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PT6A posted:If that's what an explorer costs now, people can officially and forever stop whining about the fact there exists a $50k Golf. The Platinum starts at 58K, the ST starts at almost 55K. Options get both over 60K. edit. 63K Explorer ST https://shop.ford.com/inventory/exp...bp&Dealer=04546 skipdogg fucked around with this message at 22:17 on May 30, 2019 |
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even the base model exploder is up to $37k us, and all that gets you is the same driveline as the $27k mustang. It's just a mustang wagon 
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May 30, 2019 20:33
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The interior of infinitis are laughably behind the competition I still love the big as gently caress qx80 and rent it whenever I can (it’s usually reserved  )
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May 30, 2019 20:35
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euphronius posted:The interior of infinitis are laughably behind the competition Is that the beluga whale one Edit It is the beluga whale one goddamn is that thing ugly as gently caress, much less than it used to be but, like, goddamn.
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May 30, 2019 20:37
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KakerMix posted:Is that the beluga whale one Yeah the Infiniti Armada
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May 30, 2019 20:38
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euphronius posted:Yeah the Infiniti Armada I see these things all over the place. a few years ago there was massive amounts of cash on the hood in my area on them. 15+ thousand or more if I recall. Armadas too. I have a feeling a bunch of people traded in their negative equity SUV's and rolled into a new giant loan for those. Who the hell is paying 65 to 80K for these things?
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May 30, 2019 20:52
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Powershift posted:even the base model exploder is up to $37k us, and all that gets you is the same driveline as the $27k mustang. Did they scrap the base model trim? A lot of websites had it listed for $33k, but the website only has the $37k XLT as the base model.
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May 30, 2019 20:56
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Powershift posted:even the base model exploder is up to $37k us, and all that gets you is the same driveline as the $27k mustang. You bring up a good point. Explorer, slammed with the GT500 mill and a 10 speed when?
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May 30, 2019 20:57
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Charles posted:Did they scrap the base model trim? A lot of websites had it listed for $33k, but the website only has the $37k XLT as the base model. base models are fleet only now. Q_res posted:You bring up a good point. I think you mean a turboed 7.3 big block.
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May 30, 2019 21:05
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Q_res posted:You bring up a good point. Probably pretty soon. The 10 speed is already there. I expect Hennessey or someone to build a crazy version upgrading the 3.0L TT. Not sure about swapping plants.
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May 30, 2019 21:10
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I would imagine the first tuner to get one is gonna try sticking a 5.0 in it. The 7.3 should be physically much smaller.
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May 30, 2019 21:20
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skipdogg posted:I see these things all over the place. a few years ago there was massive amounts of cash on the hood in my area on them. 15+ thousand or more if I recall. Armadas too. I have a feeling a bunch of people traded in their negative equity SUV's and rolled into a new giant loan for those. Who the hell is paying 65 to 80K for these things? They're all around where I live too. I'm guessing it's people that don't like Tahoes/Yukons/Escalades. I had an Armada as a rental and it's actually not bad but the fuel mileage is laughably bad compared to a Tahoe. Like averaging 12 mpg bad. At least in a Tahoe you'll get 19.
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The new CT4-V and CT5-V got announced today....and hoo boy, are they disappointing. CT4-V : 2.7 Liter Inline 4 based off the Chevy Silverado engine, 320 HP/369 pounds of torque. CT5-V : 3.0 Liter V6 TT, 355 horsepower, 400 pounds of torque. Given that these are supposed to replace the ATS-V, that's just sad. GM continues to bury Cadillac.
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May 31, 2019 00:39
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Those are not V numbers. V sport maybe
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May 31, 2019 02:10
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I guess Cadillac is still pretending they don't have access to one of the best v8 engine families on the market because they want to copy the german companies. Isn't the CT5 supposed to take the segment that the old CTS filled?
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May 31, 2019 02:32
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TheWevel posted:They're all around where I live too. I'm guessing it's people that don't like Tahoes/Yukons/Escalades. The Armada is the value option in the large, BoF SUV market since the GMs have gotten $10K+ price hikes in the last decade. If I'm reading the news right, the CT5-V is more like an M-Sport/AMG-Line package since the engine is the same as the upgraded engine in the normal CT5. And the proper V cars are still to come. Oh GM.
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skipdogg posted:Those are not V numbers. V sport maybe Yeah, I know that GM isn't doing Cadillac a ton of favors, but there's just no way in hell they take that kind of backwards step with the actual V cars.
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May 31, 2019 04:00
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When are they putting that big stupid turbo 4 in the goddamn Colorado gently caress
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I don’t get it. The CT5-V is supposed to be their “AMG lite/M Performance/ S car” line but it’s the size of the Audi A7 and only puts out the power of the base model. The S7 puts out 450 HP and 453 lb-ft of torque. The RS7 is still to come it it’ll be putting out north of 500 HP. The BMW M550i just got a revised V8 that puts out 550 HP.
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The one article I read said Caddy is "softening" the V Line to try and make it more accessible, but quite frankly, the CT-5V hardly would even compete with the likes of an M340i or an S5, let alone something like an M3. If it's a lot more price competitive, it could make sense, but the pictures I've seen of the interior have been underwhelming to say the least...and it also has a terrible amount of trunk space compared to the competition. The CT4-V probably would hang with something like the CLA35 AMG or whatever it is, but that isn't exactly a high bar to clear. It did hint that GM may release a more "hardcore" model in the style of the prior V series, within a year or two, but this just seems like a marketing nightmare that's only going to serve to dilute the brand in the meantime. How do you go from a 640 hp supercharged v8 and a 450 horsepower twin turbo v6 to...those. TeamIce fucked around with this message at 12:32 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 06:02
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Usually GM will make a car that's got a few redeeming features, then right as they're about to perfect it they'll axe it because  This time it's like a deflating balloon that's about to get to the pbtpbtpbt phase. At least when Lincoln realized that they couldn't compete against the German luxo-sport cars they focused on their strengths and went their own direction as to what a luxury car should be like. Both those new Cadillacs look like interim designs while they wait for a real product to miracle its way down the assembly line.
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May 31, 2019 06:23
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have they atleast stopped using parts bin interior pieces for 'luxury' cars
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May 31, 2019 14:03
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I was at the dealer earlier Since a couple of days ago, they can take orders for the Skyactiv X. The upgrade cost is <1000EUR, but that'll vary between countries. Deliveries are expected for october/november Kind of tempted, save me from myself 
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Toying with the idea of an Alfa Romeo Giuila Ti *opens Giuila owners internet forum* *backs away slowly*
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smooth jazz posted:Toying with the idea of an Alfa Romeo Giuila Ti get like, four warranties
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Lease one and buy a foldable scooter so you can get from the dealership service dept to the bus stop.
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Is the NA Giulia still a maintenance disaster too?TeamIce posted:The one article I read said Caddy is "softening" the V Line to try and make it more accessible, but quite frankly, the CT-5V hardly would even compete with the likes of an M340i or an S5, let alone something like an M3. If it's a lot more price competitive, it could make sense, but the pictures I've seen of the interior have been underwhelming to say the least...and it also has a terrible amount of trunk space compared to the competition. How much more diluted can Caddy get? I mean, I follow this stuff, and I'm still not who these cars are supposed to appeal to? Also, man they're ugly.
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May 31, 2019 16:39
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As I mentioned above I just rented a caddy and it was indeed parts bin.
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May 31, 2019 16:42
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Failson posted:Is the NA Giulia still a maintenance disaster too? What NA Giulia?
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skipdogg posted:I see these things all over the place. a few years ago there was massive amounts of cash on the hood in my area on them. 15+ thousand or more if I recall. Armadas too. I have a feeling a bunch of people traded in their negative equity SUV's and rolled into a new giant loan for those. Who the hell is paying 65 to 80K for these things? A press fleet one they sent me had a sticker of $91k.
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smooth jazz posted:Toying with the idea of an Alfa Romeo Giuila Ti Oh man that forum is gold. -car won’t accept gas - rust under trunk lid - car won’t unlock certain places Among other great threads JFC
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Failson posted:How much more diluted can Caddy get? I mean, I follow this stuff, and I'm still not who these cars are supposed to appeal to? Boomers that grew up with Cadillacs as grail cars, but haven't been so turned off by a previous GM experience that they bought a Lexus ES instead.
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May 31, 2019 17:27
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skipdogg posted:Oh man that forum is gold. - shoulda got an Accord
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Applebees Appetizer posted:- shoulda got an Accord You joke but I’m real tempted to get a new touring with the 2.0t motor for my wife as her next car. Apparently they’re pretty fun sleepers with just a tune.
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May 31, 2019 18:04
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skipdogg posted:Oh man that forum is gold. The Julia/Stelvio was designed in-house over at Ferrari with a Magneti Marelli electrical system. You wonder why Marchionne was so eager to break out Ferrari and unload Magneti Marelli ASAP once Chrysler and Mopar were fully acquired.
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Huge_Midget posted:You joke but I’m real tempted to get a new touring with the 2.0t motor for my wife as her next car. Apparently they’re pretty fun sleepers with just a tune. Not a joke, i would much rather have a dependable Accord and pocket the rest of the money. The Alpha is like a crazy stripper, you would LOVE to but if you're smart you don't stick your dick in crazy.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Not a joke, i would much rather have a dependable Accord and pocket the rest of the money. Now now, sex workers and erotic dancers perform valuable services to society and should not be used as derogatory examples 
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Not a joke, i would much rather have a dependable Accord and pocket the rest of the money. Why not a Camry XSE V6? Seems like the better long term buy than the Accord. But you do give up cooled seats. The best car imo would be new Lexus IS upgraded to keep up with the BMW and Audi offerings with a twin turbo V6 option from the LS500.
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The only way I'd own a Gulia qv is if I was wealthy and just really loved the car. It'd be a short term low mileage lease as well. No way it would be a primary or probably secondary car. Just something fun to drive for a couple years and then give it back to them. Wonder if they cover the lease payment for the months it'll be in the shop.
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