May Current Events: John Ratcliffe the Coward (R-TX 4) has no balls

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EBB: Feb 15, 2005

https://twitter.com/infinite_scream/status/1130270287981940742?s=20

# ? May 20, 2019 01:37

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 09:40

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

This election is about America learning Lisa Simpson isn't your friend.

# ? May 20, 2019 01:41

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

America you need to step up your gently caress the poor game

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/05/ministry-for-social-development-spied-on-beneficiaries-privacy-commissioner.html

If you arent looking at nudies to make sure beneficiaries are single do you even love freedom?

# ? May 20, 2019 02:04

EBB: Feb 15, 2005

Are you kidding? I force the government to look at my cock.

# ? May 20, 2019 02:53

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

EBB posted:

Are you kidding? I force the government to look at my cock.

the perks of being able to use the VA

# ? May 20, 2019 03:08

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Brb replying to VA appt reminder texts with dick pics.

# ? May 20, 2019 03:11

LtCol J. Krusinski: May 7, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

shame on an IGA posted:

This is the lead to a pro-Biden article published today in WaPo:

There's no polishing this turd, just gotta get the word out.

Oh also lets not forget taking $200,000 to speak at a republican candidate's campaign event less than a year ago, "No sympathy for millenials", and staking out the anti-weed position just this week.

Hold the phone, Biden is anti weed?

# ? May 20, 2019 04:06

redneck nazgul: Apr 25, 2013

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Hold the phone, Biden is anti weed?

Change the schedule, decriminalize, don't legalize.

# ? May 20, 2019 04:07

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

redneck nazgul posted:

Change the schedule, decriminalize, don't legalize.

Most importantly this makes it still in a massive grey area where financial services can't be provided to weed related companies and there can be no trade between states.

The correct policy position is to regulate it just like alcohol. You can vote your state/county/city wet or dry if you want, other drugs should be exactly the same.

# ? May 20, 2019 04:13

LtCol J. Krusinski: May 7, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

It seems to me that regardless of where you stand on pot, we can all get behind ending the opioid epidemic. It�s killed more Americans than Vietnam did. In a year. Last year.

# ? May 20, 2019 05:12

BigDave: Jul 14, 2009; Taste the High Country

Remember Tony Robbins? That self-help guru your company blew 10x your annual salary on for a one-hour pep talk?

Guess who's a sexually harassing misogynistic gently caress who blames rape victims? He is! https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janebradley/tony-robbins-self-help-secrets

# ? May 20, 2019 05:14

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Shim, the federal powers that be don't give a gently caress about body counts from pharma poo poo, only the donations they get from the companies making the goddamn pills.

redneck nazgul posted:

Change the schedule, decriminalize, don't legalize.

I like where the VA recently said they won't be supporting medical marijuana and recommends veterans seek spiritual counseling instead.

By like, I mean, I want everyone at the VA responsible for that decision to receive individual, gift sized guillotines, just as a reminder of things that come with change in popular opinion.

I kinda want a 3d printer now to make miniature guillotines and put razors in them.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 05:50 on May 20, 2019

# ? May 20, 2019 05:42

Don Dongington: Sep 27, 2005; #ideasboom; College Slice

Before I, an Australian socialist, find myself inside one of the inevitable internment camps, I would like to remind the predominantly American Leftists in this thread to never take any win for granted.

Last week was basically one long victory lap, followed by our very own 2016 Election, complete with such hits as:

"Hahaha, early days just wait and see!"
"Wait what"
"Those numbers don't look right, "
"Oh my god the polls were wrong how were they this wrong"
"..."
"Oh goddamnit, Bill Shorten's Hilldogged us all."

They ran the same technocratic, morally superior campaign and it failed to penetrate the Murdoch-dominated press just the same. They tried to campaign on wealth redistribution but spent all their time failing to justify taking tax credits from the elderly and putting them into housing affordability schemes. Meanwhile the other party ran on a clumsy daggy dad ID pol platform, announced no meaningful policies, and said "Hey stick with us, change is lame" and got a significant swing towards them, in spite of 3 years of constant corruption exposure and failure to get legislation through the senate.

I guess you can tell West Virginians that the coal jobs are coming back, they'll just need to move to Queensland.

# ? May 20, 2019 06:24

ded: Oct 27, 2005; Kooler than Jesus

But did the winning side actually lose by 3 million votes?

:smug:

# ? May 20, 2019 06:27

LtCol J. Krusinski: May 7, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

Democracy is the worst system of government, except for all the others.

# ? May 20, 2019 06:29

Don Dongington: Sep 27, 2005; #ideasboom; College Slice

ded posted:

But did the winning side actually lose by 3 million votes?

Not exactly, we have proportional representation, preferential voting, and a senate that's a bit less problematic, although WA and SA still get the same 12 senators as NSW and Victoria.

The popular vote probably did go to the ALP, as it usually does, but due to the *not* gerrymandered distributions that didn't translate to seats.

Also 3 million is roughly one of the smaller states :P

# ? May 20, 2019 06:32

egyptian rat race: Jul 13, 2007; Lowtax Spine Fund 2019; Ultra Carp

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

I like where the VA recently said they won't be supporting medical marijuana and recommends veterans seek spiritual counseling instead.

Like peyote?

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

I kinda want a 3d printer now to make miniature guillotines and put razors in them.

Has someone made a "this machine kills fascists" joke with a guillotine yet? Saw a pretty funny tattoo today that got me wondering

# ? May 20, 2019 06:42

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

egyptian rat race posted:

Like peyote?

Has someone made a "this machine kills fascists" joke with a guillotine yet? Saw a pretty funny tattoo today that got me wondering

Peyote isn't easy to come by. I prefer to take counsel with peruvian torches and san pedros. Available in most big box store garden centers across the country. Buy a cactus, let it grow at least a foot, boil down some mescaline.

I don't know about the guillotine question. But I do know that if you happen across a small peyote cactus, you can graft it to another, larger cactus to marginally decrease growth time.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 07:15 on May 20, 2019

# ? May 20, 2019 07:11

AreWeDrunkYet: Jul 8, 2006; Can't post for 5 days!

Godholio posted:

Wait I thought NAFTA was good.

NAFTA wasn't good, but as usual Trump had the wrong problems with it and his approach was worse so now we have to stand up for NAFTA :shrug:

. See also NATO, the FBI, Obama foreign policy, ACA, etc.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 11:43 on May 20, 2019

# ? May 20, 2019 11:41

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

NAFTA was a net good for the majority of Americans, but shipped a lot of parts of the manufacturing supply chain to Canada and Mexico. Parts suppliers laid off a lot of workers in the rust belt, only keeping their final assembly plants.

Meanwhile, Trump is mad about Canadian timber and them not buying our hormone-infused milk.

psydude fucked around with this message at 13:22 on May 20, 2019

# ? May 20, 2019 13:15

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

it hosed over a lot of small/medium canadian businesses cause american companies came in and wiped out/bought out competition cause of their superior capital and supply chains etc.

edit: lmao they keep getting pelted with milkshakes or eggs

https://twitter.com/seddonnews/status/1130445422646956032

# ? May 20, 2019 13:25

-Anders: Feb 1, 2007; Denmark. Wait, what?

Hot Karl Marx posted:

edit: lmao they keep getting pelted with milkshakes or eggs

https://twitter.com/seddonnews/status/1130445422646956032

Good. It seems you would have to look hard to find someone more damaging to the UK at the moment. Let them eat milkshake.

# ? May 20, 2019 13:29

Hot Karl Marx: Mar 16, 2009; Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

looks like war is back on the table

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1130473916605108229

# ? May 20, 2019 15:08

BigDave: Jul 14, 2009; Taste the High Country

Hot Karl Marx posted:

looks like war is back on the table

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1130473916605108229

These idiots keep thinking that Iran=Iraq.

Iraq had a military that was being held together with duct tape and cronyism, Iran has a highly motivated and disciplined fighting force that WILL royally gently caress up any kind of invasion force.

Iraq had 20mm AA weapons, Iran has a modern guided missile network that rivals what the North Vietnamese had during Linebacker II.

The United States would need a Overload sized ratio invasion force to invade Iran successfully, which we do not have.

These dumb motherfuckers are gonna get a LOT of Americans killed.

# ? May 20, 2019 15:18

Hegel Exercises: Apr 25, 2019; Too fair to worship, too divine to love...

BigDave posted:

These idiots keep thinking that Iran=Iraq.

Iraq had a military that was being held together with duct tape and cronyism, Iran has a highly motivated and disciplined fighting force that WILL royally gently caress up any kind of invasion force.

Iraq had 20mm AA weapons, Iran has a modern guided missile network that rivals what the North Vietnamese had during Linebacker II.

The United States would need a Overload sized ratio invasion force to invade Iran successfully, which we do not have.

These dumb motherfuckers are gonna get a LOT of Americans killed.

Yeah but they�ll be fine.

# ? May 20, 2019 15:23

Hegel Exercises: Apr 25, 2019; Too fair to worship, too divine to love...

Executives for the defense industry will be fine too.

# ? May 20, 2019 15:29

Crakkerjakk: Mar 14, 2016

Linksey Graham has always been a blood gargling chickenhawk dipshit.

# ? May 20, 2019 15:36

Eugene V. Dubstep: Oct 4, 2013; Can't post for 8 years!

That's the first time I've heard the phrase "created threat streams," but I'm sure it won't be the last. RUN WAR LIKE A BUSINESS

# ? May 20, 2019 15:54

BigDave: Jul 14, 2009; Taste the High Country

Eugene V. Dubstep posted:

That's the first time I've heard the phrase "created threat streams," but I'm sure it won't be the last. RUN WAR LIKE A BUSINESS

Gives new meaning to the phrase "asset liquidation".

# ? May 20, 2019 15:58

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

BigDave posted:

These idiots keep thinking that Iran=Iraq.

Iraq had a military that was being held together with duct tape and cronyism, Iran has a highly motivated and disciplined fighting force that WILL royally gently caress up any kind of invasion force.

Iraq had 20mm AA weapons, Iran has a modern guided missile network that rivals what the North Vietnamese had during Linebacker II.

The United States would need a Overload sized ratio invasion force to invade Iran successfully, which we do not have.

These dumb motherfuckers are gonna get a LOT of Americans killed.

I keep thinking "10x Iraq" and that's approaching Vietnam level war dead. I can't even imagine how badly it would shock the public with modern day media. They wouldn't be able to hide the planes coming into Dover. People would be taking loving iPhone telephoto footage of the coffins and putting it on Twitter within minutes.

Iran has almost certainly spent decades gaming out how they will be invaded by the US, how the US will deploy naval forces in/around the straits/gulf, how best to make such an invasion cost as much as possible, etc, plus buying weapons from Russia. If the Hoot/Shkval is fully developed and in service, we may well see an aircraft carrier + supports burning/sinking in HD on primetime television.

# ? May 20, 2019 16:05

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

I'm convinced they're not talking to anyone in uniform about this.

# ? May 20, 2019 16:07

PookBear: Nov 1, 2008

I mean the reason Mattis hates Iran is because their version of green berets had a advisers teaching insurgents how to make EFPs. Iraq and Afghanistan were loving amateur hour where we could leverage our technology advantage to an insane degree.

Iran would see casualty scales we haven't seen since Vietnam where we see entire platoons get wiped out

# ? May 20, 2019 16:10

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Didn't see this posted yesterday.

Deutsche Bank Staff Saw Suspicious Activity in Trump and Kushner Accounts

quote:

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. � Anti-money-laundering specialists at Deutsche Bank recommended in 2016 and 2017 that multiple transactions involving legal entities controlled by Donald J. Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, be reported to a federal financial-crimes watchdog.

The transactions, some of which involved Mr. Trump�s now-defunct foundation, set off alerts in a computer system designed to detect illicit activity, according to five current and former bank employees. Compliance staff members who then reviewed the transactions prepared so-called suspicious activity reports that they believed should be sent to a unit of the Treasury Department that polices financial crimes.

But executives at Deutsche Bank, which has lent billions of dollars to the Trump and Kushner companies, rejected their employees� advice. The reports were never filed with the government.

The nature of the transactions was not clear. At least some of them involved money flowing back and forth with overseas entities or individuals, which bank employees considered suspicious.

Real estate developers like Mr. Trump and Mr. Kushner sometimes do large, all-cash deals, including with people outside the United States, any of which can prompt anti-money laundering reviews. The red flags raised by employees do not necessarily mean the transactions were improper. Banks sometimes opt not to file suspicious activity reports if they conclude their employees� concerns are unwarranted.

But former Deutsche Bank employees said the decision not to report the Trump and Kushner transactions reflected the bank�s generally lax approach to money laundering laws. The employees � most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve their ability to work in the industry � said it was part of a pattern of the bank�s executives rejecting valid reports to protect relationships with lucrative clients.

�You present them with everything, and you give them a recommendation, and nothing happens,� said Tammy McFadden, a former Deutsche Bank anti-money laundering specialist who reviewed some of the transactions. �It�s the D.B. way. They are prone to discounting everything.�

Deutsche Bank employees flagged concerns about activity in accounts linked to both Mr. Kushner and Mr. Trump.CreditPablo Martinez Monsivais/Associated Press
Ms. McFadden said she was terminated last year after she raised concerns about the bank�s practices. Since then, she has filed complaints with the Securities and Exchange Commission and other regulators about the bank�s anti-money-laundering enforcement.

Kerrie McHugh, a Deutsche Bank spokeswoman, said the company had intensified its efforts to combat financial crime. An effective anti-money laundering program, she said, �requires sophisticated transaction screening technology as well as a trained group of individuals who can analyze the alerts generated by that technology both thoroughly and efficiently.�

�At no time was an investigator prevented from escalating activity identified as potentially suspicious,� she added. �Furthermore, the suggestion that anyone was reassigned or fired in an effort to quash concerns relating to any client is categorically false.�

Amanda Miller, a spokeswoman for the Trump Organization, the umbrella company for the Trump family�s many business interests, said: �We have no knowledge of any �flagged� transactions with Deutsche Bank.� She said the Trump Organization currently has �no operating accounts with Deutsche Bank.� She did not respond when asked if other Trump entities had accounts.

Karen Zabarsky, a spokeswoman for Kushner Companies, said: �Any allegations regarding Deutsche Bank�s relationship with Kushner Companies which involved money laundering is completely made up and totally false. The New York Times continues to create dots that just don�t connect.�

Deutsche Bank�s decision not to report the transactions is the latest twist in Mr. Trump�s long, complicated relationship with the German bank � the only mainstream financial institution consistently willing to do business with the real estate developer.

Congressional and state authorities are investigating that relationship and have demanded the bank�s records related to the president, his family and their companies. Subpoenas from two House committees seek, among other things, documents related to any suspicious activities detected in Mr. Trump�s personal and business bank accounts since 2010, according to a copy of a subpoena included in a federal court filing.

Mr. Trump and his family sued Deutsche Bank in April, seeking to block it from complying with the congressional subpoenas. The president�s lawyers described the subpoenas as politically motivated.

Suspicious activity reports are at the heart of the federal government�s efforts to identify criminal activity like money laundering and sanctions violations. But government regulations give banks leeway in selecting which transactions to report to the Treasury Department�s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.

Lenders typically use a layered approach to detect improper activity. The first step is filtering thousands of transactions using computer programs, which send the ones considered potentially suspicious to midlevel employees for a detailed review. Those employees can decide whether to draft a suspicious activity report, but a final ruling on whether to submit it to the Treasury Department is often made by more senior managers.

In the summer of 2016, Deutsche Bank�s software flagged a series of transactions involving the real estate company of Mr. Kushner, now a senior White House adviser.

Ms. McFadden, a longtime anti-money laundering specialist in Deutsche Bank�s Jacksonville office, said she had reviewed the transactions and found that money had moved from Kushner Companies to Russian individuals. She concluded that the transactions should be reported to the government � in part because federal regulators had ordered Deutsche Bank, which had been caught laundering billions of dollars for Russians, to toughen its scrutiny of potentially illegal transactions.

Ms. McFadden drafted a suspicious activity report and compiled a small bundle of documents to back up her decision.

Typically, such a report would be reviewed by a team of anti-money laundering experts who are independent of the business line in which the transactions originated � in this case, the private-banking division � according to Ms. McFadden and two former Deutsche Bank managers.

That did not happen with this report. It went to managers in New York who were part of the private bank, which caters to the ultrawealthy. They felt Ms. McFadden�s concerns were unfounded and opted not to submit the report to the government, the employees said.

Ms. McFadden and some of her colleagues said they believed the report had been killed to maintain the private-banking division�s strong relationship with Mr. Kushner.

After Mr. Trump became president, transactions involving him and his companies were reviewed by an anti-financial crime team at the bank called the Special Investigations Unit. That team, based in Jacksonville, produced multiple suspicious activity reports involving different entities that Mr. Trump owned or controlled, according to three former Deutsche Bank employees who saw the reports in an internal computer system.

Some of those reports involved Mr. Trump�s limited liability companies. At least one was related to transactions involving the Donald J. Trump Foundation, two employees said.

Deutsche Bank ultimately chose not to file those suspicious activity reports with the Treasury Department, either, according to three former employees. They said it was unusual for the bank to reject a series of reports involving the same high-profile client.

Mr. Trump�s relationship with Deutsche Bank spans two decades. During a period when most Wall Street banks had stopped doing business with him after his repeated defaults, Deutsche Bank lent Mr. Trump and his companies a total of more than $2.5 billion. Projects financed through the private-banking division include Mr. Trump�s Doral golf resort near Miami and his transformation of Washington�s Old Post Office Building into a luxury hotel.

When he became president, he owed Deutsche Bank well over $300 million. That made the German institution Mr. Trump�s biggest creditor � and put the bank in a bind.

Senior executives worried that if they took a tough stance with Mr. Trump�s accounts � for example, by demanding payment of a delinquent loan � they could provoke the president�s wrath. On the other hand, if they didn�t do anything, the bank could be perceived as cutting a lucrative break for Mr. Trump, whose administration wields regulatory and law enforcement power over the bank.

In the past few years, United States and European authorities have punished Deutsche Bank for helping clients, including wealthy Russians, launder funds and for moving money into countries like Iran in violation of American sanctions. The bank has paid hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties and is operating under a Federal Reserve order that requires it to do more to stop illicit activities.

On two palm-tree-lined campuses in Jacksonville, Deutsche Bank has thousands of employees who vet customers and transactions. Six current and former bank employees there said the operations were deeply troubled.

Anti-money laundering workers were pressured to quickly sift through transactions to assess whether they were suspicious, the employees said. As a result, they often erred on the side of not flagging transactions.

Two former employees said that they had raised concerns about transactions involving companies linked to prominent Russians, but that managers had told them not to file suspicious activity reports. The employees were under the impression that the bank did not want to upset important clients.

Several employees said they had complained about the bank�s anti-money laundering processes to Joshua Blazer, the head of Deutsche Bank�s financial crimes investigations division in Jacksonville, and had then been criticized for having a negative attitude. One employee said she resigned last summer over concerns about the bank�s ethics.

Mr. Blazer, hired by Deutsche Bank in 2017 to strengthen the bank�s financial crime-fighting apparatus, declined to comment.

Ms. McFadden�s job at Deutsche Bank was to inspect clients and transactions in the company�s private-banking division � the unit that lent money to Mr. Trump. She joined the bank in 2008, after working for Bank of America, also in Jacksonville.

Ms. McFadden had left Bank of America in 2005, and later sued for racial discrimination and wrongful termination. According to court records, her lawsuit was settled on confidential terms the same year she joined Deutsche Bank, where she went on to win multiple performance awards.

Around the time she flagged the Kushner Companies� transactions, Ms. McFadden said, she also complained about how the bank was scrutinizing the accounts of high-profile customers, such as those in public office. Those customers � known as politically exposed persons � are regarded as at heightened risk of being involved in corruption. As a result, their accounts are subject to extra vetting.

Ms. McFadden said she had told her superiors that dozens of politically exposed clients of the private-banking division, including Mr. Trump and members of his family, were not receiving that added attention. Her superiors told her to stop raising questions, according to Ms. McFadden and the two former managers.

After taking her complaint to the human resources department, Ms. McFadden was transferred to another division. She was terminated in April 2018. The bank told her that she was not processing enough transactions.

Ms. McFadden disputed that. She said her superiors had reduced the number of transactions she was assigned to review after she voiced her concerns. She and the two former managers said they perceived her termination as an act of retaliation.

�They attempted to try to silence me,� she said. �I�m at peace because I know that I did the right thing.�

# ? May 20, 2019 16:10

Ceiling fan: Dec 26, 2003; I really like ceilings.; Dead Man’s Band

There's no shortage of generals who'll say yes to anything that come from higher up the chain of command.

# ? May 20, 2019 16:12

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Crakkerjakk posted:

Linksey Graham has always been a blood gargling chickenhawk dipshit.

Quote this if you're down for lasering this on the face of the moon for all to see

e: I meant his post, not mine.

Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 16:27 on May 20, 2019

# ? May 20, 2019 16:22

BigDave: Jul 14, 2009; Taste the High Country

FAUXTON posted:

I keep thinking "10x Iraq" and that's approaching Vietnam level war dead. I can't even imagine how badly it would shock the public with modern day media. They wouldn't be able to hide the planes coming into Dover. People would be taking loving iPhone telephoto footage of the coffins and putting it on Twitter within minutes.

Iran has almost certainly spent decades gaming out how they will be invaded by the US, how the US will deploy naval forces in/around the straits/gulf, how best to make such an invasion cost as much as possible, etc, plus buying weapons from Russia. If the Hoot/Shkval is fully developed and in service, we may well see an aircraft carrier + supports burning/sinking in HD on primetime television.

They drive the SA-300 missile system, that's about as top of the line as you can get for a air defense network. With that, and their interceptior force, they will successfully shoot down strike aircraft, and they will do so in large enough numbers to effectively negate American air superiority.

Now we have a undermanned American invasion force without air cover going up against a modern military force that enjoys artillery, CAS and armor in superior numbers, fighting on their home turf.

Flights will be landing at Dover around the clock, honor guards will have to work triple duty shifts to keep up with the bodies. Selective Service will have to reactivate the draft to replace all of the casualties.

Forget Iraq, Iran is gonna be our Vietnam.

# ? May 20, 2019 16:28

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

A straight up one-on-one with Iran would be an astounding clus-trastro-gently caress of hideous proportions.

It won't be straight up one-on-one. If we pop this one off the rest of the world is going to tell us to go gently caress ourselves with a rusty cactus, and rightfully so.

# ? May 20, 2019 16:40

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

BigDave posted:

They drive the SA-300 missile system, that's about as top of the line as you can get for a air defense network. With that, and their interceptior force, they will successfully shoot down strike aircraft, and they will do so in large enough numbers to effectively negate American air superiority.

They'll slow our ability to gain air superiority, and we'll get a bloody nose in the air like we haven't since early in the Vietnam War. Even if our performance isn't particularly good (and I very much expect the USAF/USN would outperform their Iranian counterparts), we'd win the war of attrition in the air.

# ? May 20, 2019 16:45

Crakkerjakk: Mar 14, 2016

Ceiling fan posted:

There's no shortage of generals who'll say yes to anything that come from higher up the chain of command.

And the ones who won't will resign/be fired until the ones that will are in charge.

# ? May 20, 2019 16:48

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BigDave: Jul 14, 2009; Taste the High Country

Godholio posted:

They'll slow our ability to gain air superiority, and we'll get a bloody nose in the air like we haven't since early in the Vietnam War. Even if our performance isn't particularly good (and I very much expect the USAF/USN would outperform their Iranian counterparts), we'd win the war of attrition in the air.

Oh for sure, and they wouldn't be able to repel the invasion, but it's not gonna be a Day 1 victory by any means.

We're gonna see a F/A-18 shootdown live on CNN in 4k.

# ? May 20, 2019 16:53

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