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Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Nelson Mandela was white because he has an Anglo name.
:goonsay:

# ? May 18, 2019 12:50

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Nelson mandela has a simpsons name

# ? May 18, 2019 13:31

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

Huh. I always assumed Mandela was a Xhosa name.

# ? May 18, 2019 13:32

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Facebook Aunt posted:

Not just that, I'm pretty sure in some of the residential schools they assigned the kids proper english (or french) names if the school didn't like the name they came in with. I know they did that for first names, but probably last names too.

Wouldnt surprise me. It was the same thing in Greenland, Lappland, etc. Here's a new name, deal with it.

Also in this context it's worth mention that nothing like that happened to immigrants on Ellis Island. Literally everyone who passed through had tickets with their written names, passenger manifests, etc. No misunderstandings whatsoever, everybody was extremely painstaking. It was later that some changed their names from say Jensen to Johnson etc.

e: "Lord" Horatio Nelson was a war criminal who disregarded a white flag and bombarded a civilian population.

# ? May 18, 2019 14:50

Mescal: Jul 23, 2005

The MSJ posted:

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# ? May 18, 2019 16:23

madeintaipei: Jul 13, 2012

Krankenstyle posted:

Wouldnt surprise me. It was the same thing in Greenland, Lappland, etc. Here's a new name, deal with it.

Also in this context it's worth mention that nothing like that happened to immigrants on Ellis Island. Literally everyone who passed through had tickets with their written names, passenger manifests, etc. No misunderstandings whatsoever, everybody was extremely painstaking. It was later that some changed their names from say Jensen to Johnson etc.

e: "Lord" Horatio Nelson was a war criminal who disregarded a white flag and bombarded a civilian population.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NVPe_gfZQ

# ? May 18, 2019 16:37

M_Sinistrari: Sep 5, 2008; Do you like scary movies?

Krankenstyle posted:

Wouldnt surprise me. It was the same thing in Greenland, Lappland, etc. Here's a new name, deal with it.

Also in this context it's worth mention that nothing like that happened to immigrants on Ellis Island. Literally everyone who passed through had tickets with their written names, passenger manifests, etc. No misunderstandings whatsoever, everybody was extremely painstaking. It was later that some changed their names from say Jensen to Johnson etc.

When one of my ancestors was going through Ellis Island, the guy processing his papers mistook the 'a' at the end of his last name as an 'o'. We never bothered changing it back.

# ? May 18, 2019 17:12

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Krankenstyle posted:

Wouldnt surprise me. It was the same thing in Greenland, Lappland, etc. Here's a new name, deal with it.

Also in this context it's worth mention that nothing like that happened to immigrants on Ellis Island. Literally everyone who passed through had tickets with their written names, passenger manifests, etc. No misunderstandings whatsoever, everybody was extremely painstaking. It was later that some changed their names from say Jensen to Johnson etc.

e: "Lord" Horatio Nelson was a war criminal who disregarded a white flag and bombarded a civilian population.

There were illiterate people getting anglophone spellings or non-anglophone names, no wholesale renamings but plenty of "eh gently caress it"s.

# ? May 18, 2019 17:26

By popular demand: Jul 17, 2007; IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!

Something similar happened with my grandpa: he decided that his Romanian family name would be hard for people to write and so he changed it to something common.
With a slightly unusual spelling as he didn't master Hebrew at the time.
:shrug:

# ? May 18, 2019 17:32

Azathoth: Apr 3, 2001

Former DILF posted:

"Says grand cheif Johnathan Soloman"

Ah yes, the famous Cree family called "Soloman"

Canada has a long and storied history of trying to stamp out Native culture and identity, and this is just a tiny part of it.

https://www.ictinc.ca/indian-act-naming-policies posted:

...

The Indian agents on the west coast of Canada often used biblical names from different religious denominations

...

If you think about saying "why didn't they just not get a surname", ask Annie E7-121.

You can gently caress right off with your bullshit.

# ? May 18, 2019 18:09

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

M_Sinistrari posted:

When one of my ancestors was going through Ellis Island, the guy processing his papers mistook the 'a' at the end of his last name as an 'o'. We never bothered changing it back.

Terrible Opinions posted:

There were illiterate people getting anglophone spellings or non-anglophone names, no wholesale renamings but plenty of "eh gently caress it"s.

Typewriters existed and were indeed used. The namechanges came before or after.

# ? May 18, 2019 20:23

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Care to cite your sources on the typewriter somehow making government employees competent at their job and less racist?

# ? May 18, 2019 20:34

Phy: Jun 27, 2008; Fun Shoe

Krankenstyle posted:

that's a good word to know if you're mayochup in a first nations jurisdiction

"Why do you keep asking us for fry sauce? We're Mohawk."

# ? May 18, 2019 20:36

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Terrible Opinions posted:

Care to cite your sources on the typewriter somehow making government employees competent at their job and less racist?

look up your great gramps yourself. ellisisland.org

# ? May 18, 2019 21:13

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

My family's name was never screwed up at Ellis Island because it was two syllables.

# ? May 18, 2019 21:21

M_Sinistrari: Sep 5, 2008; Do you like scary movies?

Krankenstyle posted:

Typewriters existed and were indeed used. The namechanges came before or after.

https://www.gjenvick.com/Immigration/ImmigrantDocumentation/1923-EllisIslandHistoricalDocuments.html

While typewriters existed and all, not all the documentation was typed.

# ? May 19, 2019 03:10

d3lness: Feb 19, 2011; Unicorns are metal. Gundanium alloy to be exact...

Terrible Opinions posted:

My family's name was never screwed up at Ellis Island because it was two syllables.

I'm pretty sure plenty of people could gently caress up Two Syllables fairly easy. People have autocorrect on their phone and still bungle words left and right

# ? May 19, 2019 04:10

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Here's a smithsonian mag article on it

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/ask-smithsonian-did-ellis-island-officials-really-change-names-immigrants-180961544/

quote:

Ellis Island inspectors were not responsible for recording immigrants� names. Instead, any error likely happened overseas.

...

The ship�s manifest was presented to Ellis Island inspectors after the boat docked. From there, the inspector would cross-reference the name on the manifest with the immigrant passenger, and also ask 30 questions to screen out rabble-rousers, loafers, or the physically and mentally infirm, but also to glean information on who they would be living with and where in America, says Urban. The inspectors also would see if the answers matched those recorded by the shipping clerk before departure.

�If anything, Ellis Island officials were known to correct mistakes in passenger lists,� says Philip Sutton, a librarian in the Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, at the New York Public Library, in a blog post delving into the name change mythology.

More commonly, immigrants themselves would change their names, either to sound more American, or to melt into the immigrant community, where they were going to live, says Sutton. If name changes happened with any frequency on Ellis Island, it was not noted in any contemporaneous newspaper accounts or in recollections from inspectors, Sutton says.

It is also unlikely a foreign name would flummox an Ellis Island inspector. From 1892 to 1924, �one-third of all immigrant inspectors were themselves foreign-born, and all immigrant inspectors spoke an average of three languages,� says the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

# ? May 19, 2019 06:51

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

People don�t want to admit that their great great grandpappy changed his name to fit in.

# ? May 19, 2019 07:51

CapitanGarlic: Feb 29, 2004; Much, much more.

I've seen some bizarre slapfights in my day, but I thought most Americans stopped giving a poo poo about Ellis Island and its legacy approximately twenty minutes after sixth grade social studies

# ? May 19, 2019 08:17

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Genealogist greybeards care :c00lbert:

# ? May 19, 2019 09:54

Terrible Opinions: Oct 18, 2013

Reading the article I don't see how it's in any way in conflict with the "legend". Guy in Europe writes down name by hand, Ellis Island guy spells it wrong on type writer. Reason is due to either the European handwriting being wrong or illegible, and the passenger is illiterate. More people changed their name to fit in, but overworked immigration officers and shipping company employees still gently caress up regularly.

# ? May 19, 2019 10:14

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Sure it could happen, but there's no evidence that it did at any appreciable scale.

# ? May 19, 2019 10:41

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

CapitanGarlic posted:

I've seen some bizarre slapfights in my day, but I thought most Americans stopped giving a poo poo about Ellis Island and its legacy approximately twenty minutes after sixth grade social studies

Bunch of loving nerds interested in history and sociology and poo poo

Let's go smash beer cans with our truck nuts

# ? May 19, 2019 14:14

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

With all due respect to the horrible crime done to your ancestors of misspelling their names when they were freely allowed to come here from Europe by getting on a boat, I'm sure those coming after the various exclusion and quota acts have more harrowing tales.

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https://twitter.com/LaborStartUSA/status/1130131044055834624

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# ? May 19, 2019 15:57

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Terrible Opinions posted:

Reading the article I don't see how it's in any way in conflict with the "legend". Guy in Europe writes down name by hand, Ellis Island guy spells it wrong on type writer.

The Ellis island guy never had a chance to misspell or mistype it because he never wrote or typed it to begin with.

https://www.nypl.org/blog/2013/07/02/name-changes-ellis-island posted:

inspectors never wrote down the names of incoming immigrants. The only list of names came from the manifests of steamships, filled out by ship officials in Europe. In the era before visas, there was no official record of entering immigrants except those manifests.

# ? May 19, 2019 19:42

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

Absurd Alhazred posted:

With all due respect to the horrible crime done to your ancestors of misspelling their names when they were freely allowed to come here from Europe by getting on a boat, I'm sure those coming after the various exclusion and quota acts have more harrowing tales.

Content: They're banning Scabbie!
https://twitter.com/LaborStartUSA/status/1130131044055834624

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