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luxury handset posted:yeah, it's absurd the NHTSA isn't cracking down on tesla for fraud because this dumbass autopilot branding is killing people and will continue to kill people I mean. Are Tesla customers really people? Also until Elon says something mean to the president on twitter there'll never be meaningful federal action against them.
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Doggles posted:Sound familiar? Just how narrow is the FoV on the thing?
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Mister Facetious posted:Just how narrow is the FoV on the thing? I suspect it's probably more about the inability to distinguish the broad, flat surface of the truck from the sky.
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May 16, 2019 21:40
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Mister Facetious posted:Just how narrow is the FoV on the thing? iirc the problem is that the tesla autopilot doesn't use lidar, but rather processing images through a regular rear end camera, so that the system can miss things like a white truck that is roughly the same color as the sky moving perpendicularly to the roadway. which is why with any self driving technology that is on the market the driver needs to be vigilant of all potential hazards, except that is absolutely not how the product is being sold or how people use it, so easily preventable fatalities e: here https://www.tesla.com/blog/tragic-loss quote:Following our standard practice, Tesla informed NHTSA about the incident immediately after it occurred. What we know is that the vehicle was on a divided highway with Autopilot engaged when a tractor trailer drove across the highway perpendicular to the Model S. Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied. The high ride height of the trailer combined with its positioning across the road and the extremely rare circumstances of the impact caused the Model S to pass under the trailer, with the bottom of the trailer impacting the windshield of the Model S. Had the Model S impacted the front or rear of the trailer, even at high speed, its advanced crash safety system would likely have prevented serious injury as it has in numerous other similar incidents. Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 21:45 on May 16, 2019 |
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May 16, 2019 21:41
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luxury handset posted:iirc the problem is that the tesla autopilot doesn't use lidar, Profit at all costs
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May 16, 2019 21:46
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Mister Facetious posted:Profit at all costs I don't think LIDAR is all that much more expensive. I've heard that Musk simply "doesn't like it".
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May 17, 2019 01:08
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Mister Facetious posted:What the gently caress, are you serious quote:“LiDAR is a fool’s errand, and anyone who relies on LiDAR is doomed. It’s like having expensive appendices. You’ll see,” Musk said. that quote isn't even a month old
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:that quote isn't even a month old Couldn't... couldn't they use a combinatorial approach?
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May 17, 2019 01:42
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There Bias Two posted:Couldn't... couldn't they use a combinatorial approach? That's what I was thinking; you make a 3d composite image with the two. Add in smart learning- object/pattern recognition and such, and the car can start getting a comprehensive idea of what's around it. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 01:46 on May 17, 2019 |
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May 17, 2019 01:43
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There Bias Two posted:Couldn't... couldn't they use a combinatorial approach? not without redesigning the car and retrofitting all the teslas already out on the road musk painted himself into a corner when he promised self-driving via ota updates, so now tesla's extant models are locked into a half assed lovely self driving functionality with gimped hardware, which is recklessly sold to the public as being far better and safer than it actually is
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luxury handset posted:iirc the problem is that the tesla autopilot doesn't use lidar, but rather processing images through a regular rear end camera, so that the system can miss things like a white truck that is roughly the same color as the sky moving perpendicularly to the roadway. which is why with any self driving technology that is on the market the driver needs to be vigilant of all potential hazards, except that is absolutely not how the product is being sold or how people use it, so easily preventable fatalities I like how they say "neither autopilot nor the driver" noticed the huge loving truck driving right through the middle of the road. It's not like the driver was distracted cause they assumed they could trust their autopilot, they just didn't notice.
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Harik posted:This IPO was for bailing out private equity with pension funds and whatever dumb shmucks on the market buy in. "Boo hoo we're underwater" says investor who gets out with 90c on the dollar instead of nothing at all. yeah, socialising the losses
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Get ready for Penis and Racist Grafitti World everyone: https://twitter.com/verge/status/1129371039622979585 EDIT: No screw that, THIS is the tech nightmare: https://twitter.com/verge/status/1129383403063795712  RIP
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AceOfFlames posted:Get ready for Penis and Racist Grafitti World everyone: She was only 7 That is tragically young for a kitty.
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May 17, 2019 15:20
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anonumos posted:I don't think LIDAR is all that much more expensive. I've heard that Musk simply "doesn't like it". Lol remember that they don't have anything in their factory painted yellow because Musk hates yellow. Yellow is of course how the rest of the world marks things like lanes for fork trucks and dangerous machinery.
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May 17, 2019 15:32
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Feinne posted:Lol remember that they don't have anything in their factory painted yellow because Musk hates yellow. Yikes. One would have to have a gigantic ego to ignore best practices to that degree.
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May 17, 2019 15:42
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There Bias Two posted:Yikes. One would have to have a gigantic ego to ignore best practices to that degree. yeah and because it's just regular manufacturing instead of big boy space manufacturing there's nobody around to tell musk no when he doubles down on blatantly stupid poo poo
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Why be concerned for safety when your production floor is going to be staffed solely by 10x overclocked robo arms?
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May 17, 2019 20:25
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Feinne posted:Lol remember that they don't have anything in their factory painted yellow because Musk hates yellow. I mean, there are other high vis colors like fluorescent orange, I assume they use one of those instead. lol no I don't assume that because Elon Musk
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May 17, 2019 20:26
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anonumos posted:I don't think LIDAR is all that much more expensive. I've heard that Musk simply "doesn't like it". LiDAR systems for self driving cars are multiples on $10k. You can’t put them on a “$35k” car and have it still be that price. I know there are people working on bringing down the cost, like Waymo. But scale isn’t there yet and if you want to sell cars now you super swear will be self driving, you have no choice but to lie.
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I thought the color that Tesla factories hated the most was black. Truthfully I don't know how those stories keep getting swept under the rug but I guess Tesla PR does a better job than their QA.
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Family Values posted:I mean, there are other high vis colors like fluorescent orange, I assume they use one of those instead. lol no I don't assume that because Elon Musk I feel like things did in fact maybe end up not getting painted in a proper high vis color because Musk wanted it a certain way.
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He hates yellow because it harms the Green Lantern, right? Did I make that up?
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There Bias Two posted:She was only 7 Wasn't the whole Grumpy Cat thing because of a physical deformity that made physical activity difficult?
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Trevor Hale posted:He hates yellow because it harms the Green Lantern, right? Did I make that up? Well here's the article: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/04/tesla-workers-getting-hurt-because-elon-musk-hates-yellow.html Their fork truck lanes are grey lines and they're not allowed to wear safety shoes.
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Feinne posted:Well here's the article: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/04/tesla-workers-getting-hurt-because-elon-musk-hates-yellow.html This is why OSHA should have its own uniformed service.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:This is why OSHA should have its own uniformed service. I want to attend OSHA training on no‐knock raids.
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Last Chance posted:“Safety third. There’s not even a Rule Number Two. But even though there’s nothing in second place, safety is not getting promoted to number two.” I just made the connection that Musk is literally the insane inventor/entrepreneur guy from Portal 2. Game came out in 2011 and Musk was around in 2011, it must actually have been based on him to some extent. Amazing how spot-on and fresh that game is for something that is now eight (8!) years old icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 07:13 on May 18, 2019 |
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May 18, 2019 07:06
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Portal 2 was so good. I wish Valve still made single player games.
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Cicero posted:Portal 2 was so good. I wish Valve still made single player games. Considering how Artifact turned out, it's probably for the best that Valve stays out of game development
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Missionary Positron posted:Considering how Artifact turned out, it's probably for the best that Valve stays out of game development I mean the game was fine, the problem was basically everything not directly related to gameplay. A shame since I had some fun with it; not enough to pay out the rear end but if it were f2p like hearthstone or if my purchase gave me more poo poo I wouldn't be so annoyed at it.
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Don Gato posted:I mean the game was fine It was not fine enough to have 100 simultaneous players 2 months after release
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Feinne posted:Well here's the article: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/04/tesla-workers-getting-hurt-because-elon-musk-hates-yellow.html i cant imagine a reason to not let people wear steel-toe shoes other then wanting to be sued
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Wasn't the whole Grumpy Cat thing because of a physical deformity that made physical activity difficult? Yes, which is also why they had originally named the cat Tard, because it looked funny.
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mandatory lesbian posted:i cant imagine a reason to not let people wear steel-toe shoes other then wanting to be sued It's phenomenal to have a workspace where instead of getting fired for not wearing the proper PPE, the opposite happens.
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Feinne posted:It's phenomenal to have a workspace where instead of getting fired for not wearing the proper PPE, the opposite happens. I dont think you're disruptive enough
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