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I get slapped by those spine-snap angled stabs a lot, looks like a swing startup to me and then bam, damage goes out before I can react to the "swing". Really wish I got most of last night's duels on my stream, servers were littered with dudes doing Chiv ground slaps and twists. They all had t3 helmet + hood too lol I really like the 2 point hand axe. I know the arming sword may be better but the axe feels really good to use. e: people close to Grator, the lead weapon/armor designer, are saying that we're supposed to get a bunch of cosmetics soon. Hopefully it's soon and not soon™. I need to join their discord, bunch of cool info drops there all the time apparently lol I want more t2 armor, and helmets that aren't just reskins of the norman helmet, and the t3 helmets but with a lifted visor. Babe Magnet fucked around with this message at 15:04 on May 28, 2019 |
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Farm Frenzy posted:I'm at the level where i can handle normal swordfighting but every duel server has one dude who runs directly into your face while doing insane wide swaying drags and i cant even tell what i'm supposed to be parrying i figured out what all of these guys are doing!!! turns out that if you combine weird looking up-dragged overheads with morphs your opponent will be confused as poo poo
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May 28, 2019 16:10
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Is it typical to have periodic bouts of high packet loss? I was having this issue the other day and it seemed to resolve itself, now it's back. Network stuff seems solid on my end.
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May 28, 2019 21:49
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Yeah, Giru is on a whole other level. He's been running around as a ninja using smoke bombs and daggers, barely trying, and he still completely wrecks people. He will also work in a super kick where he 360's before throwing a kick.
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May 29, 2019 00:20
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Trash rapier man destroys noobs who cant chamber, news at 11
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May 29, 2019 00:26
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Myrmidongs posted:Yeah, Giru is on a whole other level. He's been running around as a ninja using smoke bombs and daggers, barely trying, and he still completely wrecks people. He will also work in a super kick where he 360's before throwing a kick. I counted the time till bitching about the rapier. Like yeah... its all the rapier Pestacio, nothin' too it.
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May 29, 2019 00:27
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Motherfucker posted:I counted the time till bitching about the rapier. Like yeah... its all the rapier Pestacio, nothin' too it. Rapier is an extremely easy weapon to get kills with if you are fighting people who don't know how to counter it.
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May 29, 2019 00:28
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that describes like 80% of the weapons in this game. the maul the eveningstar, the messer, the spear, shields anything, poo poo the cleaver and the dagger can be super nasty if you "don't know how to counter it"
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May 29, 2019 00:31
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Captain Gordon posted:Rapier is an extremely easy weapon to get kills with if you are fighting people who don't know how to counter it. oh slick you shoulda been in that group you'd definitely be the dude to show him.
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May 29, 2019 00:32
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https://clips.twitch.tv/IntelligentSincereClamAsianGlow Ackshually the dagger is an extremely easy weapon to get kills with if you're fighting people who don't know how to counter it three at a time.
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May 29, 2019 00:34
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Rapier is annoying and definitely needs some tuning but it's not as bad as people make it out to be. I'd rather fight someone good with a rapier than good with choke-grip eveningstar, that motherfucker will 2 hit you with any swings or stabs, from any direction, against all armor types and in all locations lol
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May 29, 2019 00:36
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You'll taste my arming sword and die peasant.
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May 29, 2019 00:39
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duel servers are starting to become real lovely
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May 29, 2019 00:41
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Babe Magnet posted:duel servers are starting to become real lovely Duel servers were corny anyway tbh. They need official / legit ones. Tourney ones too
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May 29, 2019 00:48
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official/legit ones would not do anything to prevent them from being as bad as they are. in fact, they may be worse, as at least sometimes there's an admin hanging out on a duel server that can ban people who just leave before the kick goes through and resume, or break map bounds and shoot crossbow turrets, or just run around building spike walls in groups lol
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May 29, 2019 00:53
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Glenn Quebec posted:You'll taste my arming sword and die peasant. Speaking of arming swords, although I quite like using one as a backup for my short spear (+heater), is it worth using over the short sword? I haven't been able to play much yet, but I was wondering if that extra point is perhaps best spent elsewhere.
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May 29, 2019 00:54
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Major Isoor posted:Speaking of arming swords, although I quite like using one as a backup for my short spear (+heater), is it worth using over the short sword? I haven't been able to play much yet, but I was wondering if that extra point is perhaps best spent elsewhere. gently caress yes. The arming sword stab is better than a rapiers. 3/3/3 arming Sword + bloodlust
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May 29, 2019 00:55
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Glenn Quebec posted:gently caress yes. The arming sword stab is better than a rapiers. 3/3/3 arming Sword + bloodlust Alright cool, I'm glad I made the right choice then! (Especially as I blew a heap of coins on making my arming sword look pretty, before remembering that the short sword exists  )
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May 29, 2019 00:56
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I think I'm finally starting to "get" the combat in this. Still figuring it out, but I can at least see the logic and what I should be doing on another level.
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Motherfucker posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/IntelligentSincereClamAsianGlow Actually, I see how none of his opponents are capable of simple chamber+ accel slash. Babe Magnet posted:that describes like 80% of the weapons in this game. I dont get the comparison. There are weapons in this game which have fast attack/fast riptose speed and are exclusively stabbing weapons. Countering stab-only weapons is as easy as chamber+slash, but most people who play this are bad and do not know how to do this. Maul, Eveningstar and Messer can alternate between slashing and stabbing, therefore they are harder to counter then a dagger or a rapier, which will be a stab 99% of the time. Captain Gordon fucked around with this message at 01:09 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 01:06
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It's not a comparison of weapons as much as it's saying that "fighting people who are bad and can't fight your weapon are easy kills" which is like yeah no poo poo. You specifically called out the rapier as being strong because of this reason, I was trying to get across that it's a bad point altogether. actually this is stupid your original point just seems to be that it's nothing special because it's just a video of a dude killing people who are bad and you used the phrase "trash rapier man" which started a debate about weapon strength, this is dumb, lets just all agree: those dudes in the video are bad yeah lol. Trix is a favorite of mine and my favorite part of his videos are where we gets into fights with people who seem to actually know how to play the game. Watching him cleave through chaff is pretty funny tho
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May 29, 2019 01:28
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I don't think any of the weapons are really any harder or easier to fight than any other, they're just different. Its hard to fight people who are really good at the game no matter what they use.
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May 29, 2019 01:31
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yeah it not only depends on your personal skill and preference but also your preferred weapon type. I don't often use big-rear end 2handers outside of the halberd and war-axe (and war axe isn't even that big, just slow lol) so I don't generally have a problem with rapiers because I can keep up with them pretty easy, but I get trashed by versatile weapons like pole axes and evening-stars.
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If anything I guess i'd say the least commonly used weapons are the hardest, since you have less experience fighting against them.
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May 29, 2019 01:35
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That said rapiers are lame af
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hakimashou posted:If anything I guess i'd say the least commonly used weapons are the hardest, since you have less experience fighting against them. Kind of depends. The Warhammer is just a shittier handaxe in like all regards. It's the least used for a reason (which is a shame because it's dope visually and historically). Shortsword is a shittier arming sword, the timing isn't even all that different. There's a few weapons that really are just other weapons but shittier. You should be able to throw all of the peasant weapons since you can't alt-grip them. Also, let me throw my buckler like a frisbee.
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Babe Magnet posted:It's not a comparison of weapons as much as it's saying that "fighting people who are bad and can't fight your weapon are easy kills" which is like yeah no poo poo. You specifically called out the rapier as being strong because of this reason, I was trying to get across that it's a bad point altogether. Ok, thats fair! And to be fair to the streamer also, his footwork is on point and he is really good at consistently stabbing people in the head, regardless of weapon.
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May 29, 2019 01:47
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That streamer has talked before about how he thinks the rapier is pretty bad and all this stuff is 10x easier when he's using a weapon that can kill in 2 hits instead of 4 and can swing through multiple enemies. There was once where he was running around beheading everyone with a bardiche constantly and then switched to the rapier for a life or two. Despite him getting less kills than he was before the enemy team immediately started complaining in chat about rapier being OP.
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May 29, 2019 02:31
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raipiers are cool and my friend
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Major Isoor posted:Speaking of arming swords, although I quite like using one as a backup for my short spear (+heater), is it worth using over the short sword? I haven't been able to play much yet, but I was wondering if that extra point is perhaps best spent elsewhere. If your goal is to be able to chuck your spear and switch to a decent 1-hander, definitely go with the arming sword. The arming sword has way more threatening swings which means chambering is way stronger and you can abuse swings against weapons that have bad swings. code:comedyblissoption fucked around with this message at 02:53 on May 29, 2019 |
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I'm really impressed by people who can dodge stabs just by turning themselves side-on to the stab and stepping back or forward
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:That streamer has talked before about how he thinks the rapier is pretty bad and all this stuff is 10x easier when he's using a weapon that can kill in 2 hits instead of 4 and can swing through multiple enemies. I can accidentally cut the heads off enemies who are off screen with it on my way to killing my intended target, even in 3rd person  But half the server will trip over themselves to go "No actually, thrust drags are bad!" if I start joking about my bardiche no scope kills.Though my real joys are overhands that chop the faces off enemies without hurting a crowd of teammates swarming around, because I am a big softy of a murder knight. Section Z fucked around with this message at 03:17 on May 29, 2019 |
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My main goal when I play this game is to make life miserable for people who chose to ride horses. Usually a simple billhook will suffice, but occasionally I run into someone who actually knows what they are doing (and takes the time to pick up a lance), and the billhook alone isn't enough. Thankfully, the toolbox exists, and with it you can drop a wall which will instantly stop a horse, leaving its rider desperately trying to escape as he is drug from his horse and mercilessly stabbed by a horde of once-victims. No creature on this Earth is as salty and indignant as a horse-lord brought low by a simple toolbox.
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May 29, 2019 03:26
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cerebral posted:My main goal when I play this game is to make life miserable for people who chose to ride horses. Usually a simple billhook will suffice, but occasionally I run into someone who actually knows what they are doing (and takes the time to pick up a lance), and the billhook alone isn't enough. Thankfully, the toolbox exists, and with it you can drop a wall which will instantly stop a horse, leaving its rider desperately trying to escape as he is drug from his horse and mercilessly stabbed by a horde of once-victims. See horses are actually perfectly balanced
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May 29, 2019 04:55
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Section Z posted:Sums up even my casual experience with the Bardiche, really. Bardiche is my current go to weapon. You get a solid combo weapon and then alt grip it to be (what feels like) a longer executioners sword. Its really fun to encounter war Axe or maul users and simply step out of their range and headshot them with the alt swing. I recently found out you can use your alt grip switch to "feint" out of a slash. Swing -> alt grip -> backup -> swing catches a lot of people off guard with the extra reach. I still need to learn to not chamber stabs just because I can, instead of tactically using it. Normally I don't like "fighting" games but the combat system and mechanics are so satisfying to win and lose by.
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May 29, 2019 04:59
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I want to play a gimmick game now where I billhook everybody off their horse (friend and foe alike) and then hide the horses somewhere out of the way where they are less likely to be picked up (or just murder them). I assume only one horse for each spawn point can exist at a time? Edit: or wall them in with the tool box, I bet you could deny at least a couple of horses before people wised up to your shenanigans.
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May 29, 2019 05:31
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Yeah. They're essentially just Battlefield vehicles, same exact rules.
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May 29, 2019 05:33
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I'd totally be down for a tourny gamemode where you run around throwing axes at targets, jousting, getting into punchups and swordfights while peasents throw crap at you and boo you.
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Motherfucker posted:I'd totally be down for a tourny gamemode where you run around throwing axes at targets, jousting, getting into punchups and swordfights while peasents throw crap at you and boo you. its called "frontline" ride a horse some time!
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What is the twirl I've seen people do with the maul? I've gone off several times today using the maul but I can't seem to do it myself, yet I witness it a lot from other maul users. It feels like a stab into a horizontal but I don't think that's it.
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