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Powershift posted:https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/flood-plains-1.5135336 The Ottawa River isn't even a river anymore, it's a series of about 13 big dams and reservoirs that each raise the natural level of the river by 6-20m, managed in the dark by people focused on generating electricity, not preventing property damage. There's hundreds of dams if you count the tributaries. These man made floods really need to start being counted, at least partially, as an externality of hydro power so we can get to the nuclear holy land faster. There really needs to be an inquiry deep into how OPG decides which logs to remove and which to add. There never will be, I can't imagine the province letting them take on that kind of liability. They're making decisions like flood arnprior to save hull which should really be made by an organization with some transparency and accountability. There has to be room for improvement.
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A guy I was sandbagging with was arguing with the home owner while we're chest deep that it couldn't be climate change because that should mean less snow. I explained the povo idea and kind of broached it in terms of increased likelihood rather than this is climate change (eg. we'll probably get more snow in snowy years and arctic air slips down more often for a late spring increasing odds of ground still being frozen by the time heavy spring rains come) and he didn't dismiss it outright so progress I guess. tbh the "this is climate change" people annoy me just as much as the not climate change people, it's just probability. Either way, climate change isn't the reason they can't start dropping the ottawa a couple of weeks earlier to save us 2-3 feet of river level.
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have you considered not living in a floodplain? ..i say, living in what was clearly a basin of an ancient sea
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If I wake up and there's a giant glacier blocking the st lawrence again, I will concede that, perhaps, the climate has changed.
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infernal machines posted:have you considered not living in a floodplain? Its funny, a friend of a friend does property law, and she lives in Calgary. She was up here in Edmonton and was shocked that we haven't developed the river valley more, since you could fit a lot of houses down there. She made these comments as Calgarians were being evacuated due to flooding.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:The Ottawa River isn't even a river anymore, it's a series of about 13 big dams and reservoirs that each raise the natural level of the river by 6-20m, managed in the dark by people focused on generating electricity, not preventing property damage. hydro power is cool and good but only if more than zero dollars is spent on maintenance and planning
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Accretionist posted:Under Harper, Canadian scientists were silenced about climate change. Phone calls were monitored. Scientists were threatened, ruined. They would be followed around by government minders. It's pretty hosed up. don't forget investigators looking into his poo poo mysteriously vanishing
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Yinlock posted:hydro power is cool and good but only if more than zero dollars is spent on maintenance and planning yeah it's like nuclear. nuclear is great! until the public decides that paying to maintain infrastructure is too costly.
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Dreylad posted:yeah it's like nuclear. nuclear is great! until the public decides that paying to maintain infrastructure is too costly. the rich don't really like that whole "maintenance" thing, it sounds like poor work
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infernal machines posted:have you considered not living in a floodplain? it's ok, we're still rebounding from all that ice that was here. sure hope it doesn't come back.
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priznat posted:erm, but if a house is on a flood plain and catastrophic floods are getting worse, nobody would or should buy it for any price. Governments should prevent people from moving there since theyd just be bailing them out. (literally) living in a floodplain, just like living in an economically decaying rural township with more miles of road than humans, is an important part of the Canadian cultural fabric, and it is a moral imperative that we support it however crystal clear the eventual consequence is, and whatever the cost
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mind you Id rather burn billions rescuing peoples inbred show dogs from the top of McMansion roofs than give Bombardier bus fare, so its maybe not the biggest problem
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May 15, 2019 13:06
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happy 100th anniversary of the winnipeg general strike
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Doug Ford got booed at the send off for Ontario's Special Olympics athletes last night. I'm trying to be better person so I'm not going to make a joke.
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Yinlock posted:don't forget investigators looking into his poo poo mysteriously vanishing Wait, what?
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Another Bill posted:Doug Ford got booed at the send off for Ontario's Special Olympics athletes last night. I hope by the special olympians
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Yinlock posted:the rich don't really like that whole "maintenance" thing, it sounds like poor work what if there were a state-run custodian of some important resource that the private sector can't be trusted to not gently caress up it could run a bit like a company, except instead of trying to turn a profit, their goal should be responsible, accountable stewardship
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DariusLikewise posted:happy 100th anniversary of the winnipeg general strike Proud to be a descendant of a striker.
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gently caress em up, Horgan!! about god drat time. Not optimistic this will lead to charges or anything but shining a light on this crap is way overdue.
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priznat posted:gently caress em up, Horgan!! They're going back to UWOs and we're going to find out in 20 years that 85% of UWOs were used within 5km of a first nations community, and less than 1% of them were used on L plate lambos with frunks full of cash. lol
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May 15, 2019 21:31
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Kinda gettin ahead of ourselves here.
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May 15, 2019 21:34
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priznat posted:Kinda gettin ahead of ourselves here. Yeah, you're right, they're gonna try to get in between the only money coming into the province and the bullshit businesses it's propping up like mercedes dealers don't make campaign contributions.
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May 15, 2019 21:37
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Powershift posted:Yeah, you're right, they're gonna try to get in between the only money coming into the province and the bullshit businesses it's propping up like mercedes dealers don't make campaign contributions. I always assume the NDP are super concerned with the stability of the Liberal Party's campaign contribution machine.
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May 15, 2019 22:23
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Another Bill posted:Doug Ford got booed at the send off for Ontario's Special Olympics athletes last night. "wow, this is the fist time i've ever been booed" it ain't gonna be the last, dipshit.
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May 15, 2019 22:25
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infernal machines posted:have you considered not living in a floodplain? *nods wisely as he sits on his bed, on an island atop one of the most active fault zones in the world*
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May 15, 2019 22:54
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I'd believe it more if they didn't announce public inquiries and we only found out about them after doors were smashed down and photos of mountains of laptops and paperwork are infront of the podium
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May 15, 2019 23:35
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I think you want to announce it so that people might come to you unprompted in search of lenience.
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Subjunctive posted:I think you want to announce it so that people might come to you unprompted in search of lenience. Leniency would be an hour a day of open skies above their head for the next 25 years
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May 15, 2019 23:40
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Leniency would be an hour a day of open skies above their head for the next 25 years sure, and if you cooperate that hour can be during daylight
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Subjunctive posted:sure, and if you cooperate that hour can be during daylight Bleeding heart hippy! Point taken on the cooperation thing thougj
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May 15, 2019 23:44
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Donald Trump just pardoned motherfucking Conrad Black
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Another Bill posted:Donald Trump just pardoned motherfucking Conrad Black They can keep him.
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Maybe he will return.
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Another Bill posted:Donald Trump just pardoned motherfucking Conrad Black probably just to gaslight people saying he hasn't pardoned any black people.
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I'm thinking of joining the Communist Party of Canada, and I wanted to see if there are any serious issues with the party that should make me reconsider. I asked D&D and they told me the party was garbage because they support Maduro, FARC, and protested that Huawei executive getting arrested. Also some weird takes on twitter from 2017, including calling a neo-Nazi a Nazi and then something to do with fluoride. Anyways, D&D doesn't exactly have me convinced. So what's the consensus here in Cspam?
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Kindest Forums User posted:I'm thinking of joining the Communist Party of Canada, and I wanted to see if there are any serious issues with the party that should make me reconsider. I asked D&D and they told me the party was garbage because they support Maduro, FARC, and protested that Huawei executive getting arrested. Also some weird takes on twitter from 2017, including calling a neo-Nazi a Nazi and then something to do with fluoride. Anyways, D&D doesn't exactly have me convinced. So what's the consensus here in Cspam?  See this here is your problem
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Kindest Forums User posted:I'm thinking of joining the Communist Party of Canada, and I wanted to see if there are any serious issues with the party that should make me reconsider. I asked D&D and they told me the party was garbage because they support Maduro, FARC, and protested that Huawei executive getting arrested. Also some weird takes on twitter from 2017, including calling a neo-Nazi a Nazi and then something to do with fluoride. Anyways, D&D doesn't exactly have me convinced. So what's the consensus here in Cspam? Its bad op
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the posters here are the same ones in d&d who think youre nuts
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Jordan7hm posted:the posters here are the same ones in d&d who think youre nuts 
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supporting Maduro is extremely good
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