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Haha JFC this place I’m interviewing for tomorrow has terrible health insurance. $375 per two weeks for a couple for a $3,000 total deductible, $10k out of pocket, $50 for urgent care/basic specialists, 20% coinsurance on everything that doesn’t have a copay. Literally twice as expensive as my current place for worse coverage. Which is already worse than the place I was before. And their HDHP doesn’t even cover 100% after the deductible like all the other ones I’ve seen. I need to look into the CO Medicaid buy-in for working adults with disabilities, you pay a sliding scale amount monthly for individual Medicaid coverage if you have one or more of a certain list of qualifying conditions.
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Terrible health insurance is a deal killer for potential companies to work for. I don't even pay 375 a month pretax for my family to be covered by a PPO+ 90/10 plan with a 500 dollar deductible. Granted my company pays like 75% of the total premium though. It's stupid the US hasn't figured out a better healthcare solution yet. (Here comes Clam Down.....)
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May 30, 2019 18:50
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Our urgent care co-pay is $70 and it has achieved the intended result that I just don't really get stuff checked out unless it's debilitating, pretty much.
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May 30, 2019 18:57
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My urgent care co-pay is $25, and I have a huge number of things that are just 100% covered.
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May 30, 2019 19:15
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Management is setting up our new IT teams across the new combined company.... and they're taking an interesting approach. The goal is to have 50% membership from each company on each team. Like they're marrying between houses in GoT or something. I'm also moving out of operations to architecture. It's a brand new team that didn't exist before, so really no clue what we'll be doing. It could be good, but it'll be an adjustment for sure.
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May 30, 2019 19:43
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skipdogg posted:I started out at a company like this. Beer Fridge, ping pong table, catered Friday Happy Hours, super relaxed private company... past the startup stage, but still small enough that we didn't really have investors breathing down our neck. We could have a couple bad quarters to invest in future products without anyone having a fit. Closed 2 weeks during Christmas holiday, generous PTO, unlimited sick. 0 deductible cadillac health insurance plan 100% paid by the company. (This was 15 years ago). Right before the bubble I got hired in at a company were all the "executives" were 25 years old or younger. The CEO would have "$1000 nights" which meant taking a group out on a Tuesday night to a strip club and he would lay out $1,000 in cash on the table. No one could leave until it was all spent. That's fun until he tried to turn it into a weekly if not twice weekly event. Other owners of the company told him to knock it off because when the entire team is hungover the next day, nothing gets done. Then the Bubble burst of our sales went down a bit. CEO borrowed money from his dad to keep the doors open a little longer. CEO's trophy wife leaves him, sensing the free ride is about over, which sends him spiraling. He's eventually bought out by other execs and our President, an actual CPA, is made new CEO. He boots most of the other executives since they are making huge salaries but aren't actually doing anything. We ran slim for years. We had fun but we didn't have pinball machines, pool tables, etc. We soon bought out a competitor and while inventorying their offices found they had lots of table games, nerf etc. Our new CEO commented that "this is why we are buying them and not the other way around".
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May 30, 2019 19:43
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I never understood the allure of loving arcade cabinets and pool tables at a work. Like yeah it's nice to have a rec room but how much value is that actually adding to company morale that couldn't be done with actually running the company correctly?
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May 30, 2019 19:51
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Just give me inexpensive, good health insurance, a decent wage, and free coffee and I'm a happy employee. The other poo poo is just smoke and mirrors.
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May 30, 2019 19:52
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Vargatron posted:I never understood the allure of loving arcade cabinets and pool tables at a work. Like yeah it's nice to have a rec room but how much value is that actually adding to company morale that couldn't be done with actually running the company correctly?
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May 30, 2019 19:53
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Bonzo posted:Right before the bubble I got hired in at a company were all the "executives" were 25 years old or younger. The CEO would have "$1000 nights" which meant taking a group out on a Tuesday night to a strip club and he would lay out $1,000 in cash on the table. No one could leave until it was all spent. That's fun until he tried to turn it into a weekly if not twice weekly event. Other owners of the company told him to knock it off because when the entire team is hungover the next day, nothing gets done. The first bit of this sounds eerily like an old coworker. He got lured away to work for a well funded startup making "Facebook, but for weed" as the head of all engineering. This already should have, uh, been concerning but he was tantalized by the total freedom to build the platform and team from the ground up, plus the siren song of ~* equity *~ so he jumped. The "executives" were a bunch of kids who lived in a ludicrous penthouse in Denver and spent all their time throwing lavish parties. The codebase he inherited was a total dumpster fire. Within like 6 months he had come back to work with us at his old job again.
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Vargatron posted:I never understood the allure of loving arcade cabinets and pool tables at a work. Like yeah it's nice to have a rec room but how much value is that actually adding to company morale that couldn't be done with actually running the company correctly? Some folks care about that stuff. We have an office of Software Engineers that get really pissy when we run out of fancy coffee beans and greek yogurt, or their 8K espresso machine breaks. I don't care about any of that stuff, but there are workers that do. Equity is great, but should never come at the cost of salary or benefits. You can't count on it. I work with some guys that used to work for a company called Motive, which IPO'd back in the day. The first day they were paper millionaires, by the time they could sell their shares they were all underwater. skipdogg fucked around with this message at 20:06 on May 30, 2019 |
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May 30, 2019 20:00
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skipdogg posted:Some folks care about that stuff. We have an office of Software Engineers that get really pissy when we run out of fancy coffee beans and greek yogurt, or their 8K espresso machine breaks.
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May 30, 2019 20:02
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Coffee quality is a different issue than a Mortal Kombat 2 cabinet in the break room.
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May 30, 2019 20:05
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skipdogg posted:Terrible health insurance is a deal killer for potential companies to work for. I don't even pay 375 a month pretax for my family to be covered by a PPO+ 90/10 plan with a 500 dollar deductible. Granted my company pays like 75% of the total premium though. My last company paid 80% so as a couple I was paying like $160 a month (after a wellness program discount for not being an obese smoker with heart problems) for a $1,000 deductible ($500/ea) 90/10 with $15 therapist copays although it went up to $1500/750ea and $20 copays the next year. I’m not going to dismiss the company immediately, but when it comes to salary negotiations I’m going to make sure to explain that their premiums alone would be costing me $5k per year compared to where I currently work. Except that it wouldn’t because I’m getting divorced so I would be paying significantly less and odds are I will still try to get in on the Medicaid buy-in because the premium would be something like $130/mo post-tax and would turn my $100/mo on prescriptions into $8/mo. I kind of want to ask to see the formulary, see if they’re a company like Kaiser that flat out won’t cover half the name brands out there even when there’s no generic. I once worked at a hospital where there was no office coffee machine, you had to go to the cafeteria and pay $2 for a cup of what could be merely gross if you put six pumps of creamer and four Splenda packets in it. 22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 20:20 on May 30, 2019 |
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May 30, 2019 20:14
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skipdogg posted:Terrible health insurance is a deal killer for potential companies to work for. I don't even pay 375 a month pretax for my family to be covered by a PPO+ 90/10 plan with a 500 dollar deductible. Granted my company pays like 75% of the total premium though. Exsqueeze me, I was out enjoying my union-mandated lunch
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CLAM DOWN posted:Exsqueeze me, I was out enjoying my union-mandated lunch How do you afford lunch with your 445% canadollar tax rate
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May 30, 2019 21:58
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If any employer has a "fun environment" the first thing I do and ideally during the interview is carefully look at the pool table, ping pong table, foosball, etc. for a layer of dozen. Nearly every time, there's a thin layer of dust meaning that no one actually has anytime to actually take a break.Vulture Culture posted:Coffee is literally a performance enhancing drug, how bad does a company have to gently caress up to economize in this area I've seen quite a few large employers from divisions of General Electric to Rackspace charging employees for coffee. And coffee that wasn't even good.
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May 30, 2019 22:00
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No free coffee? That's a dealbreaker.
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Coincidentally, I just came out of a lunch and learn meeting where the speaker in no uncertain terms said "Never take away coffee"
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May 30, 2019 22:23
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We had no free coffee for the first 15 years I worked here. Then they gave us free coffee, and in the same meeting hosed over our health insurance massive amounts.
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May 30, 2019 22:26
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Yeah I'm good with just getting my own coffee and being paid an extra $30,000/year instead. I've seen how other people make coffee. It's disgusting.
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May 30, 2019 22:27
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Methanar posted:gently caress lol
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That good?
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Update to health insurance for that company: I just realized that it costs literally 3.5x-4.5x in premiums for the employee + spouse as it does for just the employee.  In an actuarial sense aren’t married people actually likely to be healthier, or did I pull that out of my rear end? I bet the company pays some flat amount plus a percentage rather than straight percentage-based. $100/mo for a HDHP for an individual isn’t terrible, but then it turns into $430 for a couple or $600 for a family.
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Vargatron posted:I never understood the allure of loving arcade cabinets and pool tables at a work. Like yeah it's nice to have a rec room but how much value is that actually adding to company morale that couldn't be done with actually running the company correctly? Cargo cult
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Update to health insurance for that company: I just realized that it costs literally 3.5x-4.5x in premiums for the employee + spouse as it does for just the employee. My last job started doing this within the last year or so I was there, basically they wanted people to get on their spouses insurance plans if they were available, that was the idea behind it.
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Docjowles posted:The first bit of this sounds eerily like an old coworker. He got lured away to work for a well funded startup making "Facebook, but for weed" as the head of all engineering. This already should have, uh, been concerning but he was tantalized by the total freedom to build the platform and team from the ground up, plus the siren song of ~* equity *~ so he jumped. Was this Weedmaps? Cause it sounds an awful lot like a talk I just heard from the Weedmaps folks.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:A 23 year old who is about to work 85 hours a week doesn't understand that a pool table and an on-site chef are useless. They don't actually work 85 hours a week. They spend 85 hours a week at the office. It's a big difference. They're new grads in a new city with no (local) friends. Their entire identity and social circle is at work. They stay late playing board games and ping pong and drinking beer. They definitely spend more than 40 hours per week in front of their work computer, but it's not really accurate to act as if time spent at the office is time spent working, at least in the case of new grads.
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Methanar posted:Help im trapped dangerously close to CLAMDOWN Get oot of my city eh
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Also if you were here longer I'd 100% get you drunk you silly leaf raker
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I got called out on my pronunciation on the word 'about' during my interview. I've been called out several times now over the last 2 years for sounding Canadian. I was told that its very subtle but you can hear it. Other than that the california people agreed that I had no other distinguishing accent features. Their previous experiences with Canadians were the Quebecois. Methanar fucked around with this message at 03:39 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 03:36
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Don't tent shame me
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Bonzo posted:Right before the bubble I got hired in at a company were all the "executives" were 25 years old or younger. The CEO would have "$1000 nights" which meant taking a group out on a Tuesday night to a strip club and he would lay out $1,000 in cash on the table. No one could leave until it was all spent. That's fun until he tried to turn it into a weekly if not twice weekly event. Other owners of the company told him to knock it off because when the entire team is hungover the next day, nothing gets done. Reminds me of my half-brother, who made a killing in the Romanian Petrochemical industry to buy a small yachet and a big-rear end mansion, complete with a home theater room and a bowling alley in the basement. Anyway, long story short, he now lives in Colorado, cannibalized his child's college savings, and is in several hundred thousand dollars of debt, including to family members. He insists this is just a temporary obstacle to future success. There's got a be a name for that kind of stupidly optimistic businessman. E: forget few factors of ten in the debt Xanderkish fucked around with this message at 13:34 on May 31, 2019 |
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Thanks Ants posted:Cargo cult Yes. So much so that the owner of the small MSP got an emulator cabinet to setup in the office to “be cool”. Of course people got talked to if they actually used it for more than 5 mins. Because billable hours and such.
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Xanderkish posted:several hundred dollars of debt
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Vulture Culture posted:goodness Whoops, I meant hundred thousand.
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Internet Explorer posted:Was this Weedmaps? Cause it sounds an awful lot like a talk I just heard from the Weedmaps folks. The site was called MassRoots. And I'm surprised to find it still exists, though it seems to have pivoted into a typical ad-and-referral-link driven content factory. When my buddy went over there the site was pretty much literally a copy/paste of Facebook and definitely trying to be a huge social network player lol. Methanar posted:I got called out on my pronunciation on the word 'about' during my interview. For some reason a lot of shows my kids watch (like Daniel Tiger) are at least partially produced in Canada. Once I noticed the slight accent on some of the voice actors I cannot unhear it and it drives me nuts. Docjowles fucked around with this message at 14:41 on May 31, 2019 |
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Bonzo posted:Right before the bubble I got hired in at a company were all the "executives" were 25 years old or younger. The CEO would have "$1000 nights" which meant taking a group out on a Tuesday night to a strip club and he would lay out $1,000 in cash on the table. No one could leave until it was all spent. That's fun until he tried to turn it into a weekly if not twice weekly event. Other owners of the company told him to knock it off because when the entire team is hungover the next day, nothing gets done. Did you at least keep the office toys when you bought them out? Not to say I don't respect the CEO's remarks and general strategy, just that when you've got spoils of war...
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