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O word. Sorry. Too used to racist dipshits to recognize a joke. My bad! Edit : Uh.... Which Landsknechte had the best cod-pieces?
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ACAB. All codpieces are beautiful
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May 24, 2019 03:42
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zoux posted:The trick to french is to pronounce as few letters as possible in any given word Laziness is the key to pronouncing any language like a native
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May 24, 2019 03:55
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zoux posted:The trick to kwebecker is to swear as often as possible in any given sentence
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May 24, 2019 03:57
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May 24, 2019 04:05
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It's all about how many times you can say hon hon hon, based on when I went to Quebec. Also the one time I went to Quebec I ended up speaking Spanish more than using my terrible French because I found a bakery where all the workers were from Ecuador and we ended up hanging out for a week, it was awesome. They gave me a baguette to take home
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May 24, 2019 04:10
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Pretty sure the Museum of History in Gatineau says otherwise but alright... Helps that it's a federal museum and not provincial. Our history education in Quebec varied lots throughout the decades, but it's definitely a thread in older generations of "We were really nice to the natives. The English and the Iroquois were total dicks tho" when the reality is probably closer to "Jaques Cartier probably shouldn't have decided to help out the Huron in a brush war against one of the most united and powerful native confederacies, thus helping to cement them into allying with the English"
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This interview is astonishing. Full recording is in the tweet below. https://mobile.twitter.com/thymetikon/status/1131702577878503425 (In fairness to Wolf, she reacts pretty well all things considered. Also it seems clear from the interview as a whole that the execution data isn't the core premise of the book. But still, this is bad.)
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Yeah that could have absolutely happened to me.
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Mr Enderby posted:This interview is astonishing. Full recording is in the tweet below. Absolutely damning. Edit: This is the same author who said 150,000 American women died every year from anorexia. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 19:32 on May 24, 2019 |
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May 24, 2019 19:24
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SlothfulCobra posted:I've been listening to the old seasons of Revolutions again, and so often things wind down to a tragic end. Cromwell's waffling to the grave, Haiti's little genocide, Zapata's assassination, and Pancho Villa's steadily dwindling campaign of banditry. It can sometimes be hard to keep listening towards the end. Revolutions started up again with a new season on the big Russian revolution. According to the first episode, Karl Marx was a diversity pick for the First International/International Workingmen's Association. Apparently, they couldn't find enough big-name German leftist revolutionaries for the St. Martin's Hall Meeting in London, and decided to settle for adding Karl Marx to the list.
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May 24, 2019 19:26
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HEY GUNS posted:I was mulling over whether to link that, but I concluded it would sound better coming from someone who was not on record as getting mad at the left. Was it here or religionthread where I said that all departments called "___studies" are worthless? Apparently this is based on the diss that got her a degree from Oxford. What's the book about exactly?
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May 24, 2019 20:02
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zoux posted:What's the book about exactly? John Addington Symonds and the use of the law to control sexuality in Victorian England.
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May 24, 2019 20:23
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I don't understand, why is she defending ISIS? I don't see what her angle is from her ideology.
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zoux posted:I don't understand, why is she defending ISIS? I don't see what her angle is from her ideology. The gist of her argument was basically that the threat of ISIS was manufactured/overblown by the US and UK to justify the governments suppressing civil liberty and justify high defense budgets. From another Facebook post by her: quote:The US benefits from … us being SO drat SCARED so that our intelligence agencies can take away the last of our freedoms on behalf of corporate interests the way intelligence agencies in the West are doing all over ... Britain, Canada, Australia, next NZ ... so there you are. Epicurius fucked around with this message at 23:02 on May 24, 2019 |
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May 24, 2019 23:00
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Epicurius posted:John Addington Symonds and the use of the law to control sexuality in Victorian England.
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HEY GUNS posted:Namely, that 19th century feminism drew attention to mens' misdeeds and official homophobia developed to distract the public from the misdeeds of straight men I admittedly know next to nothing about this subject (unless we're talking about the Royal Navy, and even then I can't say more than a couple sweeping, dubiously-informed generalizations) but... huh?
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HEY GUNS posted:Namely, that 19th century feminism drew attention to mens' misdeeds and official homophobia developed to distract the public from the misdeeds of straight men Wasn't homosexuality criminalized and/or vilified long before the 19th century?
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chitoryu12 posted:Wasn't homosexuality criminalized and/or vilified long before the 19th century? It might've been, but the Victorians made everything related to sex and laws about sex worse.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I admittedly know next to nothing about this subject (unless we're talking about the Royal Navy, and even then I can't say more than a couple sweeping generalizations) but... huh? there is a strain in leftist thought of describing historical facts/developments/tendencies/events in terms of what kind of effects they had, which is fair enough: "the effect of the development of surveillance procedures in the nineteenth century was the development of an ever-more-controlled populace" or whatever. (You see this in Foucault. The "geneaology" of whatever. Another variation of this is to talk about subconscious impulses.) Some people can talk like this without losing track of the fact that what they are talking about is also the result of a concatenation of circumstances, random unrelated bullshit, and various crap happening. That there was not one caause but many causes, not one effect but many effects. That history has no goal. In a word that it is not deliberate. Some people can't. These people go from "One effect of X taking place was Y" to "X took place in order to bring Y about." HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 00:21 on May 25, 2019 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Wasn't homosexuality criminalized and/or vilified long before the 19th century?
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May 25, 2019 00:07
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HEY GUNS posted:Yes. The last execution for buggery in England was in 1831. The confusion arises because the law stayed on the books until the 1860s, but nobody was executed under it. I mean, the whole thing sounds like it was a pain in the rear end, tbh? 
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Hey, not sure if this is the right thread to ask, and if not, sorry. Is it possible I could I get a recommendation on a good book about the Wars of the Roses for a friend of mine? He's looking for something around the level of Tom Holland's earlier books (Rubicon, Persian Fire, Millennium) or something like "Horrible Histories for adults", so basically an informative book written by someone who knows what they're talking about, but not an ultra dry academic thing. He'd also prefer a British author if possible, but that's not a dealbreaker.
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Chucat posted:Hey, not sure if this is the right thread to ask, and if not, sorry. Dan Jones's War of the Roses book is quite good, so is his book about the Plantagenets.
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May 25, 2019 01:04
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Chucat posted:He's looking for something around the level of Tom Holland's earlier books I know it's not who you meant, but my mind immediately leapt to Spiderman.
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HEY GUNS posted:Yes. The last execution for buggery in England was in 1831. The confusion arises because the law stayed on the books until the 1860s, but nobody was executed under it. I'm not a fan of Naomi Wolf but I have lots of sympathy over someone getting tripped up by weird archaic language used by the English government because that's happened to me more times than I can count. A huge amount of their internal memoranda are nigh-incomprehensible without knowing a dozen specific departmental quirks and procedural traditions. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 01:13 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 01:11
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm not a fan of Naomi Wolf but I have lots of sympathy over someone getting tripped up by weird archaic language used by the English government because that's happened to me more times than I can count. A huge amount of their internal memoranda are nigh-incomprehensible without knowing a dozen specific departmental quirks and procedural traditions.
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May 25, 2019 01:15
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HEY GUNS posted:ok, so, there is a fundamental confusion here on the part of the vast majority of people who talk like this. The often ossifies into believing in a form of historical inevitability where abstract forces cause everything to happen in a methodical, preordained way, and ascribing any outcome to the product of an individual's decisions is just a manifestation of 'Great man theory'.
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May 25, 2019 01:26
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When going through some old family crud we found a letter saying back to the civil war from one of our family members to another. There is also a diary in my dads house somewhere, too. They are cool but we don't know how to take care of them or if they even have any real historical value. So two questions I guess, do these have historical value and is there a good place to contact that would be interested in them?
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May 25, 2019 01:37
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm not a fan of Naomi Wolf but I have lots of sympathy over someone getting tripped up by weird archaic language used by the English government because that's happened to me more times than I can count. A huge amount of their internal memoranda are nigh-incomprehensible without knowing a dozen specific departmental quirks and procedural traditions. If I'm going out to bat in a cricket match, I should probably figure out what the LBW law is before I leave the pavilion.
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Trin Tragula posted:If I'm going out to bat in a cricket match, I should probably figure out what the LBW law is before I leave the pavilion. by now my first assumption is yall are making these words up to gently caress with us, tbh also cricket is just slow baseball in sweaters HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 02:33 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 02:27
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The English have bewitched the rules of cricket some how, I've read about it a million times but it just slides right out of my brain.
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According to wolf, what she's talking about specifically happened in 1857. New definitions were introduced which she alleges set off a mid-century gay panic https://www.thebookseller.com/news/virago-acquires-new-naomi-wolf https://twitter.com/Shaker_aphra/status/1132033286358872064 HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 03:22 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 03:20
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Trin Tragula posted:If I'm going out to bat in a cricket match, I should probably figure out what the LBW law is before I leave the pavilion. Oh, absolutely, but I was just rewriting my doctorate thesis for publication today and I encountered a place where I'd totally misread one Admiral's orders in the same way she did so I had to completely change my next paragraph to account for it. Also I only understand your cricket reference because of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
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zoux posted:The English have bewitched the rules of cricket some how, I've read about it a million times but it just slides right out of my brain. Every time cricket schadenfreude is posted in the Schadenfreude thread it's basically someone performing a move that looks completely normal from a spectator's standpoint and is likely legal but actually violates a strict rule of decorum, causing the spectators to erupt in anger for seemingly no reason and the player to be ostracized forever because they added a 5 degree spin to the ball while batting it with the edge out, giving an extra 2 seconds for them to knock over the 20th wicket and conquer Africa.
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edit: removed, good remark from bad source. Found the same info from a better person, and https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1131893541884481538 y i k e s HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 06:06 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 04:59
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Remember those "DRILL HERE" stickers for laptops? I told my father about those, and the more extreme desktop case of thermite on the HDD activated by a big red button. Dad was talking about how computers aren't secure these days, I mentioned those, he said "Yeah! Just like we taped thermite grenades to the tops of all the radios." Some men just want to watch the world (or at least the classified parts of it) burn. Also one of those radios with a thermite grenade duct-taped on top was on his back.
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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How many cannons could a ship full of sugar fetch during the Napoleonic wars? I'm trying to wrap my mind around the numbers of just how valuable it was as a cash crop and just why the french willing to lose so many men who'd be otherwise freed up to do something else.
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In the peace that followed the seven year’s war, France had to choose between all of the province of Quebec + their other bits of the North American continent that weren’t St. Pierre & Miquelon or the island of Guadeloupe. I’m gonna go ahead and assume sugar was loving valuable.
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