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Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.

Fashionable Jorts posted:

I imagine that's the same sort of idea of how the Green Party made the news when they doubled the number of seats they have.

Edit: also "globalism eroding our society" is fascist speak for "I don't like all these immigrants"

hmmm. I was talking about how we've pretty much lost all democratic control over our economies because multinational companies essentially exist outside of the state. But yeah, globalism and immigration

Postess with the Mostest posted:

How does one fight climate change and globalization at the same time? It seems like one would want to be on the inside of the global economy if one was going to want to influence other nations into making economic sacrifices to improve the global climate.

good point. Maybe I should try and become the CEO of Samsung then.

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Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.

DariusLikewise posted:

it sounds like you are already a member of the communist party and are trying convince us to join, not asking if it's a good idea to join, nice bias

No, I'm not a member. I was honestly curious if anybody on this forum had any insight. It's pretty much my only avenue to discuss these things. I actually thought that more people would have some more valuable information other than "they're small and stupid and suck". I guess nobody has had much interactions with them, aside from the few posters who have attended their events.
I'll have to find out more about the party myself! I'll fill you in.



DariusLikewise posted:

electoral power isnt possible for any party federally other than the libs or the cons unless we end up in some sort of weird kingmaker minority scenario and even then the libcons would probably just prop each other up anyways.

any organization using the word 'communist' in the name is ever going to get enough widespread support socially to have any influence whatsoever. like im glad the local cpc organization in your area has gone from 30 to 35 members, but hanging out with some niche dudes isnt going to help the world. as an activist you are better off trying to organize people into single-issue groups and protests at this point and leading into organized movements from there.

:same:


You're probably right. And that's why I'm hesitant. But I hear about the 200 million people strike that was lead by the Communist Party of India. And then I think that the future might not be decided by some electoral bubble here in Canada. But rather by a global movement. Why should I shy away from showing solidarity in the global south, and redesign something that's showing great success in so many places in the world, but just not here in Canada.

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
So out of curiosity, when did this journey begin..? Roughly 1pm yesterday? You seem remarkably locked in on this bad idea for someone "just asking questions".

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
You should follow your heart dude, they easily have the best logo and are like the 2nd or 3rd oldest party in the country. Long time since they peaked in the prewar years, but still.

Never take advice from canpol goons tho, we're responsible for the suicide awareness stickies after all

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

James Baud posted:

So out of curiosity, when did this journey begin..? Roughly 1pm yesterday? You seem remarkably locked in on this bad idea for someone "just asking questions".

what

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.

James Baud posted:

So out of curiosity, when did this journey begin..? Roughly 1pm yesterday? You seem remarkably locked in on this bad idea for someone "just asking questions".

I got asked to join the party this week! I have some time to devote to political work, and I'm wondering if it's worth my effort.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Fashionable Jorts posted:

I imagine that's the same sort of idea of how the Green Party made the news when they doubled the number of seats they have.

Edit: also "globalism eroding our society" is fascist speak for "I don't like all these immigrants"

hey that's unfair, it's also sometimes code for "i don't like jews"

cougar cub
Jun 28, 2004

Kindest Forums User posted:

I got asked to join the party this week! I have some time to devote to political work, and I'm wondering if it's worth my effort.

I wouldn’t worry about it. You come across as the type of person who would eventually split with any left leaning political group for not being pure enough.

littleorv
Jan 29, 2011

I'm going to join a militant First Nations political party

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
im going to bring back the natual law party of canada

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Every person I've ever known who joined the cpc was basically a try hard contrarian edgelord who cared more about making people uncomfortable with gestures like flag burnings than about income inequality and who quit after 6 months once they realized that nobody cares.

Maybe things have changed since the rage against the machine era.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
What the gently caress am I supposed to do with three Bran Van tickets <:mad:>

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
bran van is playing?

where?

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

DariusLikewise posted:

im going to bring back the natual law party of canada

Same, but Rhino Party.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Late to the party here. My brother has extensively worked with the CPC, but doesn't seem to recommend officially joining. He advocates for organizing workplaces, as well as entryism in the NDP, where he saw some success at the provincial level.

The CPC might be a good resource, but aren't going to be the source of any major changes. Real hope lies in the workplace and dragging the NDP kicking and screaming to the real left.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

IÃÂÃŒÂÌ° Ó̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉mÃÂ̺̩ Ç̬A̡̮̞̠ÚÉ̱̫ K̶eÓgÃÂ.̻̱̪̕Ö̹̟
CPC stands for Canadian Progressive Conservatives right?

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:

CPC stands for Canadian Progressive Conservatives right?

Communist Party of Canada, in this case

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.

Virtual Russian posted:

Late to the party here. My brother has extensively worked with the CPC, but doesn't seem to recommend officially joining. He advocates for organizing workplaces, as well as entryism in the NDP, where he saw some success at the provincial level.

The CPC might be a good resource, but aren't going to be the source of any major changes. Real hope lies in the workplace and dragging the NDP kicking and screaming to the real left.

Ok, cool. Thank you. I think I'm leaning towards this.


Virtual Russian posted:

organizing workplaces
This is something I've been thinking a lot about lately. I'm going to be apart of a weird trade union that I don't believe is doing a good job representing its workers or promoting inclusion (gender & race). I feel like I could take the opportunity to start molding the union into something better. But I have no idea where to start. Does anybody have any recommended materials/literature/cases that may help me?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
are you comfortable telling us which union?

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.
No, sorry, it's pretty specific.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
NP.

Although your methods are going to depend on knowing you audience, so you'll need to sort that poo poo out. I work with some transit union folks and they are not all the wokest leftists you'll ever meet, but they do believe in solidarity so long as you frame it right.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Kindest Forums User posted:

No, I'm not a member. I was honestly curious if anybody on this forum had any insight. It's pretty much my only avenue to discuss these things.

Okay this is a bad idea

go outside and talk to people in real life and enrich yourself, it changes your perspective a lot when you're not just tilting at windmills online

source: me, cause I'm doing it myself.

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Kindest Forums User posted:

No, sorry, it's pretty specific.

if it's CLAC, get a new job

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Eox posted:

if it's CLAC, get a new job

lmao I'd never heard of CLAC, what a shitheap

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy


i decided to refresh my memory on them, i have never seen this warning on wikipedia until today

e: jesus christ that phone screenshot is huge

Eox has issued a correction as of 14:37 on May 17, 2019

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
Hit and run in downtown Ottawa

Ottawa Police posted:

He is described as an Aboriginal male, 5’10” (178cm), skinny with long black hair. He was seen after the incident on a surveillance camera at the Rideau Centre, wearing a light coloured jacket over a hoodie, blue jeans and white sneakers with two stripes on the side. He was carrying a blue backpack (see picture).

Ottawa Citizen posted:

Police described the suspect as an Aboriginal male, standing 5-10. He is slim and was last seen with long black hair. Images of the man were captured after the incident on a surveillance camera at the Rideau Centre.

At the time he was wearing a light coloured jacket over a hoodie, blue jeans and white sneakers with two stripes on the side. He was carrying a blue backpack.

CBC posted:

The suspect is described as a skinny man with long black hair standing five feet 10 inches tall, according to police.

He was seen on a surveillance camera at the Rideau Centre, not far from where the van was abandoned, wearing a light-coloured jacket over a hooded sweatshirt, blue jeans and white sneakers with two stripes on the side.

He was also carrying a blue backpack.

*Comments disabled*

Thanks CBC

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Ah, "pretending racial descriptors don't exist", that surefire way to fix racism

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
the galaxy brain response to backlash over articles with headlines like why is there so much violence in the &minority group& community? was to remove the minority group part

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Virtual Russian posted:

Late to the party here. My brother has extensively worked with the CPC, but doesn't seem to recommend officially joining. He advocates for organizing workplaces, as well as entryism in the NDP, where he saw some success at the provincial level.

The CPC might be a good resource, but aren't going to be the source of any major changes. Real hope lies in the workplace and dragging the NDP kicking and screaming to the real left.

Pretty much this. My grandpa was an actual communist back in the 50s/60s, but didn't join the CPC. He just worked alongside them organizing strikes and labour movements. He was pretty close friends with Rachel Notley's father, which is cool.

While he would have loved to have seen the NDP win Alberta, he would have been very frustrated with how centrist the Alberta NDP are.

Fashionable Jorts has issued a correction as of 15:48 on May 17, 2019

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


McGavin posted:

Same, but Rhino Party.

sign me up

Lien
Oct 17, 2006
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Kindest Forums User posted:

Ok, cool. Thank you. I think I'm leaning towards this.

This is something I've been thinking a lot about lately. I'm going to be apart of a weird trade union that I don't believe is doing a good job representing its workers or promoting inclusion (gender & race). I feel like I could take the opportunity to start molding the union into something better. But I have no idea where to start. Does anybody have any recommended materials/literature/cases that may help me?

I have heard good things about joining the wobblies as they have resources for people who are in unions already but want to make them more effective/radical, although I don't know what their presence in Canada is like.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
Never effortposting in d&d again

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
https://twitter.com/waub/status/1129224411754766337?s=20


Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Defense Watch Watch: Good news?!?

Vice-Admiral Mark Norman has been somewhat vindicated, the fed dropped the lawsuit against him, with the prosecuting attorney saying publicly "we've got nothing". It could be that the Fed thought it'd just be a drag next election, but it's satisfying to see their horseshit fail so abjectly

Defense Watch has a good summary

Norman of course is now demanding his old job bad just to twist the knife in his former comrades in arms at the DND

Also, Canada and the F-35 have taken a new turn. OK, so remember when the fed took de-facto policy and made it official, that any fighter design had to officially promise that industrial baksheeh? Well it turns out that's not allowed in the framework in which the F-35 was developed, which actually wants F-35 sub-components to be sourced competitively, and explicitly forbids nations from trying to get more baksheeh done in their own nation. While Canada now is BFFs with LockMart, this doesn't seem like a big problem, but Trump of course took this and turned it into an ultimatum, which gives Trudeau a valid pretext for excluding the F-35 as he'll be able to say it was the Americans who took it off the table, not him

Also this seems defense related:

Money Laundering a Canadian, not a BC problem

quote:

It estimated that last year, roughly $46.7 billion was laundered via the Canadian economy, with B.C. responsible for roughly $7.4 billion of that total.

Here's the spit take:

quote:

The report ranks several regions based on their flow of illegal money, placing B.C., in fifth place behind Alberta, Ontario, Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

e: laffo, so if you wanted a very Canadian headline into fighting money laundering, what would you pick?

"Done with asking nicely" BC opens public inquiry into money laundering

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


you can buy everything in saskatchewan for $7.4b, how the poo poo is it ahead of BC in money laundering

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
All that sweet sweet potash bought with hockey bags filled with hundies

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Powershift posted:

you can buy everything in saskatchewan for $7.4b, how the poo poo is it ahead of BC in money laundering

Looks like the report combined Saskatchewan and Manitoba into "the prairies", so you could probably cut that number in half for each province.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Kindest Forums User posted:

No, I'm not a member. I was honestly curious if anybody on this forum had any insight. It's pretty much my only avenue to discuss these things. I actually thought that more people would have some more valuable information other than "they're small and stupid and suck". I guess nobody has had much interactions with them, aside from the few posters who have attended their events.
I'll have to find out more about the party myself! I'll fill you in.

you're not gonna find any useful information here because c-spam is mostly liberals pretending they're communists, sorry

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!
We could direct him/her to a more amenable forum, Guyovich. It could always use some new blood...

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Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Robot Style posted:

Looks like the report combined Saskatchewan and Manitoba into "the prairies", so you could probably cut that number in half for each province.

Two provinces, each pointing at the other- "It's him, I swear!"

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