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MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

V. Illych L. posted:

lol poor ibriz must be the biggest shithole to live in

first a massive war, then a massive civil war, then they're suddenly the narrow corridor where the great powers are fighting and will presumably take no political consequence from atrocities in the region which they can just blame on the ibrizi anyway

Maybe once the dust settles we can start a program to settle them in al-Andalus assuming the New Englanders haven't slaughtered them all. We could probably use the population.

Plus we can spin it as decolonization.

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RubricMarine
Feb 14, 2012

Xelkelvos posted:

Meanwhile, Waono just watches from their sideline without conflict. Are they even a developed country relative to their neighbors or essentially a poor backwater that no once cares all that much about?

As of the end of V2 they were a tiny still essentially feudal backwater, with no reforms or industry, I believe.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
C

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

RubricMarine posted:

As of the end of V2 they were a tiny still essentially feudal backwater, with no reforms or industry, I believe.

And none of the powers in the area (well the two/three adjacent ones) thought it'd be worth it to just try and grab/acquire/annex it from under the noses of the others? Wow.

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010

Xelkelvos posted:

Meanwhile, Waono just watches from their sideline without conflict. Are they even a developed country relative to their neighbors or essentially a poor backwater that no once cares all that much about?

Until the Waono Whale rises!

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

habeasdorkus posted:

What's our manpower at?

Almost a million, and I've got more divisions training constantly

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Hashim posted:

Almost a million, and I've got more divisions training constantly

at what level of conscription?

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Hashim posted:

Almost a million, and I've got more divisions training constantly

Muahahaha. We will bleed the Fascists and Monarchists to full exsanguination!

Luhood
Nov 13, 2012
I want to say C, but at the same time an Al-Andalus that isn't creeping along desperately trying to survive just feels... wrong!

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
I wonder what life is like in Bohemia or the Latin Empire. Or any other independent state surrounded on all sides by Francia.

Must be a very nervous environment.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!

GSD posted:

I wonder what life is like in Bohemia or the Latin Empire. Or any other independent state surrounded on all sides by Francia.

Must be a very nervous environment.

Probably not unlike the Netherlands in WW1, but without a number of shipping companies making mad, enormous bank.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


C!

RubricMarine posted:

As of the end of V2 they were a tiny still essentially feudal backwater, with no reforms or industry, I believe.
That's what they want you to think. :tinfoil:

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

Come on, Ireland, if you want to make a move now's the daggone time. Help us liberate the Isles before we have to burn them.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Grammarchist posted:

Come on, Ireland, if you want to make a move now's the daggone time. Help us liberate the Isles before we have to burn them.

oh yeah actually now would be a good time for the Celts to start doing things

perhaps, for once, they can benefit from being our ally

e.
oh and C

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Yvonmukluk posted:

C!

That's what they want you to think. :tinfoil:

Waono is the Wakanda of this timeline.

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Waono is the Wakanda of this timeline.

Keep this nugget for Stellaris

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat
C

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

A obviously. History has shown that other socialist giants simply don't last. We need to be a firm, obvious Vanguard, capable of guiding revolutionary advances.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Xelkelvos posted:

And none of the powers in the area (well the two/three adjacent ones) thought it'd be worth it to just try and grab/acquire/annex it from under the noses of the others? Wow.

Well, France took the PNW off them ages ago, so they're not entirely safe, but they have been more or less ignored for ages now.

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Waono is the Wakanda of this timeline.

Now that'd be a twist.

everydayfalls
Aug 23, 2016
C because other large states will never cause us problems

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Pacho posted:

Keep this nugget for Stellaris

Are we sure there aren't very old Out-of-Place artifacts in Waono that might suggest something extraterrestrial?

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!
:siren:Vote over.:siren: C won pretty handily, so we'll welcome the People's Federation of the Mashriq in the next update.

A - 13 - Frionnel, RabidWeasel, QuoProQuid, Talas, Flavius Aetass, Lord Cyrahzax, GSD, Moon Slayer, Soup du Jour, Technowolf, willing to settle, Ikasuhito, Rody One Half.

B - 4 - Pakled, Slaan, Xelkelvos, Snipee.

C - 40 - Mirdini, Freudian, Jack2142, crimea, ZearothK, Kangxi, ThatBasqueGuy, Crazycryodude, tatankatonk, Zikan, Super Jay Mann, MaxieSatan, Grammarchist, Ibblebibble, Cerebral Bore, 420 Gank Mid, CommissarMega, Erwin the German, HiHo ChiRho, Eleven Eleven, puppets freak me out, habeasdorkus, devildragon777, iLurk, tildes, skipThings, Vinny Possum, NewMars, aqu, Polgas, Pacho, Kayten, Lynneth, frankenfreak, Luhood, Yvonmukluk, V. Illych L., mcclay, everydayfalls.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

Grammarchist posted:

Come on, Ireland, if you want to make a move now's the daggone time. Help us liberate the Isles before we have to burn them.

They actually launched an invasion into Scotland, though it turned out to be more of a suicide mission that got most of their divisions wiped out. That's partly why we landed in Britain with such ease, since most of the Frankish divisions were still north.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

V. Illych L. posted:

at what level of conscription?

Service by requirement.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

If the continent is anything beyond than a desolate wasteland inhabited solely by those too young or too old to pick up a gun by the end of this, that will simply be proof that we didn't try hard enough.

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.
There's no such thing as too young or too old to pick up a gun. Onwards soldiers!

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

we’re all going to become despised war criminals after the supreme leader decides to nuke paris and london out of spite

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jun 1, 2019

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

QuoProQuid posted:

we’re all going to become despised war criminals heroes of the revolution after the supreme leader decides to nuke paris and london out of spite

FTFY.

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
If you don't tell me defeating the French and saving Europe isn't enough, I don't know what else to say. This is what has always set us apart. A thousand years of sacrifice and bloodshed in our veins. And every generation must know its own suffering. I spit on the people who started this war. I curse the price we all must pay. But I have made my peace with God. And now you will make yours. Go forth comrades, and paradise shall be on the other side.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

Kangxi posted:

If you don't tell me defeating the French and saving Europe isn't enough, I don't know what else to say. This is what has always set us apart. A thousand years of sacrifice and bloodshed in our veins. And every generation must know its own suffering. I spit on the people who started this war. I curse the price we all must pay. But I have made my peace with God. And now you will make yours. Go forth comrades, and paradise shall be on the other side.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iutuQbMAx04

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


QuoProQuid posted:

we’re all going to become despised war criminals after the supreme leader decides to nuke paris and london out of spite

Paris and London are in the bag, it is Tokyo and New York and Berber-Rio we should be thinking of nuking.

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010
I’m fairly confident that Francia is doomed. I’m less confident that we will rout the Russians quickly enough to go on to defeat the more distant great powers using conventional military forces before nukes start falling.

Also, why is it that we have had events for turning African/Middle Eastern territories into puppets but not our Italian provinces?

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

Snipee posted:

Also, why is it that we have had events for turning African/Middle Eastern territories into puppets but not our Italian provinces?

Sorry, I believe you mean "our rightful territory in Eastern Andalusia"

Polgas
Sep 2, 2018


With one hand he saves gebs. With the other he commits goblin genocide. A true neutral.

If things go well enough this lp might recreate another Mediterranean based communist bloc.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

Snipee posted:

Also, why is it that we have had events for turning African/Middle Eastern territories into puppets but not our Italian provinces?

Only decided to start doing it with Morocco, but I'll probably put Italy up to vote with the Frankish one (if that happens). And yeah, there'll be an option to straight-up annex South Italy/Sicily.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

ZearothK posted:

Paris and London are in the bag, it is Tokyo and New York and Berber-Rio we should be thinking of nuking.

I honestly think the war's gonna peter out before it comes to us deploying forces to Asia or the Western Hemisphere. Idk if Ibriz is gonna hold out before we can shift focus to them and our navy is pretty much outclassed. With Asia, I don't think we even have any allies there to help out at this point. The most we might consider is purging the Alvamorids once and for all by trying to head to Ustralyia

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Yeah at the end of the day, ideological bluster aside, we don't care about the America's and vice versa. Absolutely none of the Western powers except Morocco cared about Asia from the get go and, again, vice versa. Our cares stop at the Urals really.

Captain Mediocre
Oct 14, 2005

Saving lives and money!

Isn't it vital to hold on to the conquered land yourself in HOI4 for the production of war materiel?

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Xelkelvos posted:

I honestly think the war's gonna peter out before it comes to us deploying forces to Asia or the Western Hemisphere. Idk if Ibriz is gonna hold out before we can shift focus to them and our navy is pretty much outclassed.

A reminder that Ibriz is gone, surrendered. So if we want to take this war across the sea we will have to do so from scratch. Also we would effectively be fighting against two entire continents.

I think we will just have to cut our losses there.

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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
If another communist or socialist state springs up after we finish with France and Russia, we might be obliged top help thembit at this point, we're done after we're secure our part of the world.

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