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Isn't it not actually a good idea to be under a doorframe in an earthquake, unless you have no other options?
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May 30, 2019 20:42
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Al! posted:im pretty sure any ikea table would immediately collapse and crush you to death not me, my tactical reflexes allow me to dodge slow-moving heavy things like furniture i'm more concerned about framed glass-fronted artworks flying off of the walls and horizontally-stored wine bottles being shot out of their storage racks
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May 30, 2019 20:44
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Luneshot posted:Isn't it not actually a good idea to be under a doorframe in an earthquake, unless you have no other options? yeah they're not actually a structural component of residential structures, it's extremely inaccurate advice and for real the main immediate danger is things falling on you so the best place to be is underneath something during the shaking
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May 30, 2019 20:48
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Peanut Butler posted:oh lol yeah that's overkill, nobody does that except ppl with prepper brain worms
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May 30, 2019 21:12
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turn off the TV posted:why would you build a house with a basement in the midwest and not put a concrete box room in poverty
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May 30, 2019 21:14
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doorframes probably were OK back when walls were real and not just hanging drywall that you carved a rectangle into for a door
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May 30, 2019 21:16
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:get under a table, the danger is things falling or being thrown onto you like bookshelves good to know, that makes sense- like tornadoes, it seems less 'how to prepare for your whole house getting obliterated' and more 'how to prepare for the bread machine falling off the shelf and concussing u' there aren't any buildings taller than 1.5-2 stories in my neighborhood, my gut said 'just go outside to the middle of the parking lot', but my brain said 'that seems dumb' lol if we start getting stronger quakes more regularly here, pretty much half the region is built from bricks, I guess our soil's rly good for it?- I had no idea until I was a teenager that not everywhere goes bananas for building fuckin everything out of bricks weather service report came out for the KS tornado and- hey! no one died! on a 30x1 mile EF4! p good! 
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May 30, 2019 21:18
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SKULL.GIF posted:doorframes probably were OK back when walls were real and not just hanging drywall that you carved a rectangle into for a door would a lath and plaster house kill me more or less
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May 30, 2019 21:21
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Silver Nitrate posted:poverty solidarity for those living in poverty, unable to afford an extra couple thousand bucks on the houses they're paying to have built
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May 30, 2019 21:22
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storm-proof home that just shatters instantly into a fine mist any time a gust of >100mph hits it no debris no problem
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May 30, 2019 21:23
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Epic High Five posted:storm-proof home that just shatters instantly into a fine mist any time a gust of >100mph hits it why dont they just make the entire house out of hurricanes, problem solved
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May 30, 2019 21:26
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SKULL.GIF posted:doorframes probably were OK back when walls were real and not just hanging drywall that you carved a rectangle into for a door more like the adobe structures the spanish missions were made from, since the doorframe was the only part of the structure made outta bigass pieces of timber it would be the only thing standing after the rest collapsed it's advice that's literally centuries out of date
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May 30, 2019 21:26
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Al! posted:would a lath and plaster house kill me more or less looking up the seismic design requirements, shear values are sliiiightly better for gypsum lath vs gypsum board and have slightly better fastener spacing (how far apart you need to put down nails and screws to attach the wall to the not-wall) it looks like if you've got the shittier 1/2" drywall in your interior walls, it'll be marginally outperformed in a seismic event by "good" lath and plaster containing vertical joints, and will itself be outperformed by more well-constructed "good" 5/8" drywall esp if it's crappy lath without vertical joints. basically crappy lath beats crappy drywall, good drywall beats good lath but that's all just splitting hairs, neither can be used as seismic-resisting shear walls in the more hardcore earthquake areas, so they shouldn't be the deciding factor on whether your house collapses
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May 30, 2019 21:50
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what if I live in a big gay dome
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May 30, 2019 21:52
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just live in a tornado
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May 30, 2019 21:52
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:looking up the seismic design requirements, shear values are sliiiightly better for gypsum lath vs gypsum board and have slightly better fastener spacing (how far apart you need to put down nails and screws to attach the wall to the not-wall) oh yeah, when the big one hits im dead no matter where i live probably
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May 30, 2019 21:53
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essentially once it hits a giant tsunami of debris is supposed to wipe out everything west of the willamette river, i have nightmares about it from time to time
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May 30, 2019 21:54
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Epic High Five posted:what if I live in a big gay dome i think perhaps you would be safe from tornadoes in the land of Xanadu, as it is not subject to such weather
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May 30, 2019 21:55
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Epic High Five posted:what if I live in a big gay dome you must mean shotcrete because there's nothing gay about geodesics they perform great. geodesics are excellent too and easier to repair
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May 30, 2019 21:59
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:you must mean shotcrete because there's nothing gay about geodesics wow are you implying that I was call something gay to demean it? leave me and my dome's cupboard full of top secret gay agenda manuals alone!
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May 30, 2019 22:05
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Al! posted:im pretty sure any ikea table would immediately collapse and crush you to death CORONER: Looks like this guy had... a bad ikea
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May 30, 2019 22:09
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Addamere posted:just live in a tornado 
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May 30, 2019 22:20
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Die 13 1/2 Leben des Käpt'n Blaubär! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05uYOWTO6KI
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May 30, 2019 22:42
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turn off the TV posted:solidarity for those living in poverty, unable to afford an extra couple thousand bucks on the houses they're paying to have built lol people live in RVs here
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May 30, 2019 23:21
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Silver Nitrate posted:lol people live in RVs here i feel as though the overlap of "person living in an RV" and "person paying a construction company to build them a house" is not a whole lot
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May 30, 2019 23:58
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Peanut Butler posted:Die 13 1/2 Leben des Käpt'n Blaubär! walter moers is truly incredible
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May 31, 2019 01:07
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tornado that hit me yesterday was rated EF-0, because there's nothing in our town to destroy basically and we were right on the start of its path
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May 31, 2019 02:07
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turn off the TV posted:i feel as though the overlap of "person living in an RV" and "person paying a construction company to build them a house" is not a whole lot only one that comes to mind is Alan Partridge
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May 31, 2019 02:41
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Epic High Five posted:ya that basement or bathroom stuff is just like fuckin desk drills to protect yourself from nukes - pure theater to keep people calm. If a 'nader's gonna kill ya there's nothing you can do to stop it from happening, it's all sheer luck Theres actually data that being behind pretty much any sort of cover enhances the survival chances from a nuke. Has to do with the radioactive events limited timeframe i think. But yeah desk could help
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May 31, 2019 03:14
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fortunately i keep my desk stocked with graphite and heavy water
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May 31, 2019 03:31
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some native american tribes will pay for shelters to be built for progeny who are part of the diaspora, presumably so that the heritage stays safe while the crackers who spent money at tribal businesses vanish into the air
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May 31, 2019 05:33
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 things like that built to code, which in part means being anchored hella deep into the earth in comparison to standard foundations, are legit
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May 31, 2019 05:35
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Epic High Five posted:ya that basement or bathroom stuff is just like fuckin desk drills to protect yourself from nukes - pure theater to keep people calm. If a 'nader's gonna kill ya there's nothing you can do to stop it from happening, it's all sheer luck do you really think zero people have survived a tornado that they wouldn’t have otherwise by going into their basement?
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May 31, 2019 17:55
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Epic High Five posted:storm-proof home that just shatters instantly into a fine mist any time a gust of >100mph hits it they all laughed at me when i said i made my house out of formed asbestos and now they're all dead(from being downwind of my house)
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May 31, 2019 18:27
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Bulgakov posted:
Can a tornado remove a standard foundation? I dont think ive ever seen it referenced though im sure its probably possible in an extreme
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May 31, 2019 18:30
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ZeusCannon posted:Can a tornado remove a standard foundation? I dont think ive ever seen it referenced though im sure its probably possible in an extreme one of the damage indicators for an EF5 is “foundation wiped clean” so I don’t think so?
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May 31, 2019 18:33
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ZeusCannon posted:Can a tornado remove a standard foundation? I dont think ive ever seen it referenced though im sure its probably possible in an extreme Generally no. The windspeed is only usually around 300mph in an F5, so it can do whatever 300mph winds can do... Which to concrete structures is not much besides blowing out windows and probably killing anyone inside with pressure vacuum/shrapnel/sucking them out. That said, with climate change being what it is, I would not be totally surprised if we saw an actual F6 in our lifetime.  Still the windspeeds would be less than half that of a nuclear blast, so build bomb shelters! You'll probably need them for nuclear war anyways.
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May 31, 2019 19:48
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This book follows a bunch of stormchasers in the 2030's waiting to catch the first F6 in an ecologically devastated united states and its amazing:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Weather_(Sterling_novel)
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Jun 1, 2019 00:57
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if it keeps on rainin~quote:BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED infrastructure weak 
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Turn around, don't drown
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