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exmachina posted:No, the Landsraad will. Polygamy leads to succession crises, How so? Paul's the ducal heir and his mother was just a concubine. If bastards are still legitimate heirs, then how does polygamy lead to succession crises?
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May 23, 2019 23:41
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https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1131691548230471681
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May 24, 2019 00:13
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#duh #youthinkso
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May 24, 2019 00:14
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I want me some Caladan Retsina wine.
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May 24, 2019 00:16
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Pee is stored in the stillsuit
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May 24, 2019 00:22
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Tell me of your home baklava recipe, Usul
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May 24, 2019 00:30
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Phanatic posted:How so? Paul's the ducal heir and his mother was just a concubine. If bastards are still legitimate heirs, then how does polygamy lead to succession crises? Also, did y'all miss the cult of psychic ninja witches that's insinuated itself into every Great House to control their lines of succession?
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May 24, 2019 00:31
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It's like I tell my girlfriend who has been waiting six years for me to propose. History will call you wife.
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May 24, 2019 00:34
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There's also Feyd's situation, where he's legitimate family, but only a potential successor. The Baron has to designate an heir, and the Emperor must approve his choice. I've always wondered about this passage: Count Fenring posted:"Um-m-m-m-m-ah-h-h-hm-m-m, you come upon such, mm-m-m, preciseness so rarely," the Count said, addressing the Baron's shoulder. "I . . . ah, congratulate you on the hm-m-m perfection of your ah-h-h heir. In the light of the hm-m-m elder, one might say." Is this a burn on the Baron, Rabban, or both? Or neither? I guess you can read it every single way, which is great.
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May 24, 2019 00:59
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Uh, their name isn’t from Agamemnon the Greek guy in the Trojan war they’re named after Agamemnon the cyber dictator who served under and later betrayed Lord Cybertrex
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May 24, 2019 01:27
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Halloween Jack posted:Paul is the heir because his mother is a "bound concubine." If he wanted, Leto could keep a harem of lesser concubines whose children couldn't inherit. If Leto married someone else, their children would take precedence over Paul. He didn't marry Jessica because the remote possibility of a political marriage was a useful tool. This is the kind of aristocratic antics upon which wars of succession are built. But then the bound concubines can also trigger succession crises, but the landsraad is okay with them. How would polygamy be any more likely to trigger a succession crisis than just having multiple kids with the same wife? Birth order would control, unless it wouldn’t, and the “it wouldn’t” cases don’t seem to be unique to polygamy.
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May 24, 2019 01:36
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Because the wives, unlike the concubines, would be noblewomen.
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May 24, 2019 01:45
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I think the idea here is that Jessica is considered a legitimate wife but is not considered to be an aristocrat in the sense of having lands and so on. If Leto had married another noble then their child or children would inherit, presumably, both of their properties, though they might work out something where Child 1 gets mom's planet and Child 2 gets Caladan. The complication here is if Leto marries two noblewomen and they both have their own planet, and then even if they divide things, maybe child 2 is like "Why don't I get planet 3? My mom's from planet 3, I deserve it" and child 3 is like "I should get all three planets" and then they raise armies and fight each other and gently caress things up. If Paul had let Irulan ride the worm then Irulan's children would have had a stronger claim on the imperial seat than Leto II did and ideally you want nobody else having any claim at all.
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May 24, 2019 02:34
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I think it's kinda funny that nobody has any qualms about a royal duke marrying a Bene Gesserit. Like I think, secrets or not, that people would have developed an opinion on that. It would get out that they're super killing machines. How can these mentats not come to the conclusion about them
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May 24, 2019 03:04
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The BGs have implicitly married everyone of note for millennia. Besides not really weird if the emperor of the known universe is doing it. Reading between the lines, it seems like they have a monopoly on the education of young women of rank.
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May 24, 2019 03:16
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skasion posted:The BGs have implicitly married everyone of note for millennia. Besides not really weird if the emperor of the known universe is doing it. Reading between the lines, it seems like they have a monopoly on the education of young women of rank. Oh, so it's less about most BG becoming noblewomen, and more about most noblewomen becoming BG. That makes sense. (How much of all this is thoughtful world-building and rumination upon gender roles throughout history, and how much is Herbert tpying one-handed about an unstoppable conspiracy of space babes wanting to bone everyone?)
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May 24, 2019 03:30
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Phanatic posted:How so? Paul's the ducal heir and his mother was just a concubine. If bastards are still legitimate heirs, then how does polygamy lead to succession crises? Paul is only the heir as long as Leto is unmarried. So Leto can dangle the offer of marriage to Great Houses. It is explicitly in the text. exmachina fucked around with this message at 03:39 on May 24, 2019 |
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May 24, 2019 03:36
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Tree Bucket posted:Oh, so it's less about most BG becoming noblewomen, and more about most noblewomen becoming BG. That makes sense. The older I get the more I realize the truth. It starts with the solitary grain of an idea. What if chicks could completely control their vaginal muscles? pulls out box of kleenex What if they found patterns in their controlled movements to make it feel better and then build on it? zip What if they could like, amplify pleasure and like tighten it to simultaneously prevent premature ejaculation? fap
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May 24, 2019 03:57
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and then what if like, they could enslave men with their super loving tight cooters mmph yeah oh poo poo
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May 24, 2019 04:10
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What I wanna know is how do they maintain control after the dude nuts Awesome at making snacks for afters?
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May 24, 2019 04:14
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To conclude: If Herbert had access to gross anime, it is probable Dune would never have been created.
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May 24, 2019 05:09
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nifty archive: bisexual mind control pussy women ver 2.0 (mc nc watersports chairdog blue balls) by Fr34ky_Fr4nK420
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May 24, 2019 05:19
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Tree Bucket posted:To conclude: If Herbert had access to gross anime, it is probable Dune would never have been created. I'm honestly shocked there hasn't been an animu/mangi adaptation of Dune yet.
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May 24, 2019 05:33
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Nobody tell him.
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May 24, 2019 06:02
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He who controls the spice, controls the yaoi-verse.
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May 24, 2019 06:20
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People always talking about Bernie Bros like they haven't even heard of the Bernie Gesserit Sisterhood, but I think a big part of that is that certain pussy muscles are extremely fearsome and silence all discussion of their existence. Many Duncans died little-deaths to bring us this information.
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May 24, 2019 06:36
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Prolonged Priapism posted:There's also Feyd's situation, where he's legitimate family, but only a potential successor. The Baron has to designate an heir, and the Emperor must approve his choice. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 24, 2019 |
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May 24, 2019 08:29
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Abulurd was his demibrother too, and we don’t really know enough about him to say if the line could refer to him. I think knowing Fenring, the line makes the most sense as being a deliberate burn on the Baron, but one he can claim was actually about Rabban if the Baron complains, thereby burning the Baron again.
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May 24, 2019 11:34
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Did any of the books ever explain what a demi-brother was? I just assumed it was like an illegitimate half brother from a concubine.
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skasion posted:The BGs have implicitly married everyone of note for millennia. Besides not really weird if the emperor of the known universe is doing it. Reading between the lines, it seems like they have a monopoly on the education of young women of rank.
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May 24, 2019 14:40
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Uh, their name isn’t from Agamemnon the Greek guy in the Trojan war they’re named after Agamemnon the cyber dictator who served under and later betrayed Lord Cybertrex I've only read the first three books (so none of the prequels) so I gotta ask, is this legit poo poo that is in them because lmao at "Lord Cyber T-Rex"
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May 24, 2019 14:48
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Super Waffle posted:Did any of the books ever explain what a demi-brother was? I just assumed it was like an illegitimate half brother from a concubine. who knows might be some bene gesserit poo poo From what I remember of the (ugh) prequel books, Lady Jessica is the daughter of RM Gaius Helen Mohiam and Baron Harkonnen. This is pre-fat days so the Baron is super athletic, but not at all into ladies and not into the BG at all. So they make some sort of deal where they knock boots and she takes his "genetic material" But then there's some double-crossing of the Harkonnens, a deal falls through. Mohiam has to go back to the baron and get more "material" but the Baron manages to paralyze her temporarily and essentially rapes her. And during the rape, she manufactures a toxin inside herself which she passes to the Baron which causes his transformation into Veruca Salt.
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May 24, 2019 15:31
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MA-Horus posted:who knows might be some bene gesserit poo poo I think this idea came from Children, when Alia starts channeling the Baron, and I think is even mentioned in the original Dune, when she tells Paul something like "I killed our grandfather"
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May 24, 2019 15:46
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The Baron being Jessica's father is made perfectly clear, Mohaim being her mother is an invention of Brian's books afaik
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May 24, 2019 15:55
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AFewBricksShy posted:I think this idea came from Children, when Alia starts channeling the Baron, and I think is even mentioned in the original Dune, when she tells Paul something like "I killed our grandfather"
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a kitten posted:The Baron being Jessica's father is made perfectly clear, Mohaim being her mother is an invention of Brian's books afaik Um I believe you meant to say Dune Author’s books
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Lol that Brian Herbert! "Finally the fans will discover the heretofore untold mystery of what made the Baron so fat. It was bad pussy!" @duneauthor indeed
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Mohiam being Jessica’s mom comes from the Dune Encyclopedia. In Children, the BG breeding records give Jessica’s mom another name (Tanidia) but the prequels claim that’s just alias Mohiam.
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So @DuneAuthor truly is the Midas of poo poo huh.
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