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The early stuff was more fun, jumping between jokes and kinda artsy serene moments with some weird takes on religion spliced in, but always tainted by a fairly misogynistic perspective. After he turned away from misogyny, he went in really hard on this weird surrealistic depiction of an abstract patriarchy which now his characters abstractly fight, and the religious figures are still in there, but it's not clear whether it's commentary or just because the characters were already in the comic. The abstraction is weird (and unnecessary, considering the not-abstract patriarchy we live in) and there's some weird political opinions mixed in there, but most importantly it's not funny or fun to follow.
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Joe Slowboat posted:This is a pun I didn't know I needed, thank you.
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Scaramouche posted:I'm still waiting for Your Webcomic Sucks and You Should Feel Bad to come back That's not the same thing as that Bad Webcomics wiki, right?
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Hostile V posted:Also don't ban your entire forum and make a new one that can only appreciate and compliment, never criticize, your work and your terrible terrible SWERF-n-TERF leanings. I’ve seen people suggest that we replace TERF with FART (Feminism-Appropriating Reactionary Transphobe), but then we wouldn’t have this delightful pun. Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 21:32 on May 26, 2019 |
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May 26, 2019 20:19
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Dawgstar posted:That's not the same thing as that Bad Webcomics wiki, right? Your Webcomic Is Bad and You Should Feel Bad was originally some SA forum posts that were rehosted on a blog and expanded into some recurring articles critiquing various webcomics by a few contributors. The main writer got tired of the gimmick for a number of reasons, like being disgusted with his prior use of slurs in the posts and the cycle of augments around it settling into "channers think it's brilliant, other people offended at strong language*". The Bad Webcomics Wiki was formed by the contingent of channers that liked the blog, and tried to rehost the old posts after the blog was deleted, but were forced to remove them and write their own bad reviews instead. *before this became normal internet discourse
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May 26, 2019 20:48
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Dr Christmas posted:I’ve seen people suggest that we replace TERF with FART (Feminism-Appropriating Exclusionary Transphobe), but then we wouldn’t have this delightful pun. I'm sure there's some way we can get FART and SHART out of it.
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Transphobic 'feminists' confuse the ever loving poo poo out of me How do you even reconcile that to yourself
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Burkion posted:Transphobic 'feminists' confuse the ever loving poo poo out of me Got Mine, gently caress You is an extremely compelling force.
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Burkion posted:Transphobic 'feminists' confuse the ever loving poo poo out of me There’s no inherent contradiction in a TERF’s worldview: if someone doesn’t consider trans women to be women, then their feminist ideals don’t apply to trans women. If they’re particularly hateful on top of just being a piece of poo poo, then they can even take offense at trans women “appropriating” womanhood! I can’t parse how SWERFs can maintain their views, though; if women are empowered to do whatever they want with their bodies and their lives, then doesn’t sex work count??
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Burkion posted:Transphobic 'feminists' confuse the ever loving poo poo out of me A lot of radical second wave feminist theory dips into nu-age wiccan junk about the essential womanhood and the sacred power of birth, periods, etc. And yes, this does dovetail neatly with right wing  used to justify misogyny.
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SWERF ideology often functions on ironically paternalistic grounds; they construct a feminism where a (declared, by the SWERF) lack of feminist class consciousness means women don't have any autonomy if they're doing what SWERFs don't like. It's similar to Kant's formulation that freedom is only choosin to do precisely what is moral, but for a certain code of conduct for women: liberation isn't doing what the individual would like to do, but what is considered proper for a feminist. And, like, there is such a thing as internalized misogyny; SWERFs display it all the time, IMO. But their arguments rely on that same kind of analysis. E: I've personally been convinced by the argument that what's wrong with some sex work isn't that it's sex, but that it's work. Exploitation is part and parcel with capitalism, and sexual exploitation is particularly gross, but that means we need protections for workers, not SWERF paternalism. To make my position explicit.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The early stuff was more fun, jumping between jokes and kinda artsy serene moments with some weird takes on religion spliced in, but always tainted by a fairly misogynistic perspective. After he turned away from misogyny, he went in really hard on this weird surrealistic depiction of an abstract patriarchy which now his characters abstractly fight, and the religious figures are still in there, but it's not clear whether it's commentary or just because the characters were already in the comic. That's the thing right there. It went from a fairly misogynistic chauvinist perspective, to a fairly misogynistic feminist perspective. Ishida's attitude towards women never changed, only the ways in which he tried to restrict and objectify them.
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Burkion posted:Transphobic 'feminists' confuse the ever loving poo poo out of me They don't like or trust men, and consider trans women men. This isn't all that complicated.
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John Allison had to remake bobbins.horse since his old CMS stopped updating and broke, and is migrating over to Wordpress. He posted a new update, essentially saying we're probably not going to get any new webcomics until September. He has a new print project that will take him that long at least. But, he does have a few months of strips roughed-out for when that time comes.
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Burkion posted:Transphobic 'feminists' confuse the ever loving poo poo out of me It's rooted in oldschool Dworkin feminism that transplanted Maoist theory into the patriarchy wholesale, i.e. because transwomen grew up being treated as men with all the privileges that confers expecting to be accepted after transitioning is basically the same thing as a billionaire going "well I don't feel rich, let me guide the revolution fellow comrades". It... didn't end well for the second wave even before the current era of trans acceptance A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 27, 2019 |
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Pyroclastic posted:John Allison had to remake bobbins.horse since his old CMS stopped updating and broke, and is migrating over to Wordpress. He posted a new update, essentially saying we're probably not going to get any new webcomics until September. He has a new print project that will take him that long at least. But, he does have a few months of strips roughed-out for when that time comes.  Good to see things are still going to continue in some form!
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https://twitter.com/SleeplessDomain/status/1133041114850758661 If someone here is interested.
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How far into Sleepless Domain did Cagle take over the art herself?
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Beginning chapter three, I think?
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Yeah I just checked, that was the point where she started doing the art as well. e. and the kickstarter's reached the initial goal, less than 24 hours in. lol Mikl fucked around with this message at 21:37 on May 27, 2019 |
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My colors are still trash (I need to spend a month just... working on them) but I just finished the Fantomah cameo I'd been working towards for more than a year and I'm pretty satisfied with how it came out.
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Rand Brittain posted:Believe it or not, Sinfest was once really, really good. In the current arc, there's some kids at some kind of gender training facility, and then some girl breaks them out using a razor grappling yo-yo, and then there's several splash pages of them frolicking, and it's all done with weird minimal dialogue and I have no idea what the point or message is. Maybe if I read further back I'll get the overall context and story but ugggh no thanks Edit: I guess it's a big ol' strawman about transitioning trans kids. Barf. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 19:29 on May 28, 2019 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:In the current arc, there's some kids at some kind of gender training facility, and then some girl breaks them out using a razor grappling yo-yo, and then there's several splash pages of them frolicking, and it's all done with weird minimal dialogue and I have no idea what the point or message is. Maybe if I read further back I'll get the overall context and story but ugggh no thanks Curiosity overcame me and I had to bounce after reading three pages back; it's standard TERF ideas about big pharma selling 'gender fluid' as a miracle cure, complete with 'don't buy the idea that you can be anything you want to be.' It's purely transphobia, with a dash of medical conspiracy theory. Biological determinism is apparently good, to TERFs.
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DoubleCakes posted:
"Being trans is a whim of privileged white men." First of all: gently caress YOU for calling trans women men. Secondly: gently caress YOU for trans men erasure. Thirdly: DOUBLE-PLUS-gently caress-YOU for trans POC erasure. quote:
Fourthly: EXTREMELY gently caress YOU for non-binary erasure. I think this is the most gently caress yous I have given for so few strips. Sorry, I've had a rough week. (And it's only Tuesday!  )I'd heard Sinfest had swerved into TERF-SWERF territory, but this is even worse than I thought. Let's never post about this again. To be clear, I'm not telling DoubleCakes to go gently caress themselves. Just Ishida. Sometimes I'm unable to get tone across, so I thought I'd clarify.
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DoubleCakes posted:
It might be my naivete speaking but I thought the second one was just all of the aspirational figures pictured were men.
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Scaramouche posted:It might be my naivete speaking but I thought the second one was just all of the aspirational figures pictured were men. I really don't want to go back and read the comic to be sure, but I think the product that was being advertised in this posters is expressly hormone therapy to make you trans (hence, "gender fluid") and I guess the point is that it's being marketed to (privileged) men who want a new experience?
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Mr. Lobe posted:is this for real? yes
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Mr. Lobe posted:is this for real?
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That Sinfest stuff is some serious trans-misogynistic poo poo. What the gently caress is this?
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habeasdorkus posted:What the gently caress is this? Sarah Zero: The Online Graphic Novel
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