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sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021

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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

I thought socialism was supposed to bring us to 32-5, not 996.

uncop
Oct 23, 2010
Socialism is supposed to bring us to a state where the division between work and leisure time is an archaic notion because labor has become a thing people just do all the time the same way they eat and sleep. Imperial core "socialists" should learn from Jack Ma.

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
when is jack ma getting disappeared anyway

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

the working hours absolutely suck, are illegal and should be changed. it is an industry-wide thing so it becomes a "well if everybody ELSE is doing it" phenomenon where nobody takes responsibility and thereby nobody changes it. which is why the state should get involved

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
Why?

If tech companies under socialism are all worker ran and the workers want to work more (as oppose to be forced to work more by capitalists) and not be subjected to wage slavery while at it, I don't see why intervention is required

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
I have heard stories of Huawei employees overworked themselves to death; I also have heard stories of older workers being forced to quit. This was around 2 years ago, before Huawei actually have competitive consumer products and became orange turd's high profile target.

That's my Huawei anecdote.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Typo posted:

Why?

If tech companies under socialism are all worker ran and the workers want to work more (as oppose to be forced to work more by capitalists) and not be subjected to wage slavery while at it, I don't see why intervention is required

Market socialism, especially when it exists as an island within Capitalism, is still subject to the malign influence of Capitalist value and thus can become a race to the bottom as different firms seek to outcompete one another. Regulations help set a minimum standard of worker protection.

coathat
May 21, 2007

The answer is Peoples War

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

R. Guyovich posted:

the working hours absolutely suck, are illegal and should be changed. it is an industry-wide thing so it becomes a "well if everybody ELSE is doing it" phenomenon where nobody takes responsibility and thereby nobody changes it. which is why the state should get involved

Yeah, meanwhile one of my cousins would clock in at his state owned mining company and then goof off the rest of the day at home or somewhere else. That's like saying Wall Street works some analysts to death therefore all American workers are laboring under sweatshop conditions.

dream9!bed!!
Jan 9, 2019

by VideoGames

CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

Yeah, meanwhile one of my cousins would clock in at his state owned mining company and then goof off the rest of the day at home or somewhere else. That's like saying Wall Street works some analysts to death therefore all American workers are laboring under sweatshop conditions.

What? You're arguing wall street is a sweatshop?

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
welcome to C-SPAM, enjoy your stay

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

Yeah, meanwhile one of my cousins would clock in at his state owned mining company and then goof off the rest of the day at home or somewhere else. That's like saying Wall Street works some analysts to death therefore all American workers are laboring under sweatshop conditions.

right, the state companies rule. this is endemic to tech not the entire economy.

dream9!bed!!
Jan 9, 2019

by VideoGames
Hot take: America sucks, and so does China

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

R. Guyovich posted:

the working hours absolutely suck, are illegal and should be changed. it is an industry-wide thing so it becomes a "well if everybody ELSE is doing it" phenomenon where nobody takes responsibility and thereby nobody changes it. which is why the state should get involved

I got to admit, this is a bit of a pivotal point, as while we bicker and laugh over the style of communism recently practice in China, the state's response to both Jack Ma and the conditions as they stand will really demonstrate what the party and its leadership desires as a whole.

bit of a platitude, I have to admit, but if the goal truly is full communism, then this needs to be addressed.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Typo posted:

Correct, hence why many Huawei workers voluntarily choose stakhanovites work ethic and do not even ask for overtime pay. Since obviously the surplus value from labor they put in is fully appropriated by the workers themselves through their ownership in the company.

China: How the 5G was Tempered

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/redniangzijun/status/1131250556566167557?s=21

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
this Lupin reboot sucks

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

this seems like a pretty dishonest reading of what she said to me?

edit: I mean she might be bad idk anything about her but what she said here seems fine?

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah

gradenko_2000 posted:

this Lupin reboot sucks

lol

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

this Lupin reboot sucks

not nearly horny enough

uncop
Oct 23, 2010

Typo posted:

Why?

If tech companies under socialism are all worker ran and the workers want to work more (as oppose to be forced to work more by capitalists) and not be subjected to wage slavery while at it, I don't see why intervention is required

Socialism in China is still young and people are unadjusted to its rapid developments. That's why they need to be protected from overexerting themselves by requiring workplaces to remind everyone to reserve time for adequate sleep every day and rest for a day every week. While the 996 model itself is a brake on achieving truly communist labor, it reveals the resoluteness of the Chinese people's march toward communism by demonstrating that this kind of health intervention has become necessary. Those who prefer less rest can take a second job, which is a positive consequence because now they have to get out of their comfort zone and develop new skills, bringing them closer to the new communist man that "hunts in the morning, fishes in the afternoon, rears cattle in the evening, criticises after dinner" etc.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

this Lupin reboot sucks

The Woman Called Fujiko Mine owns

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-05-23/mystery-ozone-depleting-gas-tracked-to-china/11137546

quote:

According to a study published today in Nature, emissions from eastern China of the chlorofluorocarbon CFC-11 have been increasing by 7,000 tonnes a year since 2013.

The findings are based on air monitoring stations in South Korea and Japan, which were able to pick up tell-tale plumes of the gas as they wafted across the sea from China.

CFC-11 is used in polyurethane foams that insulate buildings and refrigerators, but its production was supposed to have been phased out by 2010 under the Montreal Protocol. The gas also contributes to global warming.

But research published in May last year using NOAA's network of air monitoring stations found evidence someone in the world was producing and emitting thousands of tonnes of CFC-11 into the atmosphere.

Turns out China has been breaking the Montreal protocol for a while.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
My cousin posted a story about having a government run fire safety session and getting talking to one of the people who is manchu who has got really into the history of it in his spare time such that he feels he is monitored because he speaks the language and wears the clothing

Anyway this was in the replies

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


One of the many WTF things about Chinese history is that over the years the Manchus were so assimilated into the dominant Han culture - despite ruling China for like 300 years and into the 20th century - that there's like a dozen native Manchu speakers in the world today.

Apparently there's also a massive backlog of Qing dynasty era imperial court documents that are untranslated simply because there's so few scholars fluent in Manchu. Imagine if there were official American/British/whatever government documents from the 1800s written in a language that literally no one except a handful of experts could even read.

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
Yeah the Manchus are 99.999% assimilated. They are also mostly "old Beijing" living inside 1st ring 2nd ring so you can argue they made out much better than anybody else. Same thing can't be said about the minorities who got pushed by the hans to the poor mountain range in Yunnan or whatever.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
The group this guy is part of are trying to resurrect a lot of it. He apparently had the traditional hairstyle as well but decided a ponytail since it stuck out less

tino posted:

Yeah the Manchus are 99.999% assimilated. They are also mostly "old Beijing" living inside 1st ring 2nd ring so you can argue they made out much better than anybody else. Same thing can't be said about the minorities who got pushed by the hans to the poor mountain range in Yunnan or whatever.


he said the guy had such a strong beijing accent he struggled to understand him when giving instructions

Jose has issued a correction as of 14:34 on May 23, 2019

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
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US Senate bill proposes sanctions for involvement in ‘illegal’ activities in South and East China seas

quote:

US senators from both political parties will reintroduce legislation on Thursday committing the government to punish Chinese individuals and entities involved in what they call Beijing’s “illegal and dangerous” activities in the South and East China seas.

If it becomes law, the “South China Sea and East China Sea Sanctions Act” would require the government to seize US-based financial assets and revoke or deny US visas of anyone engaged in “actions or policies that threaten the peace, security or stability” of areas in the South China Sea that are contested by one or more members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean).

“This bipartisan bill strengthens efforts by the US and our allies to counter Beijing’s illegal and dangerous militarisation of disputed territory that it has seized in the South China Sea,” Senator Marco Rubio, a Republican who is leading the legislation with Democratic Senator Benjamin Cardin, told the South China Morning Post.

what if Magnitsky Act, but for the yellow peril???

dream9!bed!!
Jan 9, 2019

by VideoGames
Not being ok with Chinese imperialism means you're a racist

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
yeah let's trust the USA with Donald Trump's at the helm instead lol

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
US is going to deny visa and freeze bank accounts of a bunch of secret military men who built islands in South China Sea? Is there even one non-military asset US can target?

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007



If you want to see the clusterfuck that is the South China Sea and why Vietnam doesn't get along with China.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

sincx posted:

Winnie the Cuck

is this a thing

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

If they do that they won't be able to game the money market to their advantage, the value of the RMB would skyrocket (which is bad because they're an export nation).

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

the alt right has moved on to "soy boy" as their preferred way of calling people "human being" without actually saying the word, so using "cuck" as a funny insult is fair game again

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

sincx posted:

There's one thing that China can do that would both severely hamper the effects of US sanctions and dramatically boost its own international image:

Abolish capital controls and make the RMB fully convertible. This will allow China and its partners to by pass the existing, US-controlled financial system and do an end-run around much of the US sanctions regime.

But Winnie the Cuck and his minions are way too scared to do it, fearing uncontrolled capital in/outflows. But if Xi really wants China to lead even regionally, he has to let the RMB go free.

yeah, neoliberalism always works out well in developing nations lol

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

get that OUT of my face posted:

the alt right has moved on to "soy boy" as their preferred way of calling people "human being" without actually saying the word, so using "cuck" as a funny insult is fair game again

good to know

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sincx
Jul 13, 2012

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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Mar 23, 2021

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