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May 28, 2019 06:20
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May 28, 2019 06:34
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sum posted:Aye, Nay, Aye, Nay feature not a bug. battle cruisers get better engagement types and chances, and at 23 knots you can reclassify them as BBs a few years later when fire control advances.
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May 28, 2019 07:53
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Aye, Nay for dirty metagaming, Aye, Nay
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May 28, 2019 08:17
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Aye Aye Aye Nay Loving the thread 
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May 28, 2019 08:49
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May 28, 2019 11:28
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 Vitse-Admiral Bacarrudsky. Commanding Officer, Herring Procurement. Yea - Bigger ships are always better Nay - 23 knots is stupidly fast for our current battleships. We'd be building tinderboxes! Yea - More cruisers, fewer problems Yea - Glory to the Tsar!
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May 28, 2019 11:43
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Aye - bigger is better Aye - faster is better. They'll need to be bigger anyways. Nay - we only have a surplus as is by keeping our fleet so small as to embolden the foreign savages! Without more funds I cannot support this. Nay - how dare you imply that our great admiral isn't already doing this!
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May 28, 2019 13:02
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I seconded Base the Sun, shouldn't that be included as an option? Aye Aye Aye Aye Ai yai yai!
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May 28, 2019 13:06
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Grey needs to give buord the updated tech levels. lol. Also, the Blyat will make 23 knots. So we've already got one capital ship that meets the requirement of No Ship Left Behind. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 13:11 on May 28, 2019 |
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May 28, 2019 13:07
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May 28, 2019 14:32
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Yea. Nay. Yay. Nay.
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May 28, 2019 14:36
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May 28, 2019 15:33
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habeasdorkus posted:Grey needs to give buord the updated tech levels. lol. Am I missing something?
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May 28, 2019 17:09
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Not really, just the latest advancement made in each category and tech level.
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May 28, 2019 17:13
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habeasdorkus posted:Also, the Blyat will make 23 knots. So we've already got one capital ship that meets the requirement of No Ship Left Behind. Having all future capital ships able to operate in a squadron without sacrificing potential speed of any ship or having awkward station keeping is the primary goal of NSLB; and 23 knots is fast enough to remain viable far into the future without expensive and time consuming refits. Blyat is 23 knots, and any future capital vessel should be capable of operating in a squadron with her. As far as Metagaming goes; It's not my fault the game dev's decided that 23 knots is a Battlecruiser for *Reasons* especially considering the 2nd/3rd generation of Dreadnoughts made 23 knots. NSLB is obviously inspired by the American Standard Battleships but I feel 23 knots is more appropriate for both maximum impact in any conflict the near future, as it gives a significant tactical advantage in positioning and the ability to use secondary batteries to maximum effect; as well as the ability to disengage against sub 20 knot B and early BB adversaries while armor effectiveness is flattened (IE: the difference between 8" and 12" of armor at this point is negligible) Later on when armor levels matter and gunnery is both more accurate and effective at penetrating armor; sticking to 23 knots means we will out armor and/or outgun any faster opponent, while still maintaining a reasonable level of speed, which largely negates their advantage in positioning (IE: Being able to keep the range open doesn't matter if your target is immune to your fire, or the fire you're taking is equal to or greater than the damage you're inflicting) Large Machinery spaces are also a useful means of saving space for optional future refits; as engine technology quickly becomes more efficient, especially once oil firing is invented. and tonnage used for engine, can be repurposed for additional armor on turrets, deck armor or AA capability if we get a treaty and cannot build newer, larger ships. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 17:39 on May 28, 2019 |
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habeasdorkus posted:Not really, just the latest advancement made in each category and tech level. Oh that's my mistake, I forgot I had those in the chart lol. updated: pre:Research Area Last research Priority Levels Machinery development Basic Medium 0 Armour development Krupp armour Low 1 Fire control Basic Low 0 Subdivision and damage control Basic Low 0 Turrets and gun mountings Hydraulic recoil Medium 1 Ship design Basic Medium 0 AP Projectiles Basic Low 0 Light forces and torpedo warfare Basic High 0 Torpedo technology Imp. hydrostatic valve High 1 Submarines Basic High 0 Explosive shells Basic Low 0 Naval guns 12 inch guns Medium Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 17:32 on May 28, 2019 |
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May 28, 2019 17:27
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May 28, 2019 18:23
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May 28, 2019 19:12
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May 28, 2019 22:31
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May 28, 2019 23:15
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May 29, 2019 02:23
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Bring Your Own Battleship - Passes! No Ship Left Behind Passes by 1 vote! Commerce Protection and Anti-Protection Measures Passes! Give War Chance Fails! I am now accepting designs for Light cruisers and corvettes. each shipwright can only submit one design. Choose wisely. 
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May 29, 2019 05:10
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Do we need a new save with the current tech levels?
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May 29, 2019 05:23
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This links to part 2 when you haven't linked part 1 in here yet. 
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May 29, 2019 06:08
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First off, I'd like to thank everyone who voted for the Leave No Ship Behind Act. LOLZ Shipwrights submission for commerce raiding:  Aggressively Adequate. Reliability. Enough Range. Enough Speed. Enough Firepower to get the job done. Stringent Weight saving measures. Outfitted for Colonial Service for Peacetime Duties. A vote for this design is a vote to maximize tonnage reliably sunk vs. rubles invested. Infidelicious fucked around with this message at 07:35 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 07:29
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Bremen posted:Do we need a new save with the current tech levels? yes, and I forgot that. I'll get it up tonight when I get home from work.
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May 29, 2019 07:54
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 Failing to make a splash on their battleship submission, the Hedlunds decide to try a lower bar -- a corvette Hedlund & Son is pleased to present the Björnfälla for the consideration of the Admiralty Board.   Following the lead of the Blyat, the Björnfälla is superbly armed, with a massive battery of guns that would shred any destroyer unlucky enough to be caught in her sights. Even raiding cruisers might find themselves outgunned by her, and with her ample all-round two inch belt she can survive extended engagements with lighter craft. While she might be slightly more expensive and time-consuming to build than other designs, she is simply the premier in convoy defense. e: added profile view. Still the same design! sum fucked around with this message at 01:31 on May 30, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 08:40
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But why do the secondaries have more armor than the main guns, or even the belt? Curious design quirk.
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May 29, 2019 11:40
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kmi0pa65zkcvgha/AAADcAoppsNhSI-9n4IUId6Ya?dl=0 Here is the updated turn file.
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Lando131 posted:But why do the secondaries have more armor than the main guns, or even the belt? Curious design quirk. The belt's maxed at 2" or else it's not a corvette. I wanted her at 1500 tons to minimize the monthly cost, and I had about a hundred tons left at that displacement. I couldn't add guns (rate of fire would plummet), I couldn't add torpedoes (not legal) and I didn't want to add a half inch to the turrets (the ship would become considerably overweight) so I just dumped it all in the secondaries. In retrospect I should have probably just decreased the displacement to 1300 to bring down the build time, but I've already submitted it so eh
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 (Prince Valeryan Igorovich Urodlivyy, at a historical costume ball in St. Petersburg, circa 1899) From a transcript of a meeting between Prince Valeryan and the Admiralty, January 1901 posted:I present to you, my friends, the Andreyevna, first of the Revizor class of Light Cruisers. With this long ranged and Leave No Ship Behind compliant masterwork, we will be the terrors of the far seas, and woe to any ship that falls in its gunsights. With a broadside of eight five-inch guns, it won't matter how quick the opposition as steel rain will still find them. Likewise, the additional dozen 3" guns will chew through entire fleets of merchant ships. Should we need to engage at close range, five torpedo tubes lurk beneath the waves to surprise our foes. And if we should meet another cruiser? The 7" turrets will blow through their armor. And don't be fooled by the rated 23 knots, as my engineers tell me that the dynamic color scheme is likely to result in higher than expected speed, as they say "красные идут быстрее." habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 20:58 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 30, 2019 00:36
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I’ll have to make a bote when I get home tonight, hope I don’t miss the window
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habeasdorkus posted:
This is utterly obscene, and I mean far moreso than the garish paint job
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May 30, 2019 02:03
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I prefer to call it real good cosplay.
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May 30, 2019 02:12
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Proyekt 21202 Despite two inches of belt armor on a ship barely bigger than a destroyer, the 21202 makes 23 knots and carries 3 five inch guns - thanks to its layout, it will always be able to train two of its guns on the opponent, unless it's running away from them. It also carries a pair of lighter three inch guns on each side. Now sure, we had to cut a few corners to manage this, but I'm sure the benefits will outweigh the costs.
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A bit longer on submissions, as I'm off work with a stomach bug. (mostly cleared now, but i'm under 48 hrs quarantine by work rules.)
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I'm loving that one of the CL designs is literally outgunned by both of the KE designs submitted. We need more designs, though! C'mon, fellow shipwrights! Show me what you got!
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