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mortons stork posted:i was gonna vote for the green party but then it turns out they were poo poo at vetting candidates/the party leader actually was a cryptofascist which is why he rejected the proposal to run as a united left list, so it came out that some of the greens candidates were linked to an 'ecofascist' (cant make this poo poo up) group founded by a close friend of the founder of the current largest neofascist party in italy so welp Here in france the greens are libs who want up to buddy up with macron
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Kind of same with the greenleft here. Last elections the lib government of rutte was forming a coalition, and the first choice was Christian democrats, another liberal party, and the greenleft, but it didn't work out and then they replaced greenleft with another liberal party. So I guess that it is wrong to say they buddy up to Rutte, since it was proven that they are incompatible. Elections are tomorrow and I still don't know which party I prefer, I might just write Brexit in giant letters on the ballot to invalidate it
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i convinced my mom to vote for the communist party
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do they also have the 'communists eat children meme' in france? or is that particular thing just italy
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mortons stork posted:do they also have the 'communists eat children meme' in france? or is that particular thing just italy don't think so, that's a new one for me
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Truga posted:euro election debates own lmao
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mortons stork posted:do they also have the 'communists eat children meme' in france? or is that particular thing just italy We have that in Portugal, it was part of the Estado Novo anti-communist propaganda.
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Kurtofan posted:don't think so, that's a new one for me that communist propaganda poster was just perfect material to feed that idiot meme, thats why i was asking. its a thing that was initially born during the fascist republic of salò near the end of the war and then popularized by our centre right christian democrat party which ruled the country for 40 years after wwii. mortons stork has issued a correction as of 08:32 on May 23, 2019 |
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mortons stork posted:that communist propaganda poster was just perfect material to feed that idiot meme, thats why i was asking. its a thing popularized by our centre right christian democrat party which ruled the country for 40 years after wwii. You can still bring back the guillotines. Only this time don't steal the Dutch flag again tia
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Maximo Roboto posted:interesting thread about Denmark’s two far right parties i know the lesson of the modern world is "things can always get worse" but i'm still amazed at how you can get worse than the loving People's Party
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You see, people who aren't outright nazis are actually the real nazis
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May 23, 2019 17:21
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This was a stupid thing to do, Mark https://twitter.com/Diplo_JV/status/1131517448899956737?s=19
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1131636404885364736 hey wow this went better than I expected Labor (PvdA) which was pretty much stomped into non-existence in the last couple of elections came out winning, then Markie Mark and the Libs, then the Christian democrats, then forum (the bad guys), then the greens. PVV (Geert WIlder's party) is at a record low apparently, because all the voters moved on to support Forum. D66 (libs) used to be on top but they have been plagued by scandals and lost a lot. The socialists lost a bunch, but they got a new party leader recently who has many lovely ideas I have no loving clue why labor did so well.
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twoday posted:I have no loving clue why labor did so well.
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Zedd posted:SP went fully into their weird national(ism) angle, GreenLeft aren't exactly amazing if you are a real leftist and likely some residue annoyance at stuff like lenteakkoord and poo poo i guess. Leaves little options. yes, agreed with the first part of this, but I did not even consider PvdA. They nearly completely collapsed, and then didn't change their annoying leadership, and just completely ripped off the platform of Groenlinks. There was a delay in releasing the quiz that tells you which party you should support because they had identical answers on all 60 questions. They haven't been in the news much or really doing anything. get that OUT of my face posted:the fact that Forum is now the leading voice of the Dutch far right still sucks. Baudet gives me a real Sideshow Bob vibe yes, but as of exit polls yesterday they were projected to be the biggest party, maybe that debate really did help dissuade people. I think that seeing him speak for longer than 30 seconds has a very different effect. I'm watching it now, it sucks rear end
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Why do left wing parties think they have any chance of gaining on the nationalist front LFI is doing the same bullshit here and it sucks. Because of that they ended up giving platforms to nazis during the yellow vest crisis and during the campaign one of their elected officials left for the FN. This is why i'm going the PCF road too, they're running an unashamedly left wing campaign, not liberal, not nationalist. Mélenchon actually wants to create a new group in the europarliament, called "Now the people" or something.. That sounds dumb as hell imo
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Its a shame because I think the LFI candidate Manon Aubry is quite good otherwise.
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Lmao at Spain, Franco's ghost or new populism - por que no los dos?Kurtofan posted:Why do left wing parties think they have any chance of gaining on the nationalist front I read an interview with a dude who argued against the LFI-Chantal Mouffe "left populism" because of its antagonistic nature. I'm not up enough on how Mélenchon ran his presidential campaign but it reads plausible especially with LFI turning nativist.
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Zedd posted:SP went fully into their weird national(ism) angle, GreenLeft aren't exactly amazing if you are a real leftist and likely some residue annoyance at stuff like lenteakkoord and poo poo i guess. Leaves little options. unfortunately GreenLeft was the only option if you want a party that both sees climate change as a serious threat and recognizes that a strong Europe is the only way to have any chance to do anything about it. SP and PvdD are both looking to nations first for solutions because of “our sovereignty”.
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9-Volt Assault posted:unfortunately GreenLeft was the only option if you want a party that both sees climate change as a serious threat and recognizes that a strong Europe is the only way to have any chance to do anything about it. SP and PvdD are both looking to nations first for solutions because of “our sovereignty”. Agreed. Now only if there were a leftist, green, pro-europe and pro-nuclear party.
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Dijsselbloem, yeah.
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It is a terrible bind. On the one hand, me too understand that continent-level action is critical to prepare against what 's coming, climate wise. But it's obvious the EU is so captured it isnt even funny.
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jfc nsfw that poo poo
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ashamed to say that the top fn candidate for the european elections is from my department (93) and also is italian
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Went out to vote with family on my old high school, it was more empty when I went there today than on other years. I mean you could partly blame the end of a soccer league between two of the major teams + a really warm sunday more befitting of a beach trip than civic duty, but also because Portugal is right on the sweet spot of there being not much drive to engage stuff politically. I would be honestly surprised if one of those liberal parties I poked at on this thread would get more than a representative, maybe two. Apparently only a third knew what the elections were even for, much less even name a candidate they were going to vote for! Still, in terms of numbers so far more people are voting.
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Kurtofan posted:ashamed to say that the top fn candidate for the european elections is from my department (93) and also is italian doesnt seem very french nationalist to vote for someone from italy
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