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| Yes - We'll fall out no deal in June |
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51 | 6.98% |
| Yes - Some kind of deal will be in place by October |
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| Yes - Technical Brexit (EU Flag has a gold fringe) |
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| No - There'll be a general election |
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| No - There'll be a #PeoplesVote |
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| No - Queen's dugs will stop it |
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| Other - Bah Gawd is that Sinn Fein's Music? |
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ronya posted:it's complex, it seems Thanks for that, interesting. EDIT: 345 - three numbers in sequence.
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kustomkarkommando posted:Have i stumbled into a mirror universe where everything is upside down and the left attack liberals as idealists motivated by protest politics unwilling to make tough pragmatic decisions that seek to find a cente ground A portion of the thread have become a brexit death cult where they think it's bad but it must be appeased lest it devour the universe. Or something. And yeah they think destroying Labour's chances is worth it.
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May 31, 2019 16:45
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Bundy posted:Easy there Nige Do you want black flecks turning up in your white mash?
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May 31, 2019 16:55
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Dead Goon posted:Do you want black flecks turning up in your white mash? Yeah? Visible seasoning is cool and good.
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May 31, 2019 16:57
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Random chunks of pepper in stuff isn't so good though.
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May 31, 2019 16:58
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Darth Walrus posted:Yeah? Visible seasoning is cool and good. I like white pepper in mash, it has more of a kick too.
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May 31, 2019 16:59
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throw dried chili flakes in there
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May 31, 2019 16:59
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ronya posted:throw dried chili flakes in there Go gently caress yourself.
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May 31, 2019 17:02
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Mustard mash Garlic mash
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May 31, 2019 17:02
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I often add a generous fistful of saffron.
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Hey who remembers 2010 and stuff like this? Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 17:03
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I admire people that can eat spicy food. I'm weak and brown sauce is approaching the upper level of my spice tolerance range.
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May 31, 2019 17:03
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bessantj posted:I admire people that can eat spicy food. I'm weak and brown sauce is approaching the upper level of my spice tolerance range. Brown sauce is the after effect of eating overly spicy food.
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May 31, 2019 17:04
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bessantj posted:Is yougov generally considered unreliable? Literally owned by Tories, coincidentally have a poll ready to go to help support whatever narrative Tories are pushing that week.
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May 31, 2019 17:05
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sebzilla posted:Mustard mash Mashed potato in gravy is good. Mashed potato in gravy with grainy mustard mixed in is better.
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Aramoro posted:Go gently caress yourself. they're really great, I got a big pack from this random corner store in Bow and have found a pinch goes well in a lot of stuff e: I also eat a lot of sambal chili though so perhaps I am not a good frame of reference re: spiciness. But mash potato is the elemental form of being spiceless and it needs some bite to it, I feel ronya fucked around with this message at 17:11 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 17:07
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Literally owned by Tories, coincidentally have a poll ready to go to help support whatever narrative Tories are pushing that week. I knew they were started by tories but that doesn't mean they can't be reliable. I don't know anywhere near enough about their historic results or the way they collect and process their data which is why I asked. it's disappointing that they're not called out more in the media.
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May 31, 2019 17:14
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Genuiely just going to give up on politics until a GE is announced or we've left the EU. The relentlessly negative groundhog day situtation we have at the moment is killing my mental health. And I know its a semi deliberate ploy by the media to snuff out support for left leaning labour but I'm just exhausted.
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May 31, 2019 17:17
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Constantly reading about politics outside of actual votes isn't particularly helpful, your health comes first.
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May 31, 2019 17:19
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Why the heck does Aldi only sell chili powder in those tiny little spice jars
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Regarde Aduck posted:A portion of the thread have become a brexit death cult where they think it's bad but it must be appeased lest it devour the universe. Or something. And yeah they think destroying Labour's chances is worth it. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that people who want Labour to change Brexit policy should show their working in terms of how it makes stopping Brexit more likely. There's an automatic underlying assumption that if a) Labour goes all in for a second referendum, b) Labour's polling will improve, c) a second referendum will actually happen, d) remain/revoke will be on the ballot, and e) remain/revoke has a decent chance of winning. All of those points come with a big old [citation needed] but I've never seen anybody actually providing them. I could just as easily argue that if a) Labour goes all in for a second referendum, b) their polling in key target constituencies will collapse, c) the incoming hard Brexiteer Tory leader will call a GE, d) the Tories will gain a majority, and e) we leave with no deal. For what it's worth, I think that although it's incredibly shaky ground to draw firm conclusions from EU elections with a 37% turnout, the results do indicate that opinions are shifting and the time might be right for Labour go all in. But I'm not totally convinced, and that doesn't shift one bit when the latest underpants gnome comes along to complain about Corbyn's Brexit stance while having nothing but ??? to explain why he should change.
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May 31, 2019 17:20
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Dead Goon posted:Do you want black flecks turning up in your white mash? Personally I'm a big fan of mash based miscegenation.And yes a nice whack of Dijon too
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May 31, 2019 17:21
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baka kaba posted:Why the heck does Aldi only sell chili powder in those tiny little spice jars Go to Costco, theyll sell you about a pint of it
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May 31, 2019 17:22
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baka kaba posted:Why the heck does Aldi only sell chili powder in those tiny little spice jars try a south asian store, they have the best variety of dried spices
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May 31, 2019 17:22
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ronya posted:try a south asian store, they have the best variety of dried spices But be aware when they say chili powder they actually mean that. Not the Mexican kind. ASK me about the nuclear enchiladas I made before I discovered this.
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May 31, 2019 17:25
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Next time you make mash try mixing an egg into it
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May 31, 2019 17:26
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feedmegin posted:But be aware when they say chili powder they actually mean that. Not the Mexican kind. don't hesitate to ask just how hot the chili is, there's tons of niche chilis and it's impossible to keep them all straight. but the big unspecified-variety packs meant for home cooking are probably a good bet for "spicy but not so hot that you can't taste anything else". about lower-end-habanero-hot in Mexican terms e: also, flakes are better for just seasoning. For one, mouthfeel. For another, if a particular mouthful is just too bland you can start biting into the seeds to liven it up a little. That way one doesn't risk overwhelming all the other flavours. ronya fucked around with this message at 17:47 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 17:30
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Oh yeah, I know it's not the place to buy that stuff, I was just in there and running low and all they have is these tiny jars that you're meant to sprinkle with your pinky sticking out or something? Like 4 meals' worth They sell sriracha though so it's not all bad......
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May 31, 2019 17:35
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feedmegin posted:Personally I'm a big fan of mash based miscegenation.And yes a nice whack of Dijon too I had to Google. Thanks for the new word.
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May 31, 2019 17:39
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lol I had a phone call about midday organising a phone interview on monday afternoon except I don't know who the company is and she never sent me the confirmation email like I requested. I don't know which job it is or which recruiting agency it was through so I sent a text asking since I don't know what else I can do and she called me on her mobile the job title she gave doesn't sound like any of the ones i've applied for either
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May 31, 2019 17:46
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baka kaba posted:Oh yeah, I know it's not the place to buy that stuff, I was just in there and running low and all they have is these tiny jars that you're meant to sprinkle with your pinky sticking out or something? Like 4 meals' worth aren't all spice racks like that? for the cook who will probably only need chili flakes for that one experimental dish per year
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May 31, 2019 17:51
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Scikar posted:I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that people who want Labour to change Brexit policy should show their working in terms of how it makes stopping Brexit more likely. There's an automatic underlying assumption that if a) Labour goes all in for a second referendum, b) Labour's polling will improve, c) a second referendum will actually happen, d) remain/revoke will be on the ballot, and e) remain/revoke has a decent chance of winning. I don't think Labour can do much about Brexit - the Tories are unlikely to call a GE while their numbers are in the pits, and even if they go iron-hard Brexiteer and eat the BXP, the likely party leaders are probably going to be unwilling to repeat Theresa May's mistake, since they're already locked in for another two years - and even if they do, presenting yourself as the moderate compromise candidate against extremists has a very unreliable track record. Something as patently insane as NDB can't and shouldn't be triangulated into, especially since the compromise position of soft Brexit is so obviously a universal downgrade from the status quo. Soft Brexit died with Theresa May's deal - all of the criticisms used to sink that can and will equally be applied to any Labour deal, maybe even harder. Functionally, a 2019/2020 snap election will be a second referendum by proxy, and in FPTP, that means you don't split the vote. Going hard Remain means that Labour can fight its biggest rivals in the left and centre-left, the Lib Dems and Greens, on its favourite territory, domestic policy. It can point out the total intellectual void of the Dems again, and present itself as the Greens (Remainer socialists) but electable. If it's really lucky, a strong anti-austerity message might even pull away some SNP seats, although that's a longer shot. It also lets it focus on promoting domestic solutions to problems that the Conservatives blame on the EU, and gives it free reign to poke the privileged little shits heading the Conservatives who claim they speak for the working class. In other words, it's a second referendum where socialists get to entirely control the Remain narrative if they so choose, complete with media regulations that ensure their voices are heard. If you ask me, that's powerfully seductive. If we don't get a GE before Boris or some other psycho pushes us into a NDB, though, then a Labour Government is also essential, and your attitude to Brexit will become as much of a litmus test on the left as your attitude to the Iraq War once was (if not more, because far more voters will be personally affected). The Labour left going hard Remain and truthfully saying they did everything they could to stop the catastrophe the country ended up stuck in is really the only way they'll survive and have a chance in the next election - assuming that we have a next election. Being on the losing side and failing to stop something incredibly evil and stupid can still pay off long-term if you were in the right in hindsight, as Jeremy Corbyn's entire career attests. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 17:54 on May 31, 2019 |
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Dead Goon posted:I had to Google. Swiped left.
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ronya posted:aren't all spice racks like that? for the cook who will probably only need chili flakes for that one experimental dish per year It's a basic ingredient! I mean they can sell it but at least have some big containers of the stuff. It's like expecting people to only buy salt in little shakers I dunno, it's just weird. They sell a whole lot of stuff now but they have these really weird gaps in their stock. Also their garlic cloves are too small yes it's an aldi rant I've finally HAD ENOUGH
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May 31, 2019 17:56
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not maintaining a full inventory is one of those Aldi cost-cutting business practices, I'm given to understand. Either it's stuff that customers will probably buy in bulk infrequently already, and hence probably not at Aldi (hence: salt), or where supply/demand is too random, so they will stock whatever they have and if you went there looking for finely crushed basil leaves and they only have the whole fresh basil, well, it's willing to gamble that you'll still come back for the 90% of the stuff they did have - the intuition is scrimping by minimizing the time shelves spend being a warehouse
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May 31, 2019 18:08
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JoylessJester posted:Genuiely just going to give up on politics until a GE is announced or we've left the EU. The relentlessly negative groundhog day situtation we have at the moment is killing my mental health. And I know its a semi deliberate ploy by the media to snuff out support for left leaning labour but I'm just exhausted. I'm hoping that when a GE is announced that Labour make another big push-back, people do tend to forget when the news cycle dies down but it's going to be an upward battle. Brexit really has divided this lovely island and if there's a tenth level of Hell out there, I hope it's reserved for the pigfucker Cameron.
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May 31, 2019 18:12
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Scikar posted:I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that people who want Labour to change Brexit policy should show their working in terms of how it makes stopping Brexit more likely. There's an automatic underlying assumption that if a) Labour goes all in for a second referendum, b) Labour's polling will improve, c) a second referendum will actually happen, d) remain/revoke will be on the ballot, and e) remain/revoke has a decent chance of winning. It's looking increasingly likely that a new PM will call a GE to get backing for No Deal. If you don't think Labour should go into that election backing a second referendum in all circumstances, what do you think the policy should be?
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Scikar posted:I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that people who want Labour to change Brexit policy should show their working in terms of how it makes stopping Brexit more likely. There's an automatic underlying assumption that if a) Labour goes all in for a second referendum, b) Labour's polling will improve, c) a second referendum will actually happen, d) remain/revoke will be on the ballot, and e) remain/revoke has a decent chance of winning. Basically what Darth Walrus said, but: b) Labours vote is indisputably getting squeezed from both sides, but 1) there are a lot more remain voters to lose and 2) it looks like the leave votes have already been lost. Changing Brexit policy/making it more explicit (and I don't actually think Labour needs to go full FBPE) will at least win back some lib defectors or at least halt/slow the slide. c) through e) I don't think anyone on Labour's side needs to believe a second referendum will happen. But having seen as having fought for one will only be good for Labour once Brexit does happen.
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OzyMandrill posted:Coming back from camping holiday, had BBC news on, they spent the first 15 minutes on the Willsman antisemetism thing. 15 minutes, with multiple references to how it was terrible and labour weren't doing it right, with a very brief mention at the end saying 'well, legally they have to suspend and investigate they can't kick him out, but it's still terrible they aren't kicking him out immediately'. I stopped watching BBC news altogether quite a while ago and I don't feel that I've lost anything by doing so. On Brexit: if Labour want to continue to aspire to being a national party, they have to keep trying to find a compromise that's acceptable to both Leavers and Remainers. You can't get a majority by picking 1 side, then competing with other parties for that particular 50% of the votes. If a compromise is genuinely impossible (and I increasingly feel that's the case), then... I don't know what's going to happen but probably a default no-deal Brexit. Happy days!
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