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Niwrad posted:Why is the House an issue? Don't Democrats own a huge advantage? The House bill passed first, and included non-medical homegrows and different ways of dealing with convicted criminal offenders than the Senate bill that passed tonight. So now the Senate bill has to be reconciled with the House bill, but I don't see that being a big deal.
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The bill the passed the house already wasn't really about weed, weed was added as a senate amendment to a house bill that was originally a pawnbroker bill that passed waaaaaaaaay back in April. So it's being brought for a concurrence vote as an entirely different, way more substantial piece of legislation. There will be debate, maybe as much as we saw with the RHA and Fair Tax. http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1438&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=115810&SessionID=108&GA=101 The real legislation, which was a shell bill at first and then filled with language crafted by Sen. Steans and Rep. Cassidy was SB7: http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=7&GAID=15&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=113579&SessionID=108&GA=101 However, the challenge in the house is steep because earlier in the session a resolution (http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=157&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HR&LegId=120713&SessionID=108&GA=101) to slow down recreational cannabis gained the support of a majority of members, 60 reps who could vote yes on it if it were called to the floor. But I doubt it's going to be, because that would be a humiliating defeat for the governor on this big campaign promise. Not to mention, Madigan has said he supports the bill. Plus, a lot of those democratic co-sponsors to the resolution to slow down recreational marijuana legislation are wishy washy, and very likely political in nature. They want to be able to tell the senior citizens of their district who are up in arms about weed that they tried to slow it down but what're ya gonna do? So you've got 20 or so democrats who got on there, including one (Carol Ammons) who has previously sponsored her own legalization bill. There's not a snowball's chance in hell she isn't going to vote yes. Not to mention there are a handful of likely republican supporters in the chamber. However, expungement is a big issue for the black caucus and republicans. But I think the fact that they negotiated down the expungement thing was specifically to get republicans to break ranks. It's not a done deal. I'm kind of nervous because who knows what can happen in this wacky state? But we'll find out in a day or two. NomChompsky fucked around with this message at 02:07 on May 30, 2019 |
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May 30, 2019 02:02
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Ugh, thanks for the clarification. I can't stand Madigan but I'm rooting for his might right now.
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May 30, 2019 02:54
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If not Madigan's Money, then JB's Money. Madigan came out in support of the fair tax and recreational marijuana way back in November, just after the election. Right after JB donated $7 million dollars to his PAC. 
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May 30, 2019 03:19
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Listen if the billionaire wants to bribe some people to vote for a progressive income tax I'm fine with that
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May 30, 2019 04:06
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Hey if this goes into effect and I can buy recreational weed in IL at the start of 2020, then I probably won't drive to Michigan in December of 2019 to pick up a bunch of their legal weed.
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TMMadman posted:Hey if this goes into effect and I can buy recreational weed in IL at the start of 2020, then I probably won't drive to Michigan in December of 2019 to pick up a bunch of their legal weed. Allie toon of disgruntled Illinoisians abandoning the state for Michigan weed.
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May 30, 2019 15:32
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With the Republican changes in the Senate bill I guess we'll see if Madigan will pull a MacAuliffe and sign pardons for every non-violent marijuana offender that would've qualified under the initial bill.
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TMMadman posted:Hey if this goes into effect and I can buy recreational weed in IL at the start of 2020, then I probably won't drive to Michigan in December of 2019 to pick up a bunch of their legal weed. I don't know whether this is true or not but I've heard among the chatter that existing medical dispensaries have been assured of advanced licenses to provide recreational product as early as this summer sometime but do not quote me on that.
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NomChompsky posted:I don't know whether this is true or not but I've heard among the chatter that existing medical dispensaries have been assured of advanced licenses to provide recreational product as early as this summer sometime but do not quote me on that.
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https://twitter.com/jmetr22b/status/1134235150290706433 e: also Lightfoot says he should resign (I am surprised she hadn't said this already)
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He should resign. He should also climb into the casing of a torpedo so we can launch him to the bottom of the lake.
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I'm still utterly flabbergasted that he was reelected by such a wide margin while under a federal probe. I can't decide if people genuinely didn't know or didn't care and I hate both answers.
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Did his decades of corruption negatively impact his ward?
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Big Black Dick posted:I'm still utterly flabbergasted that he was reelected by such a wide margin while under a federal probe. I can't decide if people genuinely didn't know or didn't care and I hate both answers. I'd lean don't care. There was less 29.4% turnout in that ward vs. 35.5% for the entire city, so below average. Burke is probably great at turning out his people, and when you only need to turn out a few thousand, it isn't that hard.
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Cannabis legalization brought to the floor first thing this morning, Republicans asked for an hour caucus. So we'll know sometime this morning re legalization.
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May 31, 2019 15:33
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Hmmm good analogy, eggs are far better cooked than in the shell.
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That's actually Ronald Reagan's brain.
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May 31, 2019 19:38
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It passed , 3 Rs said yes, ten ish dems said no/present/no vote. Special session for the weekend for capital bill (raising gas tax a lot) and budget, most likely
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May 31, 2019 20:55
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Sounds like sports betting might go through too????? If so, JB is good and cool and so is the state of Illinois now.
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May 31, 2019 21:26
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This session has been wild, it would be nice if it didn't all have to wait for the week that the session ends but getting good poo poo done is getting good poo poo done 
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May 31, 2019 21:27
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May 31, 2019 21:28
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So weird to have a government doing poo poo. Even if it's just because a billionaire governor is bribing politicians for votes.
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Niwrad posted:So weird to have a government doing poo poo. Even if it's just because a billionaire governor is bribing politicians for votes. Right? At least he's using his ill-gotten gains for good instead of evil.
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Niwrad posted:So weird to have a government doing poo poo. Even if it's just because a billionaire governor is bribing politicians for votes. And it's doubly weird that it's happening at the state level as well as cook county/chicago. It's like I've woken up in some Bizarro Illinois in which good government isn't an anomaly.
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Buckle up for a JB presidential run. I've been saying for the entire session if he manages to push through a bunch of progressive reforms in this term there is no fuckin' way we are not going to see him pop up in the next big election (not 2020 obviously) touting the "I'm the progressive billionaire" line. Provided the Illinois Governor curse doesn't get him, in which case he will go to jail. Also; all the other dem. reps who opposed it put up reasonably cautionary token resistance to cannabis, but Rep. DeLuca is a loving idiot. I feel so bad for whatever page had to take that pan and egg and carry it out of the chamber and around under the dome. The other staffers probably ran his rear end up a flag pole. NomChompsky fucked around with this message at 23:37 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 23:33
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NomChompsky posted:Buckle up for a JB presidential run. I've been saying for the entire session if he manages to push through a bunch of progressive reforms in this term there is no fuckin' way we are not going to see him pop up in the next big election touting the "I'm the progressive billionaire" line.
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Moylan is not well known for reading from prepared statements. But this is oddly one of the issues where he breaks with the party, otherwise he's a solid rubber stamp on abortion and guns and all that business.
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TMMadman posted:Hey if this goes into effect and I can buy recreational weed in IL at the start of 2020, then I probably won't drive to Michigan in December of 2019 to pick up a bunch of their legal weed. got to shovel that money into the roaring money engine down in Springfield to make sure the public services don't collapse! 
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Oracle posted:With the Republican changes in the Senate bill I guess we'll see if Madigan will pull a MacAuliffe and sign pardons for every non-violent marijuana offender that would've qualified under the initial bill. so is this kind of bureaucratic poo poo going to get in the way of expungement? I saw they are going to use some of the money from legalization to facilitate the process. . . edit saw there might be 700,000+ people eligible Squalid fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jun 1, 2019 |
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Squalid posted:so is this kind of bureaucratic poo poo going to get in the way of expungement? I saw they are going to use some of the money from legalization to facilitate the process. . . The whole point of the bureaucratic poo poo was to get in the way of expungement.
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mastershakeman posted:Isn't moylan a Dem? He was an idiot Not as much of an idiot as DeLuca. https://twitter.com/WCIA3Mark/status/1134510373254639621?s=19
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The X-man cometh posted:Not as much of an idiot as DeLuca. "Even though the bill passed, my conscious is clear because I made a point while objecting it," DeLuca thought as he cracked open his 5th beer of the night. Then he wondered if he should have picked up more than a 12 pack because it was still early and he was mighty thirsty after telling his fellow representatives all about the evils of a dangerous drug.
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dominator posted:This session has been wild, it would be nice if it didn't all have to wait for the week that the session ends but getting good poo poo done is getting good poo poo done It's like the trade deadline, gotta have high drama
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Republican solutions to the budget situation are....a bunch of tax cuts https://twitter.com/AmandaVinicky/status/1134637470077898752
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Badger of Basra posted:Republican solutions to the budget situation are....a bunch of tax cuts The republican party of Illinois is without a doubt one of the most incompetent political organizations in the entire country and literally cruised to victory in 2014 on a national tide of idiot horseshit. Almost none of the accomplishments they have gained since the 1990s have been uniquely theirs, and they are utterly at the mercy of their own incompetence.
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Also I tried to call my state rep and state senator to tell them to shift money in the capital bill from roads to public transit. I had to leave a message for my senator, but someone picked up in my rep's office. I told them my spiel and then asked if they needed my address or name or anything and they were like "nope thanks, bye!" Very weird.
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