of them. Yeah, but to prove you're not an rear end in a top hat, you need to say "performative wokeness" instead of "virtue signaling".
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May 14, 2019 12:47
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a computing pun posted:I mean, if you want to bring up examples of fascists ruining non-fascist things by adopting them, there used to be this perfectly good symbol of divinity and good fortune that was almost ubiquitous among the iconography of many East Asian religions...
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May 14, 2019 17:13
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Mansplaining also got ruined, it meant a very specific thing and got turned into "a man I don't like is talking"
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May 14, 2019 17:46
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I feel that abandoning any word whenever a dickweed takes it out of context is not a sustainable strategy for combating fascism. FAKE EDIT: That's not to say there isn't a point when it's better to abandon something that was once upon a time innocuous, but this is the first I'm learning that Mansplaining is now a ruined term.
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May 14, 2019 19:29
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Yeah, I'm all for standing ground. But at the same time, if you don't change your language when it becomes clear that a term is really hateful you become the guy saying "f_____ just means a bundle of sticks" or "n________ just means stingy!"
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May 14, 2019 19:35
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a vast majority of the times I see "mainsplaining" used is someone quoting tweets of some rando on the internet telling a lady scientist about her field of study.
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May 14, 2019 19:36
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Woke language has already been co-opted. We got to hear about how striking against Uber and Lyft was an expression of privilege. It's just part of how politics operates. Lee Atwater was a high-level Republican strategist and said this in an interview in 1981, please forgive the slurs: quote:You start out in 1954 by saying, “friend of the family, friend of the family, friend of the family.” By 1968 you can’t say “friend of the family”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “friend of the family, friend of the family.”
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May 14, 2019 19:38
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Speaking of fascists in tabletop, Martin Elricsson aka Swedish Dracula got shitcanned from World of Darkness and is now doing his own Black Dog-adjacent thing.
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May 14, 2019 19:45
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Mansplaining also got ruined, it meant a very specific thing and got turned into "a man I don't like is talking" No it hasn’t. It’s just been used wrongly or to attack people. A word being used wrong sometimes doesn’t change its definition, it needs to take on a wholly different meaning like “SJW” to be ruined.
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May 14, 2019 20:30
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jakodee posted:No it hasn’t. It’s just been used wrongly or to attack people. A word being used wrong sometimes doesn’t change its definition, it needs to take on a wholly different meaning like “SJW” to be ruined. I saw it used about 8:1 the wrong way. It just literally now means "oh look, a man is talking and I don't like him/what he's saying" I mean it's not all bad, we got "BBQ Becky" as a term in the last 6 months and everyone knows exactly who that is, and I doubt it will be corrupted because it's such a concrete signifier.
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May 14, 2019 21:50
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I do not think that is the case and it definitely does not match how I see that term being used.
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May 14, 2019 22:05
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Some of the women I work with use mansplain for any situation in which our boss is explaining something or directing us to do work and it's annoying. So yeah anyway I think the words gone more broad than female doctor or scientist online dealing with a chud.
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May 14, 2019 22:33
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I mean it's not all bad, we got "BBQ Becky" as a term in the last 6 months and everyone knows exactly who that is, and I doubt it will be corrupted because it's such a concrete signifier. 
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May 14, 2019 22:36
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Anyone who says "mansplaining is just when a man talks now" should be treated with the skepticism of someone saying "racism is just when a white person talks now."
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May 14, 2019 22:36
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FactsAreUseless posted:Anyone who says "mansplaining is just when a man talks now" should be treated with the skepticism of someone saying "racism is just when a white person talks now." I agree. I felt like he was kind of editorialising and didn't mean every single use of the word is wrong. The first thing that leapt out at me was work because I work with a lot of left wing gen x women and they really fire out the buzzwords.
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May 14, 2019 22:41
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It's funny to me that Megamans Jockstrap is mansplaining about mansplaining.
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May 14, 2019 22:50
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I saw it used about 8:1 the wrong way. It just literally now means "oh look, a man is talking and I don't like him/what he's saying" so how often are you the one who is a man talking and being told he's mansplaining
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May 14, 2019 23:07
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FactsAreUseless posted:Anyone who says "mansplaining is just when a man talks now" should be treated with the skepticism of someone saying "racism is just when a white person talks now." It used to mean a very narrow thing that was very useful, which was a man explaining to a woman in a condescending or patronizing way (usually something she already knew). This was a very concrete behavior that everyone could understand and relate to, a particular form of insidious sexism, and wasn't nebulous at all. It was an extremely good word. Now it's this: RagnarokAngel posted:It's funny to me that Megamans Jockstrap is mansplaining about mansplaining. It basically means, "a man is saying something I don't agree with" and this is exactly what I was talking about. At no point have I condescended to you at all. I've posted two things on it and they are both my observations about how the word, which again I gotta stress was a really useful word that put a button on a very lovely sexist phenomenon, is now mostly worthless. Mors Rattus posted:so how often are you the one who is a man talking and being told he's mansplaining See? It's just a way to be insulting now.
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May 14, 2019 23:10
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you didn't answer my question which is 'how often are you accused of mansplaining' because that is seriously the only way I can imagine you having this idea of it being misused constantly e: though you definitely are trying to shout your personal explanation over everyone else, man, no matter who disagrees
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May 14, 2019 23:12
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Let me explain in detail to you why I am using words wrong, since you obviously didn't understand the first two times I used them incorrectly.
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May 14, 2019 23:13
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This is some Andy Kaufman-level performance art poo poo going on here.
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May 14, 2019 23:15
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Mors Rattus posted:you didn't answer my question Sorry, any further discussion on this constitutes mansplaining on my part, so I'm going to be a Good Ally and drop it. https://twitter.com/search?q=bernie%20sanders%20mansplaining&src=typd Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 23:28 on May 14, 2019 |
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May 14, 2019 23:18
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Sorry, any further discussion on this constitutes mansplaining on my part, so I'm going to be a Good Ally and drop it.
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May 14, 2019 23:20
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I saw it used about 8:1 the wrong way. It just literally now means "oh look, a man is talking and I don't like him/what he's saying" Is it you? Are you the one who keeps getting told to stop mansplaining when you talk? Could you... think of a reason other than the corruption of the word for that to keep coming up?
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May 15, 2019 00:04
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Sorry, any further discussion on this constitutes mansplaining on my part, so I'm going to be a Good Ally and drop it. Oh. I didn’t read further down the thread. We now know that “mansplaining” is a more important word than ever it seems.
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May 15, 2019 00:05
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ffs just put the wretched turd on ignore
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May 15, 2019 00:21
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Fwiw, I've seen people using Mansplaining wrong or sometimes used as something a straw-feminist/liberal/SJW/etc. says
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May 15, 2019 02:59
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I hear people misuse mansplaining and virtue signaling but people get complex concepts wrong all the time every day. How many times per minute is "Ad Hominem" or "Strawman Argument" misused on Reddit?
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May 15, 2019 03:27
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PinheadSlim posted:I hear people misuse mansplaining and virtue signaling but people get complex concepts wrong all the time every day. I think that's what was being said. I honestly find it more annoying when meaningful political language gets co-opted or misused. It's like the branding of any public spending socialism. gently caress off with that. Then again they've done it long enough that the youf like socialism now so 
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May 15, 2019 03:29
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PinheadSlim posted:How many times per minute is "Ad Hominem" or "Strawman Argument" misused on Reddit? See? That was an ad hominem and a strawman. Now you know! (I don't really think you're an idiot, Slim, I'm just bored and poo poo-posting)
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May 15, 2019 04:13
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Ilor posted:You're a loving idiot. Your contention that everyone on Reddit is disingenuous because of how they use terminology in ways that you don't agree with is fundamentally false because it ascribes intent where none may exist. It read like the average Reddit comment, 10/10 quality shitpost, friend 
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May 15, 2019 04:21
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Ilor posted:You're a loving idiot. Your contention that everyone on Reddit is disingenuous because of how they use terminology in ways that you don't agree with is fundamentally false because it ascribes intent where none may exist. Yeesh you should’ve seen my face reading this Ilor, please don’t scare me like that.
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May 15, 2019 05:23
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May 15, 2019 06:29
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Literally no word means the same thing on Shanley's twitter that it does anywhere else. It's kind of magical.
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May 15, 2019 06:56
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This thread jumped the shark.
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May 15, 2019 23:52
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BoneMonkey posted:This thread jumped the shark. If you think this is bad you should see the painting uninspiration thread.
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May 15, 2019 23:58
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BoneMonkey posted:This thread jumped the shark. This shark eats fascists.
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