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KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!
I was wondering when the first nintendo defender would appear. This thread was surprisingly unified for most of the day! I guess it's that much of a gently caress up this time around

Whatever Sony is doing is irrelevant, and who gives a poo poo whether it's "fair" to nintendo or not

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Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Willo567 posted:

I think the situation with MM2 annoys me so much because of the fact that people are making such a big deal out of this, compared to every other time online on a Nintendo system has been mediocre.

Meanwhile, you have poo poo like this going on the PS4, and Sony making bullshit excuses such as " "We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base."

https://wccftech.com/wargroove-dev-sony-denied-crossplay/

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-13-sony-defends-decision-to-block-cross-play-with-xbox-one-and-nintendo-switch

People complain about Nintendo's online every time a game that uses it comes out, because it's bad.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
I will defend Nintendo in that Super Mario Bros. 3 is worth $20 a year.

The bad online is a bonus.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

Willo567 posted:

I think the situation with MM2 annoys me so much because of the fact that people are making such a big deal out of this, compared to every other time online on a Nintendo system has been mediocre.

Meanwhile, you have poo poo like this going on the PS4, and Sony making bullshit excuses such as " "We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base."

https://wccftech.com/wargroove-dev-sony-denied-crossplay/

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-13-sony-defends-decision-to-block-cross-play-with-xbox-one-and-nintendo-switch

I mean, yes, it would be nice if Sony would be honest and just say that they're pushing back on cross-play because it would give their competitors a leg-up in a race they're winning, but we all know that wouldn't end well and that has nothing to do with Nintendo online services consistently being complete rear end anyway.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Mega64 posted:

I will defend Nintendo in that Super Mario Bros. 3 is worth $20 a year.

The bad online is a bonus.

You mean the game that I got at a garage sale for 50 cents well over 20 years ago?

The one my phone can run for free?

Yes...that checks out

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Now this is where the fun begins

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!

Len posted:

You mean the game that I got at a garage sale for 50 cents well over 20 years ago?

The one my phone can run for free?

Yes...that checks out

Ah poo poo here comes the msrp argument again

I personally don't care for the nes VC but couldn't resist paying the dumb entry price for mhgu online shienanigans

bushisms.txt
May 26, 2004

Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.


I could see an argument for Nintendo getting *more* blowback than the other 3 in certain regards, but that's because Nintendo makes good games people want to play. I'd rather they get yelled at so we get changes, like Mario tennis finally getting online doubles and full sets. Online and Nintendo is the neverending monkeys paw wish. Like, Arms has the best fighting game lobby system created, too bad it forces you to play minigames more than the actual game.

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
The thing that sucks about this specifically is that in the latest direct they showcased how playing online would look and it looked super fun and by design Mario Maker is one of those games that has a sense of community around it so people automatically started thinking of ways they could design fun levels to play with their (online) friends and then two weeks later Nintendo is like "oh, about that..."

I feel like if there was no online multiplayer at all people would be more accepting than whatever this is.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
I'm sorry if I come across as a fanboy. Maybe part of me is a fanboy, and I need to stop it. Nintendo's online is the crappiest out of all the companies, and it should be free.

I still think MM2 is gonna be great, but the random online is a blemish, and one that needs to be patched. I just think it's dumb to let that be a deciding factor in whether or not to get the game.

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!
Fwiw I'll probably still pick it up, but that's because nintendo hasn't made something I want to play in a good long while now. Good thing ports of old games in portable format make me horny

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

This thread needs to be rebooted swiftly and without mercy

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Based on the scientific process of a quick Google search and no fact-checking whatsoever, Super Mario Bros. 3 adjusted for inflation would cost like $100 today so buying five years of Nintendo Switch Online is equal to buying SMB3 in 1990.

Now factor in all the other NES games on there, and you're saving thousands of dollars. Therefore, Nintendo Switch Online is clearly a better deal than Playstation Plus.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.

Mega64 posted:

Based on the scientific process of a quick Google search and no fact-checking whatsoever, Super Mario Bros. 3 adjusted for inflation would cost like $100 today so buying five years of Nintendo Switch Online is equal to buying SMB3 in 1990.

Now factor in all the other NES games on there, and you're saving thousands of dollars. Therefore, Nintendo Switch Online is clearly a better deal than Playstation Plus.

That NES service is the first thing they need to change. loving bullshit that they can't do more than three games a month

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

You're a chump if you re-up your Switch online sub. Not a chance I'm paying for another year.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


KingSlime posted:

Ah poo poo here comes the msrp argument again

I personally don't care for the nes VC but couldn't resist paying the dumb entry price for mhgu online shienanigans

It's a dumb argument I just personally find paying any amount of money for NES games is not for me because if I really wanted to play them I would just get out my actual NES.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



Tender Bender posted:

People complain about Nintendo's online every time a game that uses it comes out, because it's bad.

It's great for Paladins, Smite, Rocket League, Mario Kart 8 DX, Splatoon 2, Tetris 99, and tons of other games. It seems to only be bad for Smash? Maybe I'm just lucky?

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Switch Online is so bad that Golf Story doesn't even support it.

bushisms.txt
May 26, 2004

Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.


I'm just gonna stack a few vouchers and hope something comes along besides MUA3 that I want to play.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Takoluka posted:

It's great for Paladins, Smite, Rocket League, Mario Kart 8 DX, Splatoon 2, Tetris 99, and tons of other games. It seems to only be bad for Smash? Maybe I'm just lucky?

you fool, you had to pay almost two whole dollars a month to play all those online games!

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Pablo Nergigante posted:

This thread needs to be rebooted swiftly and without mercy

How about closed then the new one gets brutally closed right after

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Wamdoodle posted:

How about closed then the new one gets brutally closed right after

Sounds like a plan.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

If I remember what happened last time y'all need to start posting a lot of Bowsette, that'll do it.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Ps+ is worth whatever it costs because it introduced me to GOTYAY Broforce, which you can also buy on the eshop.

bushisms.txt
May 26, 2004

Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.


https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/status/1081965364366532614

Lol

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

lol

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
I think what is particularly grating about the MM2 online stuff is that there is no reason Nintendo can't let you play with friends. It's not like a technical limitation or a bunch of more work for them, it's ostensibly to protect leader boards which is about the lamest excuse you could come up with.

Weedle
May 31, 2006




YOURFRIEND posted:

Kotaku has an office overlooking times square? What the gently caress?

They’re owned by Univision now. I’m sure they have some sweet office space.

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!
Pretty sure they actually generate revenue unlike SA

They're still garbage but it's not that surprising imo, a lot of lovely blog companies are based out of major metro areas with slick prominent office locations

J-Spot
May 7, 2002

Popete posted:

I think what is particularly grating about the MM2 online stuff is that there is no reason Nintendo can't let you play with friends. It's not like a technical limitation or a bunch of more work for them, it's ostensibly to protect leader boards which is about the lamest excuse you could come up with.

What even is the leaderboard going to track? Number of wins? That would just come down to whoever has the most time on their hands just like the 100 Mario leaderboards. Who cares?

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

J-Spot posted:

What even is the leaderboard going to track? Number of wins? That would just come down to whoever has the most time on their hands just like the 100 Mario leaderboards. Who cares?

Speed records I imagine. But like who cares about the integrity of that?

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
I'm afraid that Nintendo's E3 stream will be nothing but filled with comments about MM2, if the responses to this Tweet are anything to go by

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1133447849566515200

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

J-Spot posted:

What even is the leaderboard going to track? Number of wins? That would just come down to whoever has the most time on their hands just like the 100 Mario leaderboards. Who cares?
There's apparently ELO when playing online that unlocks cosmetics for your guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPi-u0D8sQ4&t=833s

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Make Nintendo make Marios Mario together in Mario Maker.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Seems like an easy solution for Nintendo would just be to have friends playing together not count for leaderboards, or have it be on a separate leaderboard.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Takoluka posted:

It's great for Paladins, Smite, Rocket League, Mario Kart 8 DX, Splatoon 2, Tetris 99, and tons of other games. It seems to only be bad for Smash? Maybe I'm just lucky?

In Splatoon 2 aren't you blocked from queuing into turf war with your friends, and isn't all chat handled through the phone app?

SirBukkake
Aug 24, 2006
Idk some black dude
"Nintendo fans, we heard your call and we're going to do our best to provide you with online multiplayer with friends. See you when Super Mario Maker launches June 28. 2021!"

I wonder they announced the online thing to soften the blow when we find out the new Pokémon game can't be played docked.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.

SirBukkake posted:

"Nintendo fans, we heard your call and we're going to do our best to provide you with online multiplayer with friends. See you when Super Mario Maker launches June 28. 2021!"

I know you're joking, but I do have a feeling that they're going to delay it by a month due to all of the backlash

I know they could patch it, but is it really something they can implement within a month? Has the game gone gold already?

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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Willo567 posted:

I know you're joking, but I do have a feeling that they're going to delay it by a month due to all of the backlash

they're not going to do this when they can easily patch it in a month later instead

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