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RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Superconnie Seaplane please?

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marumaru
May 20, 2013



RandomPauI posted:

Superconnie Seaplane please?



wait

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

priznat posted:

Now do a C5 with pontoons

Quiet, you fool!

The Marines will hear you. :ssh:

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Inacio posted:

what the gently caress



There’s video, too.

https://youtu.be/pJ6zTZuq5zw

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


Bah, an A320 floats better than that!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Needs more C-130

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Needs a guy on a dinghy with a paintbrush industriously painting over the Y with an OAT

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

priznat posted:

Now do a C5 with pontoons

How about a seaplane that would dwarf (2,000,000 lbs max takeoff weight) a C-5?

Why? To sit out in the ocean with 4 MX missiles, until called upon to take flight and air-launch the MXs.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

joat mon posted:

How about a seaplane that would dwarf (2,000,000 lbs max takeoff weight) a C-5?

Why? To sit out in the ocean with 4 MX missiles, until called upon to take flight and air-launch the MXs.

God drat that was a phenomenally bad loving idea. Practically screams out for a Chuck Norris movie after North Korean commandos board one of those fuckers.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
Getting to ride business class on this five head boi today. :stwoon:

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

e.pilot posted:

Getting to ride business class on this five head boi today. :stwoon:



Nice. Doing QF7 & 8 is a bucket list item of mine.

I figure after that I'll have had my fill of A380s. Or hell, maybe I'll do IAD>DFW>SYD>AUH/DXB>IAD. :v:

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

CommieGIR posted:

Needs more C-130



Lockheed was way ahead of you. Also yet another bit of evidence that we live in the worst timeline.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
So, about spending a full day all told in the economy section of Cathay Pacific's 10-wide 777:

The flight from YVR to HK was underbooked. There were full four-wide middle rows being taken up by people lying across the seats for a snooze. It was pretty great. Food was surprisingly edible, like, I wouldn't necessarily order it off an a-la-carte menu but I enjoyed what was there. They turn the lights off and close the window shades shortly after takeoff, I'm presuming to encourage sleep to keep passengers quiet and help with jet lag. I slept for what must have been about 5-6 hours, which is what I usually get even when I'm not in a car seat. Jet lag passed quickly.

Coming back, it was booked solid. The tightness of the seating becomes apparent. I barely got any sleep, still feeling like I'm off my schedule a week later. Food was still good, at least.

Also I learned that people from cold dry places should not go to Hong Kong in May.

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-exploration-nasa/nasa-executive-quits-weeks-after-being-named-to-lead-moon-initiative-idUSKCN1SU0A5

quote:

His departure came after lawmakers rejected NASA’s proposal to create a separate directorate within the space agency to oversee future lunar missions and ultimately develop human exploration of Mars.

“The proposal was not accepted at this time, so we will move forward under our current organizational structure,” Bridenstine said. “Given NASA is no longer pursuing the new mission directorate, Mark has opted to pursue other opportunities.”

Last week, the Trump administration asked Congress to increase NASA’s spending next year by $1.6 billion as a “down payment” on the accelerated goal of landing Americans back on the moon by 2024, more than half a century after the end of the U.S. Apollo lunar program.

[...]

The two people with knowledge of the matter said Sirangelo’s ouster was sealed by increasing skepticism that 2024 was a realistic deadline for moon landings.

In his statement, Bridenstine said the agency was still exploring what organizational changes were “necessary to maximize efficiencies and achieve the end state of landing the first woman and the next man on the moon by 2024.”

“If the $1.6 billion does not materialize, we will fall back on the previous plan, which was to land in 2028,” the NASA chief told reporters at a news conference earlier in the day.

NASA announced earlier on Thursday it had selected the space technology company Maxar Technologies Inc as the first contractor to help build the “Gateway” outpost.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Inacio posted:

what the gently caress



Cruising Speed: yes

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

In LMAO news, the EASA casually took a dump in the FAA’s driveway by refusing to allow the max to fly before completing their own investigation. I’m honestly giddy because it’s about loving time Boeing saw some pushback for the way they went about certifying it in the first place.

lordofthefishes
Mar 30, 2008

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MrYenko posted:

The US-1/US-2 family is fascinating. They're capable of operating off high seas mostly because they use a fifth gas turbine engine to power a compressor for the (imagine for a moment the kind of compressor you could drive with a 1300hp turbine engine) boundary layer control system, which blows air over the ailerons, flaps, elevators, and rudder to enhance slow-speed lift and drastically improve low-speed control authority. This is something that the US repeatedly experimented with; Internally blown flaps (using compressor bleed air) were used on the F-104 and a few other fighters, and externally-blown flaps (using engine exhaust) are used on the C-17. No major US project that I can find ever used a dedicated compressed-air source like the US-1/2.


As a consequence, the f-104 had to land at full throttle to maintain control!

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Inacio posted:

what the gently caress



I want this, but re-engined with turboprops for maximum awesomeness.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

PT6A posted:

I want this, but re-engined with turboprops for maximum awesomeness.

IIRC, they took her off the floats, but they still have them. I think they were for sale at one point in the not-too-distant past. Edo built 30 sets of floats, but they were operationally kinda trash, having not-great water performance, 30mph lower cruise speed, and high tire failure rates when used on land.

I’m pretty sure that’s the last surviving set in existence.

Viktor
Nov 12, 2005

Speaking of dc3’s anyone else watching plane savers? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvbAjRGHKrqLFYaDWZmK6wxkMugq9EGSb

Less then two weeks and an unengined, missing avionics and dilapidated d-day dc3 from 6 months ago flys again. The work has been amazing and daily vlogs!

Major respect for the whole crew and ENA students.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

His videos are a little too meandering for me to watch all of, but super props to them for doing it. I really hope they can get it to Normandy by June.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

lordofthefishes posted:

As a consequence, the f-104 had to land at full throttle to maintain control!

It wasn't quite full throttle.

IIRC, the minimum RPM for the BLC to work was well within the normal range for an approach, but if the pilot chopped power once the flaps were down, the airplane would respond by rapidly rolling towards whichever wing lost the airflow first.

You could actually land the F-104 power off if the engine failed, but since it had the glide performance of a lawn dart, the "high key" position (directly over the airport, where the 360 degree descending turn to the runway would start) was something like 14,000ft AGL.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

Fat Albert has been retired.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28186/blue-angels-have-retired-their-beloved-c-130-fat-albert-transport-without-replacement

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

evil_bunnY posted:

In LMAO news, the EASA casually took a dump in the FAA’s driveway by refusing to allow the max to fly before completing their own investigation. I’m honestly giddy because it’s about loving time Boeing saw some pushback for the way they went about certifying it in the first place.

I think Transport Canada was saying something like that too but I totally expect them to expedite the decision though because of Westjets and Air Canada's fleet.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005


I hope they get a C-17 just to see the air force have a meltdown over it

JBark
Jun 27, 2000
Good passwords are a good idea.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Nice. Doing QF7 & 8 is a bucket list item of mine.

I figure after that I'll have had my fill of A380s. Or hell, maybe I'll do IAD>DFW>SYD>AUH/DXB>IAD. :v:

Wait until they finish refurbing the A380s. The fam and I flew First on QF7 and Biz on QF8 over this past Christmas, and it was very obvious it had been over 10 years since a redesign.

Don't get me wrong, its still miles above cattle class, and being able to sit two people at a table in first makes for a pretty cool dinner experience, but it's nowhere near something like Emirates. The newer Qantas domestic A330 biz class is far better than biz on the A380. Out of all the legs we did on that trip back the US, the final leg from SYD back to PER in A330 biz was our favourite.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

shame on an IGA posted:

I hope they get a C-17 just to see the air force have a meltdown over it

The Blue Angels livery is gorgeous IMO and a C-17 would look dope as hell. I approve.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

shame on an IGA posted:

I hope they get a C-17 just to see the air force have a meltdown over it

Nah, keep it Navy equipment, use a C-2. The CMV-22 transition should free up a lot of C-2 airframes, many of which have dozens of hours of life left in them.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

Honestly they probably should be transitioning to T45s with a C2 support aircraft but that's not America gently caress yeah enough so supposedly they're getting super hornets instead.

lordofthefishes
Mar 30, 2008

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azflyboy posted:

It wasn't quite full throttle.

IIRC, the minimum RPM for the BLC to work was well within the normal range for an approach, but if the pilot chopped power once the flaps were down, the airplane would respond by rapidly rolling towards whichever wing lost the airflow first.

You could actually land the F-104 power off if the engine failed, but since it had the glide performance of a lawn dart, the "high key" position (directly over the airport, where the 360 degree descending turn to the runway would start) was something like 14,000ft AGL.

You are technically correct, I just find the "don't throttle back or you'll die" aspect of the aircraft morbidly amusing. I believe a diagram of the power-off approach is posted somewhere in the airpower thread, actually.

lordofthefishes
Mar 30, 2008

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:spergin:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Someone (me half the time) posts that every what 50ish pages?

The summary is that I’m pretty sure an F-104 pilot must’ve signed off on the Space Shuttle’s circling approach.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Nah, keep it Navy equipment, use a C-2. The CMV-22 transition should free up a lot of C-2 airframes, many of which have dozens of hours of life left in them.

I refuse to let this go unacknowledged.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Godholio posted:

I refuse to let this go unacknowledged.

Agreed. Can we also agree that it'd basically need to be half a wing of C-2s, since the point of the support bird is to have spare parts and equipment for the main jets, but the first two C-2s would just be packed full of C-2 parts so THOSE don't get stranded somewhere. Then you could have a couple more C-2s for the maintainers and F-35B parts.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

e.pilot posted:

Getting to ride business class on this five head boi today. :stwoon:



Anything like their 748 I was on upstairs last fall, it was a great flight. Service, attention, food, drinks, entertainment, the seat in general was great.

Still could not sleep on that layflat though, and killed me that I couldnt.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

slidebite posted:

Anything like their 748 I was on upstairs last fall, it was a great flight. Service, attention, food, drinks, entertainment, the seat in general was great.

Still could not sleep on that layflat though, and killed me that I couldnt.

It’s been great, just finished breakfast and starting the descent into Frankfurt right now. Managed to get an hour nap in.

Aargh
Sep 8, 2004

JBark posted:

Wait until they finish refurbing the A380s. The fam and I flew First on QF7 and Biz on QF8 over this past Christmas, and it was very obvious it had been over 10 years since a redesign.

Don't get me wrong, its still miles above cattle class, and being able to sit two people at a table in first makes for a pretty cool dinner experience, but it's nowhere near something like Emirates. The newer Qantas domestic A330 biz class is far better than biz on the A380. Out of all the legs we did on that trip back the US, the final leg from SYD back to PER in A330 biz was our favourite.

As a counter though I flew Melbourne-LA on the A380 premium economy then LA-NY on the Dreamliner, then the reverse on the way back in October. Despite being 10 years older the A380 shits all over the Dreamliner in terms of space and comfort in Premium. If the redesign of the 380 includes the the Dreamliner seating then run very far from Qantas cause that poo poo is cramped.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

e.pilot posted:

It’s been great, just finished breakfast and starting the descent into Frankfurt right now. Managed to get an hour nap in.
I was on one of their new A350s from YVR-MUC and while it was daylight I was a little kid playing the the external views of the AC. Nose view, tail view, straight underneath view, just behind forward gear view. It was great and I love poo poo like that.

Arishtat
Jan 2, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bja4cZM333s

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PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe




Godspeed, bulbous one.

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