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Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Ardennes posted:

Basically, his pivot is "let's all be friends."

What's Ukrainian for "друзья, давайте жить дружно"?

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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet


This is about the 737 Max 8, which is basically a completely different plane than the other variants of 737. Boeing basically pulled the aerospace version of knocking down most of your house but leaving one original wall so it's technically a remodel instead of a new house.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Paladinus posted:

In this particular case, he 'stole' that Red Army veteran from Poroshenko. He's famous for shaking hands with another UPA member in Poroshenko's photo ops. Zelenskyi's rhetoric in the past several weeks was definitely milder than that of Poroshenko, but overall he seems to want to continue the same general line on Ukrainisation, Donbasss war, relationship with Russia, WWII history, and other issues, on which many of his supporters probably expected him to take a slightly different stance. Some theorise that he wants to get on the good side of Rada members to have an early inauguration (and then have snap Rada elections), and he'll reveal his real stance after that, but he's probably just fine with ideological status quo as it is. On the other hand, it's also worth noting that Proshenko himself started his presidency with a very similar reconciliatory platform, but drastically changed some of his opinions later. Interestingly, Kolomoyskyi, who is said to be the real power behind Zelenskyi, has recently stated in an interview that the war in Eastern Ukraine could actually be considered a civil war, where one of the sides is aided by a foreign state. This goes very much against the official narrative of pure Russian aggression (without any official declaration of war, however). Don't really know what to make of that, but there are some fancy 5D chess theories floating around about who's controlling whom now, and from what country.

Zelenskii issue is that at least during the campaign he had ran on a campaign of at least mild normalization and a big chunk of his support is from that bloc of voters. We will see if he actually returns to the previous status quo. Likewise, I expect rhetoric from the Kremlin to shift in response to whatever he chooses.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

https://www.vrk.lt/2019-prezidento/rezultatai?srcUrl=/rinkimai/904/1/1546/rezultatai/lt/rezultataiPreRezultatai.html



HUGE PUBES A PLUS fucked around with this message at 19:31 on May 12, 2019

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

https://twitter.com/VahurKoorits/status/1128239897192673280
It seems Le Pen is touring EE to gain some neo-nazi allies

jonnypeh
Nov 5, 2006
Meanwhile, accusations spread by anonymous posters in newspaper comments sections seem to be taken seriously by at least several people ... Such as our minister of interior. If this goes anywhere, I would think that he tries to pin it on those parties before going reichstag on them.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-14/estonian-minister-blames-past-coalitions-for-dirty-money-scandal

He also believes in conspiracy theories that he then talks about in their own newspapers or radio shows. Most recently how deep state, corrupt courts and mainstream media are all in cahoots, ruling the country.



Btw, it seems that once Le Pen found out about the connotations of that sign, she had that photo "removed". Though the words 'internet' and 'removed' do not go together because once it's out there it's not going away.

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

madeintaipei posted:

Get out of my head.

I don't know where else to ask this, so here goes:
I'm looking for a book by an Central Asian (Kyrgyz?) poet named Murat Akh-something, wherein he details a trip he took through Central Asia immediately before the dissolution of the USSR. He touches on Nagorno-Karabakh, so past '88. One thing I think I remember is him being on a long-distance trail ride where he figures out the porter is a fellow countryman, he tries this out by calling him [name]-aka. The man recognized this and invited him for pilaf and tea at every stop. Sound familiar to anyone? I'd like to buy the book.

This has reminded me to re-read Kapuściński's Imperium, thanks.

Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




Xerxes17 posted:

I'd say the big problem is that the Jet is a Sukhoi, and as I recall, the plane that crashed horribly in the winder was of the same type. As long as it's a Boeing plane you should be okay.

Eroflot is the only company who bought superjets in any significant numbers, and no I am not thrilled about say they rplacing the craft from aerobus to sukhoi at the last minute. And to the goon who said lol why not take the train from DME and not bother with traffic - gently caress you and gently caress your city. It doesn't get any better if you take a car from rail station.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Sekenr posted:

Eroflot is the only company who bought superjets in any significant numbers, and no I am not thrilled about say they rplacing the craft from aerobus to sukhoi at the last minute. And to the goon who said lol why not take the train from DME and not bother with traffic - gently caress you and gently caress your city. It doesn't get any better if you take a car from rail station.

Eroflot. gently caress you, gently caress your city, and gently caress the jet, too.
Eroflot, where the seats recline. All. The. Way. Down.
Eroflot; coffee, tea, or go gently caress yourself (or each other)?
Eroflot: Tired of paying full price for Viagra? Only 10 doe-lars.
Erofrot: Wide aisles got you down? We can help!

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Any thoughts on the new Ukrainian President?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Any thoughts on the new Ukrainian President?
Dismissing the entire Parliament first thing after the getting elected does not sound very promising, even if it was to get rid of Poroshenko loyalists.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 13:05 on May 20, 2019

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Any thoughts on the new Ukrainian President?

He is a cipher for Kolomoisky and his circle of moneybags so not much will change and the overall west-aligned, anti-Russia course will continue. At the same time he aims to avoid dumb show-offish nationalistic things that Poroshenko pushed (covering the obvious and real problems), like the church independence and war populism.

fatherboxx fucked around with this message at 13:11 on May 20, 2019

Shy
Mar 20, 2010

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Any thoughts on the new Ukrainian President?

He’s cute, and funny!

Shy
Mar 20, 2010

anilEhilated posted:

Dismissing the entire Parliament first thing after the getting elected does not sound very promising, even if it was to get rid of Poroshenko loyalists.

Does that seem controversial? I thought everyone was expecting it.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Shy posted:

Does that seem controversial? I thought everyone was expecting it.
Well, the elections were scheduled to happen in about three months anyway and I read something along the lines that it's not entirely certain whether he had power to do it, because shortly before, government lost majority and the ruling party had 30 days to find new coalition during which time president shouldn't have power to dissolve the parliament. At least according to one interpretation of constitution.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Reactions to Zelenskyi's speech are so far positive even among people who are cautious of his connections to Kolomoyskyi. There is hope that while Kolomoyskyi will persue his interests, they don't really go against the majority of Zelenskyi's populist promises, like electoral reforms, a more level-headed approach to Ukrainisation, removal of parliamentary immunity, peace in Donbass, etc. All this stuff is no skin off Kolomoyskyi's back, who's primarily concerned with taking back his bank. Plus he really hates Poroshenko. Of course, it's early to say anything on day one.

Shy posted:

Does that seem controversial? I thought everyone was expecting it.

It's a super popular step. Even Poroshenko's party issued a statement that they are ready for snap elections. In a way it's better for Poroshenko to get it done with quick, while he still has some remnants of support and infrastructure left from presidential elections. Another thing to remember here is that Poroshenko is implicated in multiple corruption schemes, and Zelenskyi explicitly mentioned removing Poroshenko's Prosecutor General Lutsenko, which is basically threatening Poroshenko with real jail time (in line with what Zelenskyi said during debates). Becoming a member of rada as soon as possible might be helpful for Poroshenko if things go South.

Shy
Mar 20, 2010

5 months, the original date was October 27

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Paladinus posted:

. Another thing to remember here is that Poroshenko is implicated in multiple corruption schemes, and Zelenskyi explicitly mentioned removing Poroshenko's Prosecutor General Lutsenko, which is basically threatening Poroshenko with real jail time (in line with what Zelenskyi said during debates). Becoming a member of rada as soon as possible might be helpful for Poroshenko if things go South.

I won't read toooo much into removing Lutsenko given he is a presidential appointee, and it's perfectly normal to replace those when the president changes.

Similarly, trying to time elections to one's advantage is a perfectly ordinary thing in a parliamentary system where it's possible.
(And hey, that might also get Avakov replaced!)

P.S. still Loving the Bulava

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Dwesa posted:

Well, the elections were scheduled to happen in about three months anyway and I read something along the lines that it's not entirely certain whether he had power to do it, because shortly before, government lost majority and the ruling party had 30 days to find new coalition during which time president shouldn't have power to dissolve the parliament. At least according to one interpretation of constitution.

They were supposed to be in late October - early November, plus current rada members would stay in power for some more time after elections while new rada members are being officially registered. Snap elections would mean only two months left for them in total, as Zelenskyi noted today.

As for the coalition maneuvers, that's just National Front trying to go out with a bang. They have close to no chance to get elected next time, to the point where they already plan to completely rebrand themselves. The reality is that the coalition de facto ceased to exist in 2016, when Batskivshchina left, and it's very easy to prove with simple maths. But even that doesn't really matter. Should the president initiate the procedure, not even an open court case can legally postpone it due to a quirk in Ukrainian legal system.

Shy
Mar 20, 2010

Paladinus posted:

All this stuff is no skin off Kolomoyskyi's back, who's primarily concerned with taking back his bank.

You think that's possible?

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Shy posted:

You think that's possible?

He's got at least one local court to side with him. So maybe? But if that fails, I'm sure there are plans B to Z of how he can make money off Zelenskyi's presidency.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Paladinus posted:

He's got at least one local court to side with him. So maybe? But if that fails, I'm sure there are plans B to Z of how he can make money off Zelenskyi's presidency.

I think the national Bank pretty much said that if he wants the bank back they are taking the bailout back.... I am sure everyone but Kolomoisky would be happy if he were to make it solvent out of his pocket.

(Also apparently he owns steel plants in the US, so he may be making money off *Trump* presidency).

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

OddObserver posted:

I think the national Bank pretty much said that if he wants the bank back they are taking the bailout back.... I am sure everyone but Kolomoisky would be happy if he were to make it solvent out of his pocket.

(Also apparently he owns steel plants in the US, so he may be making money off *Trump* presidency).
I was under impression that steel industry is not doing so hot these days, no matter the president

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
the ex-marine accused of espionage

https://twitter.com/sarahrainsford/status/1131866111115448320

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




In 57 minutes we will be able to learn if Latvia has shattered it's record. Of 30% EP election turnover, in the negative direction.

When I went to my polling station earlier today, voters were outnumbered by the station's staff like 8:1.

Also if it's any consolation to Estonia, our politics have devolved into circus too (well, worse than usual). Not "nazis on a sunny stroll" tier of circus though.

E: Woo, 32% turnout.

cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 19:33 on May 25, 2019

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
So what can you guys tell us about Gitanes Nausea? Other than he should stop smoking if it makes him sick.

TheCoach
Mar 11, 2014
Šimonytė and Nausėda are both unexciting status quo candidates.
Šimonytė was hyped up by our terminally online people and the meltdowns are already happening. I've seen a guy complain his grandma called him and made fun of him about agitating for Šimonytė.
I've also seen these same people condemn every non-š voter to be a poor, a zombie and a Kremlin agent. Centrists never learn or so it seems. At least we didn't elect fascists...

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1132935412379529216

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/05/30/dr-m-says-malaysia-wants-evidence-to-show-russia-shot-down-flight-mh17/1757945

Brown Moses, are you ashamed of besmirching the 'highly disciplined' Russian soldiers now?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

He also says 9/11 was staged, they should give him his own show on Russia Today.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/status/1134802533820616705

:allears:

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008
Good interview with Mark Galeotti about whether Putin has a geopolitical "master plan" (tl;dr he doesn't, no one is a chess master manipulator, its pretty opportunistic): https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/podcast/27915/does-russia-s-putin-really-have-a-master-plan

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Pembroke Fuse posted:

Good interview with Mark Galeotti about whether Putin has a geopolitical "master plan" (tl;dr he doesn't, no one is a chess master manipulator, its pretty opportunistic): https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/podcast/27915/does-russia-s-putin-really-have-a-master-plan

We just interview Mark Galeotti for our upcoming podcast series on MH17, he gave a really great interview, we'll probably release as a separate thing as we'll only use a small part of it for the series.

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
Of course Putin isn't a geopolitical chess master. If he were, Garry Kasporov's opposition would have hurt him a lot more!

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

nrook posted:

Of course Putin isn't a geopolitical chess master. If he were, Garry Kasporov's opposition would have hurt him a lot more!

heh... this is good.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Ivan Golunov, the Meduza journalists arrested on obviously trumped up drug charges, has been released:

quote:

Ivan Golunov: Russian police drop charges against journalist

Russian police have dropped all charges of drug dealing against Ivan Golunov, an investigative reporter whose arrest caused a major public outcry.

Vladimir Kolokoltsev, the interior minister, said the decision had been taken because of a lack of evidence. Police said he would be released from house arrest later on Tuesday. Golunov, 36, had faced up to 20 years in prison in what was widely seen as a bid to silence his hard-hitting reports on corruption.

The unexpected move came after an unprecedented display of support from Russian journalists and cultural figures. The move came as thousands were due to march in Moscow in his support of the journalist.

Valentina Matviyenko, the speaker of the Russian parliament’s upper house and a longtime ally of Vladimir Putin, became the most influential figure so far to defend the journalist on Tuesday.

“This a very bad story,” he said. “There are many questions that the public must receive clear and intelligible answers to. This is either unprofessionalism, recklessness or a provocation.”

Matviyenko, who is nominally the third most powerful politician in Russia, said the case had been taken under the personal control of Yury Chaika, the prosecutor general.

The Kremlin admitted on Monday that mistakes had possibly been made in the handling of the case.

Golunov, who works for the Latvia-based Meduza news website, was beaten by police and kept in custody for 12 hours after being detained in central Moscow on 6 June, his lawyer, Sergei Badamshin said.

The police’s case against Golunov appeared flimsy. Badamshin said forensic tests had not detected the journalist’s fingerprints on the bags of drugs purportedly seized from his home. Previous tests failed to reveal traces of drugs in either the journalist’s urine or on his fingers.

Shortly after his arrest, police published photographs that they said showed a drug lab at his rented flat. The images were swiftly deleted from the interior ministry’s website after a police spokesman admitted they had been taken at a different location and bore no relation to the charges against the journalist.

Police described the incident as “a small mix-up”. Human rights groups said police in Russia often plant drugs on suspects.

Golunov’s treatment was condemned by figures across a wide spectrum of Russian society, including Kremlin-loyal media. Dozens of journalists from state news agencies signed an open letter calling for the charges against him to be dismissed. Presenters on Channel One, state media’s flagship channel, also demanded a transparent investigation into the case.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin spokesman, denied media reports that the government was seeking to settle the Golunov case before Putin’s annual question-and-answer show with the public on 20 June.

The Russian investigative media outlet Project cited unnamed Kremlin officials on Monday as saying the presidential administration wanted police to drop charges against Golunov because they were worried Putin would face awkward questions during the live call-in show.

Sounds like the police pissed off a lot of people, not just his supporters:

https://twitter.com/AlexNicest/status/1138458186602680320

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jun 11, 2019

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
We normally don't get to hear about the blood test results or forensics unless that evidence is supporting the government accusations. This frame job was botched from the top down.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Great and surprising news, Moscow Police has not been this owned since forever.

All it took was an unprecedented display of solidarity across non-Kremlin media and all three major business newspapers dedicating Monday front page to Ivan.

The execution from the police was incredibly sloppy, the public pressure was real, so whoever in power had a beef with the subject of Golunov's investigation (FSB people with a share in funeral business) pulled strings to end this.

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Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Part of it is that since the pension reforms, discontent has been rapidly growing and Golunov case has been a lighting rod for previously apolitical people.

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