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I don't know if Abaddon ever said it outright, but the seven deadly sins bit has always been just a loose aesthetic; their big character themes are far more around the word of Royalty. Mottom and Mammon were both chained by the words of Glory and Tower respectively; that was the whole thing keeping them back. No doubt the others are similar. Solomon David's word is Diamond, but I don't know if there's been any discourse on what that actually means. I would guess it's some kind of flawlessness, and his weakness would be his inability to ever take a loss - look at all the earlier discussion about the fight against him being very much unfair even before power levels come into it. Which, to be fair, is pretty much pride.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:If anything, she seems to have freed Mammon from greed and Mottom from gluttony, at least for now. Allison unintentionally helps the demiurges overcome their flaws, letting them become Royal at which point they come to a Fundamental Realization and just sort of wander off into the distance forever
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May 23, 2019 00:07
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a diamond is nearly unscratchable, and shattered by a simple sharp force from the wrong angle
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Who What Now posted:Say what you want about Its relative. WELL DONE YOURE NOT A....*checks notes*.....complete fuckup?????? Tenebrais posted:I don't know if Abaddon ever said it outright, but the seven deadly sins bit has always been just a loose aesthetic; their big character themes are far more around the word of Royalty. Mottom and Mammon were both chained by the words of Glory and Tower respectively; that was the whole thing keeping them back. No doubt the others are similar. Abaddon may be going for a two-sides-of-the-same-coin type of allegory, that you need to be a selfish prick to be capital R royalty. Especially considering that paragons of virtue in the lore stories rarely go unpunished for their purity.
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May 23, 2019 00:08
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Tenebrais posted:I don't know if Abaddon ever said it outright, but the seven deadly sins bit has always been just a loose aesthetic; https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/709653396857327616
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May 23, 2019 00:16
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Wasn't Zaid's scene with Solomon before the training montage? It's been a whole year and who knows what Solomon's had him doing, probably not just sat around the palace twirling his thumbs, I bet he's bee taught poo poo.
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May 23, 2019 00:32
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he's super buff now, and that's it no martial arts bullshit, he's just very firm
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May 23, 2019 00:40
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I'd be surprised. The hostage given a life of luxury but not allowed to leave or do anything is pretty classic. Tenebrais posted:Solomon David's word is Diamond, but I don't know if there's been any discourse on what that actually means. I would guess it's some kind of flawlessness, and his weakness would be his inability to ever take a loss - look at all the earlier discussion about the fight against him being very much unfair even before power levels come into it. Which, to be fair, is pretty much pride.
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May 23, 2019 00:43
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no he's like several beefcakes glued together, just an upturned mound of muscle without the faintest idea what to do with it all
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May 23, 2019 00:48
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Every other guy in Solomon's empire is swole as gently caress.
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Tenebrais posted:I don't know if Abaddon ever said it outright, but the seven deadly sins bit has always been just a loose aesthetic; their big character themes are far more around the word of Royalty. Mottom and Mammon were both chained by the words of Glory and Tower respectively; that was the whole thing keeping them back. No doubt the others are similar. Diamonds are the hardest but very brittle and prone to shattering
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May 23, 2019 01:05
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Incubus has fire right? Always gotta feed the flames, gotta run to stay in place. Jagganoth I think has mind, and look how he's been locked into a path by thinking about poo poo so much
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May 23, 2019 01:07
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Incubus has fire right? Always gotta feed the flames, gotta run to stay in place. Jagganoth is one of the great conservative thinkers of his time.
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May 23, 2019 01:20
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Demiurge4 posted:Jagganoth is one of the great conservative thinkers of his time. Damning with faint praise
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May 23, 2019 01:24
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Everyone trying to rank Dems on qabbalistic power is sleeping on Williamson. I mean she's one of 400 candidates but she's also One.
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May 23, 2019 01:31
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Its relative. here lies Solomon David I suppose he hosed up somewhat less than he could have
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Paramemetic posted:Everyone trying to rank Dems on qabbalistic power is sleeping on Williamson. Williamson impresses me more as a psionicist Jag's very forward thinking though. All the way to the end you could say
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May 23, 2019 01:51
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Its relative. Aesma is fairly pure in her furious stupidity.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Diamonds are the hardest but very brittle and prone to shattering Also, they can and do burn (Being no more than neatly ordered carbon, if you apply pure oxygen and a blowtorch, they burn directly into CO2)
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May 23, 2019 03:35
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Diamond is also, uh, useless outside of specific applications. It's reject rock that's all shiny and not as rare as one thinks; the rarity and fanciness and classiness are enforced by people having a vested image in a specific sign and signifier. Which, well, fits his dramatic man-pain "daddy's burden" god tyrant rear end.
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May 23, 2019 03:40
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allison's gonna say "who do you think you are, my dad"
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Hostile V posted:Diamond is also, uh, useless outside of specific applications. It's reject rock that's all shiny and not as rare as one thinks; the rarity and fanciness and classiness are enforced by people having a vested image in a specific sign and signifier. i take it you refer obliquely here to the constructive utility of sick worldbreaking martial arts skills
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May 23, 2019 03:52
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i liked this one comment from Gog-Agog's intro page:quote:YS ATUN VRAMA PRESH
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Tollymain posted:i take it you refer obliquely here to the constructive utility of sick worldbreaking martial arts skills A lot. Citation: general statistics and scope of a multiversal blood war. But! How many sad moms? How many sad daughters and sons? How many sad orphans? How many only children, or adopted kids, or bastards? How many grandparents? How many aunts and uncles? How many retail workers, how many stockbrokers, how many kings, how many janitors, how many people lost it all. How many are dead now? How many are still alive? How many healed and moved on, how many wake up clutching their sheets and dripping with sweat from night terrors, how many were sheltered from the terrors, how many were exposed to far too many? Solomon David, statistically, is only different from them by being a statistical outlier. Learned the exact wrong lessons from a forbidden martial arts technique. Leveraged that into big fancy career as a multiversal tyrant who has the good sense to kiss you and smile as he fucks you. Real good of him to pull yourself up by your sandal-straps my dude. He didn't learn poo poo. He isn't poo poo. He isn't special. How many other people suffered in the same way he did and didn't become him? How many don't define their lives by their dead families and Daddy's Burden? This ain't an uncommon trauma, this is a notable and measurable sociological phenomenon! The ones who did tend to be dead now or worse off than him but as deluded as him, Men Who Would Be King screaming at the world from their lawn-chairs as they demand vengeance and blood and retribution because you can't quit your lovely 9-5 job stocking boxes in a megamart to go off and wield a sword. Behold the diamond. An exceptional carat, an exceptional size. The biggest of this breed that one may ever see. Notable only for his size and the deluded intensity with which he shines from a little polishing. Glorious may he reign from his gilded throne, inflexible and useless and impotent compared to the smaller ones of the same heritage and history as him. They may be drill bits, they may be used for optics, but that's a noble and good purpose, a stoic and solid and needed duty. Some may still languish in the dirt, but they're still considered valuable enough for people to kill and be killed over them, work children to death to harness them, manipulate markets to make a profit off them. All the world's biggest diamonds are good for is a novelty, sitting on a pillow under bright lights, unable to be touched or approached or used. A paperweight fit for a tyrant. A suitable epitaph.
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Who What Now posted:Yo what does this have to do with K6BD? And if the answer is "nothing", then kindly shut the gently caress up, please and thank you. Hostile V posted:Behold the diamond. An exceptional carat, an exceptional size. The biggest of this breed that one may ever see. Notable only for his size and the deluded intensity with which he shines from a little polishing. Glorious may he reign from his gilded throne, inflexible and useless and impotent compared to the smaller ones of the same heritage and history as him. 
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May 23, 2019 04:28
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nankeen posted:worms!
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Gog-Agog is going to have an actual explosion when she finds out her clever plan is just a copy of Incubus' significantly more clever plan regarding Allison. Also, I don't think Solomon David has anything in common with PL CYOA's Enkidel except being both muscular and dark-skinned, so, I'm not sure that 'Evil Enkidel' is a great nickname? If anything he's more like Tudiya.
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The joke is he's the player character if they became a raging jackass obsessed purely with ruling and stability as means to the end.
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Hostile V posted:But! How many sad worms?
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Hostile V posted:Yeah for one thing but like statistically and empirically: how many god drat sad dads did the Throne War make. How many dads lost their farms, their kids, their wives. How many dads learned the blade or the punch or the dance-fighting or the gun. How many dads declared vengeance. How many dads tried to carry out that vengeance. How many dads took their surviving kids and loved ones on a forced death march (or agreed-upon death march of familial bonding) of vengeance. How many dads lost everything except the memories or some other keepsakes and the urge to go forward and get even. good post and i agree
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Likely equal to or more than all the worms who were very full of carrion and pretty stoked for the buffet and population boom.
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i wonder what exactly stops gog from just worming everybody in throne secretly
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Well where's the fun in that?
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Tollymain posted:i wonder what exactly stops gog from just worming everybody in throne secretly Who says they haven't tried? Every so often people will pull up a spoonful of cereal but... oop! Worm! Dump out your bowl and give a playful wag of your finger at Gog-Agog who's snickering by the window and shrugs, "Oh well!"
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look im just saying i dont associate gog w good impulse control
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I think there's an implication that you need to do it on purpose, which I like. I really dislike forced hive mind poo poo in stories - unless the metaphor is tightly wound it's both viscerally unpleasant and totally narratively uninteresting because it erases character motivations rather than complicating them. Gog seems to need consent, even if you don't know what you're getting into. Or she can just eat you and create a worm golem mimic I guess, that probably works too, but isn't really 'worming' people so much as 'peopling' Worms.
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I wonder if Solomon has another facet that we will uncover in time or if this is genuinely it. He openly says he's a tyrant and takes over work from a people who were already ahead of their schedule. Does he do these things as propaganda or does he believe this is something he just needs to do as a ruler? Tourney might be dope! I say "might" because Allison is good at crashing parties so it might turn into something else entirely.
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David appears to believe that he needs to do everything, and has constructed his (very good) empire around his necessity at the center, even as he claims to look for a way out of it. He needs to make the final decisions, he needs to do the heavy lifting, he needs to bear the burdens no one else can. The downside here is if Allison "helps" David the same way as he helped the other demiurges so far, it's not going to necessarily turn out well for Solomon's subjects.
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"YOU'RE NOT PLAYING IT RIGHT" Solomon says as he takes the controller backDiscendo Vox posted:The downside here is if Allison "helps" David the same way as he helped the other demiurges so far, it's not going to necessarily turn out well for Solomon's subjects. ＧＲＥＡＴ ＬＥＡＤＥＲ ＨＡＳ ＤＩＥＤ ＣＥＬＥＳＴＩＡＬ ＥＭＰＩＲＥ ＭＵＳＴ ＦＡＬＬ Fish Noise fucked around with this message at 07:34 on May 23, 2019 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:Gog-Agog is going to have an actual explosion when she finds out her clever plan is just a copy of Incubus' significantly more clever plan regarding Allison. Gog-Agog is going to be pissed when Allison slaps a drop of blood out of Solomon, demands he turn over Zaid and just leaves without doing anything further. It’s still going to destroy Solomon because if you make a god bleed, nobody will believe I him anymore.
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